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Encounter at Farpoint!!!

Blinkn

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 12:55 pm

Let me start by saying that TNG the later years was a work of art, I loved it, but the first 2 and half years was... God awful at times.

The representation of Q's powers was ¿:sick: freezing and flashes of light.

Crosby overacted Yar making her seem loud and excessive, like in that courtroom scene when she attempts to defend the Federation.

Troi's tears and staged girlishness with the dress seemed like sad throw backs to the 60's female characters. So easily overcome, unable to control her response to her empathic senses. I'd almost call it insulting.

No Chief Engineer, you have a bunch of low ranked bridge crew but no Chief Engineer. Worf skulking around the bridge with no specific duty ready to shoot the view-screen like a fool.

The blind pilot, how cute, who got sent on away missions when no other helmsmen after him got sent on away missions and was sent handle issues in Engineering.

Picard seemed gruff to an extreme, distant and discourteous without redemption until Measure of a Man.

The Star Jellies were well... :eyesroll:

I know they were just starting out, things to be ironed out and all that but non of the other series had issues like this, so many things that seemed over looked or half done.

And as a whole DS9 did more to develop Worf and what it was to be a Klingon than TNG ever did. :honorable:

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 2:12 pm

Agree for the most part, the series got off to a rocky start for me too. I even stopped watching every episode after the first couple episodes premiered. All that Wesley tinkerbell music!! I didn't really get back into it until "Best of Both Worlds".

I thought TNG did just fine in developing Worf's character though. Otherwise, he wouldn't have been such a welcome addition to DS9.

_Lucifer_

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 2:23 pm

Troi's job of stating the obvious and being intergalactic eye candy was annoying to the extreme.

OMG the frizzy hair! KILL IT!!! :whatthe: :laugh: :p

DarthJester

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 2:35 pm

2 AND A HALF seasons of poop??? No way dude, gotta love season 3's beginning, 'Evolution', 'Who Watched The Watchers'... etc.

On the other hand, in my mind, season 5 onwards the show started to loose it's greatness...

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 2:38 pm

Quote (_Lucifer_ @ June 22 2010, 2:23 pm)
Troi's job of stating the obvious and being intergalactic eye candy was annoying to the extreme.

OMG the frizzy hair! KILL IT!!! :whatthe: :laugh: :p


:laugh:

*After Enterprise gets fired on*

"Captain, I sense anger and hostility"



Duh..

quantumstring12

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 3:07 pm

Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ June 22 2010, 11:38 am)
Quote (_Lucifer_ @ June 22 2010, 2:23 pm)
Troi's job of stating the obvious and being intergalactic eye candy was annoying to the extreme.

OMG the frizzy hair! KILL IT!!! :whatthe: :laugh: :p


:laugh:

*After Enterprise gets fired on*

"Captain, I sense anger and hostility"



Duh..

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

_Lucifer_

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 3:13 pm

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 5:17 pm

That episode was alright. And then after that... it was just painful; if you could take poison by just looking at; then seasons 1 and 2 of TNG did just that. I just feel sorry for the actors; I could see them struggling through poor scripts and poor stories; painful man. Mind you there were some good episodes: Datalore, Conspiracy, The Measure of a Man; they were good.

Blinkn

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 8:30 pm

Yeah, Measure of a Man is one of my TNG favorites!

Vger23

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 9:00 pm

I loved "Encounter at Farpoint."

StarCSR

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 4:26 am

Funny to read this....
Just yesterday I started my big rewatch of all Trek (except for TOS and ENT) with this episode (duh). And I share most of your thoughts. The acting, plot and effects were hilarious (although it WAS 1987)... And after that I watched the beginning of "The naked now" and I laughed out loud. But knowing it'll get better and better will keep me in front of my TV :)

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 4:51 pm

Quote (StarCSR @ June 23 2010, 9:26 am)
Funny to read this....
Just yesterday I started my big rewatch of all Trek (except for TOS and ENT) with this episode (duh). And I share most of your thoughts. The acting, plot and effects were hilarious (although it WAS 1987)... And after that I watched the beginning of "The naked now" and I laughed out loud. But knowing it'll get better and better will keep me in front of my TV :)

It only get's better from season 3 onwards. Season 2 is notably less painful... not better, less painful... hey! Maybe that is an improvement!

GulBahana

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 8:10 pm

Don't forget, "Q Who?" was in the 2nd season.. That is one of my favorites. The 2nd season also contains the worst season finale of all time. After the 3rd season, the writing was much better, and more consistent.

HaventGotALife

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 8:19 pm

"Q" (ELIZABETHAN)
Knowing humans as you do, Captain,
would you want to be captured
helpless by them?
(moves closer)
Now, go back or you will certainly
die!
"Q" (ELIZABETHAN)
Your little centuries go by so
rapidly, Captain. Perhaps you'll
understand this better.

"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
Actually, the issue at stake is
patriotism. You must return to
your world and put an end to the
communists. All it takes is a
few good men.

PICARD
What? That nonsense is centuries
behind us!
"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
But you can't deny Captain, that
you're still a dangerous, savage
child-race.

PICARD
Most certainly I deny it. I agree
that we still were when ...
(indicating)
... humans wore costumes like that
four hundred years ago...

"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
At which time you slaughtered
millions in silly arguments about
how to divide the resources of
your little world. And four
hundred years before that you were
murdering each other in quarrels
over tribal god-images. And since
there have been no indications
that humans will ever change
.....

PICARD
But even as far back as... !
(indicates)
... that costume, we had begun to
make rapid progress.

"Q" (MARINE CAPTAIN)
Oh? Shall we review your "rapid
progress"?
Then later, on finally reaching
deep space, humans of course found
enemies to fight out there too.
And to broaden those struggles....
(indicating Worf and
Tasha)
.... you again found allies to
permit still more murdering and
the same old story all over again.

sonofspock1

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Report this Jun. 24 2010, 5:30 pm

To be fair, all it had to do was set up the show and the characters. It does an OK job of it, but it's probably the weakest of all the Trek pilots.

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