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1998 / 1999 The Golden Era on SciFi on TV

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 4:30 am

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I take it your not watching Spartacus then?

That show is more like; sword, sandal, sex, and slash!! ?I wouldn't mind the sex, but from what I've seen, the slash/gore is just too over the top for my delicate tastes. ? :rookie:

Yeah cutting off faces with a hook and using it as a mask isn't exactly family viewing.

O....M.....G!!    :sick:

Thanks for the heads up.  That is one program I shall not be viewing anytime soon.

My gradual desensitization towards violence, that is slowly but surely being forced upon me, has not reached that level quite yet.

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 4:35 am

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Well, apparently, Caprica's ratings haven't been that great.

And a space-based spinoff of Ron Moore's BSG is in the works...

I thought Caprica was the BSG spinoff. Are they really planning another? "Please sir, may I have another?" :D

Ha. Maybe I didn't make myself too clear there.

Caprica seems to be failing, both in the ratings and from negative buzz/word-of-mouth that semi-realistic planet-based drama just isn't as exciting as BSG's much-loved space-based suspense. In fact, Caprica is only halfway through its first season, and there have been no talks to secure a second season.

Sooo... Syfy is apparently in talks with Moore et al. to try to get another space-based spinoff of BSG moving toward production.

Of course, please take all of this with a grain of salt and note my use of the words "seems" and "apparently." Details are still sketchy at this point.

I would love to see another SF show helmed by Moore, but please not based on BSG.  I've had enough of that franchise.

I remember he tried one on NBC I think, called Relativity or something like that, but it did not get picked up.

I'm not sure I would like a ST series helmed by Moore, could be too dark for ST.

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 8:22 am

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I'm not sure I would like a ST series helmed by Moore, could be too dark for ST.

Surely, you must mean another Trek series helmed by Moore?

Because he was an executive producer - alongside Ira Steven Behr - on DS9.

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 9:58 am

Highlander which fell into the Fantasy section rather than as a Sci Fi. I really liked that series which ran in that time period :cool:

As for another BSG Series, I think Caprica has been okay I need to get caught up on episodes.

I'm hoping the next BSG series will be based around the first Cylon War. Giant Fleet Actions, brutal war stories but with the option to re-crew, repair and resupply for once  :laugh:

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 4:17 am

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Atlantis is a good sequel, but too much messing around with the cast

Indeed.  For example,



The first incarnation of Dr. Elizabeth Weir.  She looked way too much like Carter.

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 4:19 am

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But no monkeys in daggit suits and annoying children.

Wow, what have you been watching?

I've figured out the answer.   Penny, Will, and Bloop!

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 4:22 am

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I'm not sure I would like a ST series helmed by Moore, could be too dark for ST.

Surely, you must mean another Trek series helmed by Moore?

Because he was an executive producer - alongside Ira Steven Behr - on DS9.

No, I do not mean another.  He was an executive producer, not the executive producer.  He was frequently over-ruled.  By "helmed" I mean he would be in primary control like he was for BSG.

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 6:25 pm

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But no monkeys in daggit suits and annoying children.

Wow, what have you been watching?

I've figured out the answer. ¿ Penny, Will, and Bloop!

Oh you young'uns! :D This is the original Battlestar Galactica, for c.o.l.

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 7:18 pm

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Filed under the category: ¿You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

Back then you could kick back and watch new episodes of SPACE BASED science fiction almost any day of the week.

Star Trek DS9
Star Trek Voyager
Babylon 5
Farscape
Stargate SG1
Futurama

Now what have we got? ¿Stargate Universe. ¿ :cry:

There is a lot of SciFi today, but it is mostly earth based shows with little to none of boldly going to new planets. ¿Yes, Dr Who is sort of like that, but it is more about time travel and alternate dimensions.

I guess these things have a cycle to them (like the sword and sandal craze Hercules, Zena, etc. that has dried up, thankfully) and maybe the theme was just played out.

When oh when will the wheel turn back to space faring SciFi??? ¿ Thank goodness for DVDs.

New episodes of Futurama start this Thursday!

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Report this Jun. 25 2010, 12:02 am

Quote (Unregistered_Guest @ June 19 2010, 3:09 am)
Filed under the category: ¿You don't know what you've got till it's gone.

Back then you could kick back and watch new episodes of SPACE BASED science fiction almost any day of the week.

Star Trek DS9
Star Trek Voyager
Babylon 5
Farscape
Stargate SG1
Futurama

Now what have we got? ¿Stargate Universe. ¿ :cry:

There is a lot of SciFi today, but it is mostly earth based shows with little to none of boldly going to new planets. ¿Yes, Dr Who is sort of like that, but it is more about time travel and alternate dimensions.

I guess these things have a cycle to them (like the sword and sandal craze Hercules, Zena, etc. that has dried up, thankfully) and maybe the theme was just played out.

When oh when will the wheel turn back to space faring SciFi??? ¿ Thank goodness for DVDs.

Sci-fi is great stuff. Too bad in Indonesia, to the common viewer Star Trek is not appealing because it isn't high street fashion and it's not prestigious enough to gain recognition. People like to see sexy women and flashy cars instead. But here in Indonesia, there are some hardcore Star Trek fans joining under a community called Indo Star Trek.

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Report this Jun. 26 2010, 11:54 am

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Not to get all political but do you suppose the bad economy beginning around 2000/2001 played a part in the fall of that golden era? Less funding for good shows, less money that people have to give to the companies that make them.

It probably has something to do with taxes. For the most part SCI-FI is now made in Canada or abroad. For instance all the Star Gate stuff is not made in Hollywood because they tax the crap out of you.

I wouldn't pin it on any one Admin! But definitely the expectations from advertisers ratio/return on what's considered a "hit" show has driven down the quality of entertainment. And the economic environment doesn't help.

And it isn't logical: just when cable is proliferating the number of channels available, fragmenting the viewership, that's NOT the time to demand greater and greater numbers for a show to be considered a success.

So now we get cheaply-produced reality shows. And people watch what they get. And it's a downward spiral from there!

But Hollywood economics HAVE pushed an entire film- and TV-making industry into my home-state, Michigan! Tax incentives have new studios and film schools popping up everywhere. BUT...whether or not anything quality comes of it remains to be seen.

Sadly, I can think of a couple of CRAP productions that have been filmed in my home town the past few years...

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Report this Jun. 26 2010, 8:04 pm

Having a look around for Firefly might be a good thing for the TV off-season...Like me that Adam Baldwin on CHUCK, for sure. :)

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Report this Jun. 26 2010, 8:17 pm

As long as I get 14 episodes of that chap in the blue box a year, I'm happy. SGU could get cancelled in the morning, and I probaly wouldn't bat an eyelid.

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Report this Jun. 30 2010, 5:22 am

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Not to get all political but do you suppose the bad economy beginning around 2000/2001 played a part in the fall of that golden era? Less funding for good shows, less money that people have to give to the companies that make them.

It probably has something to do with taxes. For the most part SCI-FI is now made in Canada or abroad. For instance all the Star Gate stuff is not made in Hollywood because they tax the crap out of you.

Although tax breaks are undoubtedly part of the flight to Canada, Union rules are another big factor.

Listening to commentary on SG1 I learned for example, that a standard work day in Canada on a film production is twelve hours, they usually work 7am to 7 pm, but in the US it is ten hours, which means they lose one entire day per week of filming.

ST series have always been a Hollywood production, but I don't see any problem having the next one produced in Canada.  :idea:

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Report this Jun. 30 2010, 1:08 pm

Quote (Unregistered_Guest @ June 30 2010, 5:22 am)
Quote (Yanks @ June 26 2010, 4:20 am)
Quote (marshall8472 @ June 26 2010, 4:25 am)
Not to get all political but do you suppose the bad economy beginning around 2000/2001 played a part in the fall of that golden era? Less funding for good shows, less money that people have to give to the companies that make them.

It probably has something to do with taxes. For the most part SCI-FI is now made in Canada or abroad. For instance all the Star Gate stuff is not made in Hollywood because they tax the crap out of you.

Although tax breaks are undoubtedly part of the flight to Canada, Union rules are another big factor.

Listening to commentary on SG1 I learned for example, that a standard work day in Canada on a film production is twelve hours, they usually work 7am to 7 pm, but in the US it is ten hours, which means they lose one entire day per week of filming.

ST series have always been a Hollywood production, but I don't see any problem having the next one produced in Canada. ¿:idea:

Or Michigan! :D Huge tax breaks. We're practically Canada, anyway. We use the money, watch the TV...Young Michiganders are often confused as to their nationality. :laugh:

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