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"Family"

deepspaceniner999

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Report this Jun. 18 2010, 9:43 pm

This episode, the story about Picard's brother, really got to me. I loved it. It had very good points.

HaventGotALife

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Report this Jun. 18 2010, 10:03 pm

I trash this episode because I don't believe Patrick Stewart in this role at all. He's not in pain and the gates break. He's fine and then he cries. He either hides it too well or I don't see him breaking down. I don't like the fact they never used a close-up. I don't like the fact that his intensity with the boy never goes over the edge to show his emotions are leaking. I don't like the fact that he doesn't physically touch Robert when he finally cries. I've been in that much pain and tried to stop it. It leaks out. You think you are in complete control and then it just leaks out. It's not a realistic portrayl. Again, great concept. Poorly executed.

deepspaceniner999

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Report this Jun. 18 2010, 10:18 pm

REALLY? Fascinating, as Spock would say. I thought it was great. It showed just how much turmoil (emotionally) had built up in Picard and that he needed a release. Ah well, :) To each his own!

DarthJester

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Report this Jun. 19 2010, 8:05 am

Great Great Great episode, without it 'The Best of Both Worlds' "trilogy" (TBOBW 1&2 + Family) wouldn't be as great as it is. (or wouldn't exist at all) It's a good addition to the 2 episodes before it, they just don't continue from status quo after TBOBW. Perfect continuation after the 2-parter.

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Report this Jun. 19 2010, 11:43 pm

I didn't like it because the drama in the episode was extremely cliche. I didn't find it unrealistic, just predictable. Part of the excitement of entertainment is not knowing what is going to happen next. It's what keeps you watching, but it was kind of obvious from the beginning of the episode, the first time I saw it what was going to happen. Yes, he was saying he wanted to quit being a captain maybe, but did we really believe he wouldn't? No. From the beginning of the episode, you could tell he was upset, which meant that he was going to have a break down by the end. Him and his brother don't see eye to eye as if that hasn't been done in a million television shows and as if it didn't always have the ending of eventually they fight and start to appreciate each other again. I kept having to stop the episode and watch it only in ten minute intervals. It was so boring.

_Lucifer_

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Report this Jun. 20 2010, 11:40 pm

It sucked so bad, Braga and Moore killed off the Picard family in Star Trek: Generations :laugh:

DarthJester

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 1:07 pm

Quote (_Lucifer_ @ June 21 2010, 1:40 am)
It sucked so bad, Braga and Moore killed off the Picard family in Star Trek: Generations :laugh:

I skip that abortion of a movie :) (like all TNG movies) Never watch it :) The point of killing them? They died in a fire so that Soran would sound really sinister when he says to Picard: "Time is a fire in which we burn".

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Report this Jun. 21 2010, 5:00 pm

Quote (DarthJester @ June 20 2010, 6:07 pm)
Quote (_Lucifer_ @ June 21 2010, 1:40 am)
It sucked so bad, Braga and Moore killed off the Picard family in Star Trek: Generations :laugh:

I skip that abortion of a movie :) (like all TNG movies) Never watch it :) The point of killing them? They died in a fire so that Soran would sound really sinister when he says to Picard: "Time is a fire in which we burn".

I didn't like the way the deaths were used as a plot device, but Picard did need a reason to leave the Nexus.

btw, the quote isn't about his family burning in a fire, it's meant to symbolise Picards life, and how time is running out for him to have a family/kids.

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Report this Jun. 22 2010, 5:24 pm

Quote (_Lucifer_ @ June 21 2010, 4:40 am)
It sucked so bad, Braga and Moore killed off the Picard family in Star Trek: Generations :laugh:

'Family' is real little gem of an episode. Up to that point (in the series) it is one of the best Picard episodes; I dunno, I can't explain, the episode just worked; perhaps it was the set/location or maybe it was a great story.

StarCSR

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 4:47 am

Didn't like this one either when I first watched it. But I was 15 at the time and I only cared about the action I saw in the previous two episodes :)

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 23 2010, 4:53 pm

Quote (StarCSR @ June 23 2010, 9:47 am)
Didn't like this one either when I first watched it. But I was 15 at the time and I only cared about the action I saw in the previous two episodes :)

I was just like you; I prefered the episodes with action, explosions and such, when I was younger. It's good being older; makes you appreciate the 'duller' things; now I appreciate many more Star Trek episodes.

Kesfan74656

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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 5:18 pm

A good TNG ep, to be sure. It got into the core of Jean-Luc's suffering from his assimilation. One of the best moments in the series was he and Robert's mud fight in the vineyards..and, it's not Deanna he ultimately opens up to, but his estranged brother. ''You're going to have to live with this for a long time, Jean-Luc..but, you're going to have to decide where you want to live with down it here..or up there on the Enterprise''...I think this episode really 'humanized' Jean-Luc, brought him down to earth,  in a way not quite like perhaps others. It was moving to see Picard, this man of strength, and determination, which Admiral Hanson stressed to Will before Wolf, weep before Robert. Fine acting, as usual, from Patrick Stewart.If anyone resisted the Borg, it was he. I think for any new ST fan who hasn't seen First Contact, this would be a nice in-to perhaps along with BOBW. I liked the ending, and Jean-luc's line to Robert, and their embrace, where we see in his sibling's eyes the love he has always had, down inside, for him. I enjoy a good action piece as much as the next fan, but, the characters are what hold st in all its forms together, and bring a lot of my affection for all my heroes, and heroines, and move me to write new experinces for them. I also don't have quite the encyclopedic knowledge many fans have, particularly after not seeing so many TNGs for so long, but, this is one episode which has always stuck out in my mind. Oh, and we also got to see a softer side of Worf, too, in this, and in his sit-down with his adopted parents in his quarters, it's readily apparent in his gentled tones, and the smile on his face, despite his initial unease, how much he loves them. I really liked that. 


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

2takesfrakes

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Report this Sep. 07 2010, 6:00 pm

HaventGotALife's got a point, there but ...


"Family" makes it very clear that Picard's been dealing
with his trauma through Troi, already. And that he's going
home to "rediscover" himself. In fact, there is dialogue to
this effect, in the very beginning. Yes, Picard could've wept
bitterly and sought more emotional support than what we see him
doing on earth, but then the mud-fight with his crotchety, old
brother and the trite sentiments from the same, would've fell flat.


It wasn't about resolving trauma, it was about forgiveness.
When you forgive an injustice, it doesn't make what wrong was done right,
again. It just means that you're letting it go, that you're moving past it,
moving on. That's what I got from family. And I liked the casting in
"Family," also. Some fine acting, all around.


Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 08 2010, 6:24 am

This is my 3rd favorite tng episode. They just defeated the borg and it allowed the crew to reconnect with their roots and showed how being assimilated deeply affected picard (showed how good stewart is). His conversation with robert made first contact and his conversation with lily even better.

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