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Arizona law is bad

> id="QUOTE">all wealth has certain distribution levels and many prefer to have it flow in a certain direction.

chr3335

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 4:51 pm

Have you read the Arizona law?  Do you even know what is says?  Why are you racist assuming that all illegals are Mexican?

chr3335

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 4:56 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 5:53 pm)
i don't need to read the law to know its racist. it has profiling and other stuff.

Except the law strictly forbids profiling.  In other words you don't have a clue what you are talking about and just mindlessly spouting off talking points over something you were told to disagree with.

Congrats you have made yourself look stupid.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:12 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:53 pm)
i don't need to read the law to know its racist. it has profiling and other stuff.

Obviously you never read the law...it is "basically" a copy and paste of the current Federal law on immigration...it just gives the local law enforcement the "exact" same rights to enforce the immigration laws that "ALREADY" are in place at the Federal level.

Read it...even for those who are slow readers could read it all in about 30 minutes or less.

This law (along with the Federal Law) just gives the state and local law enforcement the rights to verify identification and the authority to take into custody those who are in violation of the immigration law (i.e. no green card, ID, etc).

These laws as well as the federal law are both based off of the right that every law enforcement officer has had for many decades¿to ask for identification even if there is no infraction. A law enforcement officer can ask for ID from anyone at anytime and you better produce it. You don't have to be involved in anything wrong for them to ask for ID¿

I have done many ride-a-longs with law enforcement and they can just go up to anyone even if they are not doing anything wrong and ask for their ID. It has been this way for as long as I can remember.

So this law is not "adding" anything new that hasn't already been part of the way law enforcement anyways...with the exception that now AZ local law officers can now detain those that are illegally here. How is that racist?

Is it because since the predominate race of illegal aliens in AZ are Mexican it is all of a sudden racist? But if it there were an equal number of other nationalities then it would no longer be racist to arrest illegal aliens? What does the Mexican government do to those who are illegally in their country? Do they just ignore them? Nope! They are imprisoned¿but it is racist if we do this...so is it racist for them to do the same?

Listening to the media and not finding out the facts yourself is a dangerous place to be. Yeah go and follow the lemming in front of you¿see where it takes you. There is nothing racist about the AZ law¿I dare you to read it and site where it is racist.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:14 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:00 pm)
that is rude. everyone can have an opinion and this law will hurt the economy for some people.

Except you condemn it when you don't even fully understand it.  How can you make a correct and factual judgment when you haven't learned anything about the subject you are making a judgment on.

I will be rude when people base their opinion on incorrect/inaccurate information.

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this law will hurt the economy for some people.
 Yup people that are not suppose to be here.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:16 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 2:00 pm)
that is rude. everyone can have an opinion and this law will hurt the economy for some people.

How is that rude? You set yourself up by first making the acusation that this law is racist and not reading it. Why is it now a lot of states are now behind the AZ law and wanting to make their own if it is so racist?

You did make yourself look, well pretty much "not smart"...if we disagree with the AZ law then we disagree with the Federal Law on this...I am all for immigration and doing it all legally but not the way things have been going.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:19 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:44 pm)
Why do people hate Mexicans?

In fact I love them...I married one (exwife now)...and I am married to a wonderful Hispanic woman now. God Bless Latinas!

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:22 pm

> id="QUOTE"> border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote (chr3335 @ June 10 2010, 6:14 pm)> id="QUOTE"> border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:00 pm)> id="QUOTE">that is rude. everyone can have an opinion and this law will hurt the economy for some people.
border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0">>>Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:18 pm)

Except you condemn it when you don't even fully understand it. ?How can you make a correct and factual judgment when you haven't learned anything about the subject you are making a judgment on.

I will be rude when people base their opinion on incorrect/inaccurate information.

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Wrong wealth doesn't have certain distribution levels we just have to make the pie bigger and all benefit.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:23 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 2:18 pm)
Read the papers and listen to the talk shows on TV. Listen to my boss. the law is bad. all wealth has certain distribution levels and many prefer to have it flow in a certain direction.

Yeah, okay:

News Media:

"Hear ye hear ye all lemmings....just listen to the newspapers and news media and other TV (it must be true if it is on TV)...we will steer you right. You do not need to think for yourself and research the facts...believe me, if we keep saying something long enough no matter how wrong it is or even if it is a lie, it will soon be accepted as fact and truth as long as we keep saying it is true.

Thank you and good night."


*And off the cliff they all go...

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:23 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:21 pm)
Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:19 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:44 pm)
Why do people hate Mexicans?

In fact I love them...I married one (exwife now)...and I am married to a wonderful Hispanic woman now. God Bless Latinas!

you divorced one and it sounds like you hate them, but congrats on your new marriage.

Divorced one and married another how did you get hate of entire race?

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:25 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 2:19 pm)
tens of million voters have never read the bill and think its racist. How can they all be wrong?

You are kidding right? LOL! Again...just follow the lemmings in front of you...the nice breeze you feel as you seem a bit light on your feet will end soon with a loud THUD!

:laugh: ?:laugh: ?:laugh: ?:laugh:

What a ROCK! ?:laugh:

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:29 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 2:25 pm)
Or they are right. even if they aren't, the overwhelming numbers make it so.

LOL! You are so funny....this dude is a flamer! No one is this stupid...
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Or they are right. even if they aren't, the overwhelming numbers make it so.
LOL!!!!!
You had me going...fish finns fish finns...real me in....you got me!

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:31 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:19 pm)
Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:16 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 2:00 pm)
that is rude. everyone can have an opinion and this law will hurt the economy for some people.

How is that rude? You set yourself up by first making the acusation that this law is racist and not reading it. Why is it now a lot of states are now behind the AZ law and wanting to make their own if it is so racist?

You did make yourself look, well pretty much "not smart"...if we disagree with the AZ law then we disagree with the Federal Law on this...I am all for immigration and doing it all legally but not the way things have been going.

tens of million voters have never read the bill and think its racist. How can they all be wrong?

Multiple examples of ignorance do not make something true.

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They aren't criminals, they are hard working undocumented workers that help the economy
 Some of them are hard working but just by being here they are criminals.  And I didn't realize members of ms-13 were not criminals.

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:31 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ June 11 2010, 2:23 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:21 pm)
Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:19 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:44 pm)
Why do people hate Mexicans?

In fact I love them...I married one (exwife now)...and I am married to a wonderful Hispanic woman now. God Bless Latinas!

you divorced one and it sounds like you hate them, but congrats on your new marriage.

Divorced one and married another how did you get hate of entire race?

Yeah I even married again...and happily so. In fact many of my closest friends are Mexicans...and go figure, they are here legally...who would have thought?

Any comments from the lemmings?

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:32 pm

Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:26 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ June 10 2010, 6:23 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:21 pm)
Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:19 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:44 pm)
Why do people hate Mexicans?

In fact I love them...I married one (exwife now)...and I am married to a wonderful Hispanic woman now. God Bless Latinas!

you divorced one and it sounds like you hate them, but congrats on your new marriage.

Divorced one and married another how did you get hate of entire race?

you need to read the whole thred and n ot cherry pick.

Since the whole thread is you making crap up that is rich :laugh:

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Report this Jun. 11 2010, 5:33 pm

Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:31 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ June 11 2010, 2:23 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 10 2010, 6:21 pm)
Quote (KlingonGeneral @ June 10 2010, 6:19 pm)
Quote (Entrprise_Fan @ June 11 2010, 1:44 pm)
Why do people hate Mexicans?

In fact I love them...I married one (exwife now)...and I am married to a wonderful Hispanic woman now. God Bless Latinas!

you divorced one and it sounds like you hate them, but congrats on your new marriage.

Divorced one and married another how did you get hate of entire race?

Yeah I even married again...and happily so. In fact many of my closest friends are Mexicans...and go figure, they are here legally...who would have thought?

Any comments from the lemmings?

Meh he will run out of talking points eventually.

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