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nextgeneration14

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 4:58 pm

Is it just me or does Voyager have some terrible acting problems. Don't get me wrong it's probably my favorite spin-off!

But wow! Am I imagining this??

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 5:58 pm

Such as? I thought the acting was decent to good.

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 7:16 pm

Quote (Quantumflux01 @ June 03 2010, 5:58 pm)
Such as? I thought the acting was decent to good.

At least that. I would say very good to excellent.

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 7:21 pm

I think it varys with the episode. Sometimes they were good, other times not so good.

Enterprise19

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 8:56 pm

OMG! The dudes who play Chakotay and Harry need serious help! And Kes!

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 03 2010, 11:59 pm

The actors are let down by poor scripts and plots, not the scripts and plots being let down by the actors.

Lynx677

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Report this Jun. 04 2010, 2:21 pm

The actors are great. Unfortunately, the writing was sometimes erratic and uninspired.

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Report this Jun. 04 2010, 11:35 pm

I'm not going to sing the praises of the actors of any of the Trek shows (maybe Sir Patrick...maybe), but Voyager had some interesting issues. I think Robert Beltran was a competent actor in a crummy role. Jennifer Lien was a good actress, but her character was practically nonexistent. I'm not sure about the rest. Robert Duncan McNeill had a strange idea of what "acting" was meant to be, and Garrett Wang should never have quit his day job.

But then there's William Shatner, and Jonathan Frakes...Basically, you can criticize any Star Trek actor you like and get away with it.

Of course, I like Star Trek and generally don't care about the acting -- unless Garrett Wang and Robert Duncan McNeill are involved :p

DeannaTRiker

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Report this Jun. 05 2010, 1:56 am

I watched the show before I found out anything about the cast. I just wanted to judge for myself.

Right away I noticed some bad acting and wondered if that was the problem with the show. But no, by the end of season 1 almost everyone had a chance to prove himself or herself. Sure, many of ST actors have theater background and some of them seem to think that ST allows for some dramatic overacting. I'm also sure some of the actors were ruining other people's shots and caused more retakes. That can be frustrating. Also, heard something about some actors not coming to the set prepared and struggling through their lines.

Here's a good interview with Kate Mulgrew where she talks about bad acting. She is basically pointing a finger at someone there, but we won't say who it is! It's somewhere at 1:36.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qk4dfTnRH5I&NR=1

Lynx677

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Report this Jun. 05 2010, 1:37 pm

I think the acting was good in seasons 1-3. Definitely as good as in TNG and DS9.

Quantumflux01

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Report this Jun. 05 2010, 5:20 pm

Yeah maybe the actors could act well, but sometimes in the wrong way, so maybe the problem is there's confusion between what the actor think's he/she is portraying and what we see (like the actor being out of character). I think the biggest problem in acting is miscommunication between the actors, script writers and producers.

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Report this Jun. 05 2010, 7:12 pm

Voyager is perfect. Can someone give a single example "one line" that should have been done over?


I didn't think so. :)

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Report this Jun. 05 2010, 8:23 pm

Quote (TransphasicTorpedoes @ June 05 2010, 7:12 pm)
Voyager is perfect. Can someone give a single example "one line" that should have been done over?


I didn't think so. :)

Agreed.

DeannaTRiker

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Report this Jun. 06 2010, 1:21 am

Just watch the Mulgrew interview or I will be forced to create a transcript.

She's pretty annoyed about it -- she was there! Once again, I am not sure who she had in mind.

When you are an actor (and especially when you have a recurring role), you get to create something unique to yourself -- and not just because your voice and looks are unique -- you give something of yourself, and preferrably something that is different from your other characters on different shows. You act, every minute of it, even if you don't have a speaking part. The directors and writers will be sure to notice your potential.

Of course, if all you care about is being the star of the show, having just a few lines will not help. However, we are discussing bad acting and acting without lines.

Having said that, Voyager lacks balance in crew acting time. This balance is rather distracting.

Lynx677

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Report this Jun. 06 2010, 1:48 am

Quote (DeannaTRiker @ June 05 2010, 2:21 am)
Just watch the Mulgrew interview or I will be forced to create a transcript.

She's pretty annoyed about it -- she was there! Once again, I am not sure who she had in mind.

When you are an actor (and especially when you have a recurring role), you get to create something unique to yourself -- and not just because your voice and looks are unique -- you give something of yourself, and preferrably something that is different from your other characters on different shows. You act, every minute of it, even if you don't have a speaking part. The directors and writers will be sure to notice your potential.

Of course, if all you care about is being the star of the show, having just a few lines will not help. However, we are discussing bad acting and acting without lines.

Having said that, Voyager lacks balance in crew acting time. This balance is rather distracting.

I can see your point here.

But I can also understand if an actor gets frustrated if he/she is hired for a role as, let's say the "second main character" and then is shoved away to become nothing more than a moving image in the background while the focus is shifted to other actors/characters.

I can also understand if an actor gets frustrated when he/she has ideas and suggestions which are constantly neglected.

Working under such conditions for a long time is frustrating and not everyone can take it.

When it comes to Voyager, I think that there were some things which were never solved, problems shoved under the carpet which may have created some tension here and there and my personal opinion is that those in charge didn't handle the problems very good, to say the least.

However, I'm quite happy with the acting and the characters in seasons 1-3. I think that all of them contributed in a good way to the show then. I think that the actors of Voyager really gave life to the characters.

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