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J.J.'s Star Trek Trilogy

exeter276

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Report this May. 18 2010, 2:56 pm

After watching and rewatching Star Trek '09 the obvious finally dawned on me how J.J.'s Trilogy will wrap up. The one constant in this new alternate universe is that the main characters of Kirk & Spock have each lost a parent that was alive in the original timeline before Nero encountered the USS Kelvin.

I see Kirk & Spock wanting to correct their alternate timeline to have George Kirk and Amanda Grayson alive and well like it was supposed to be. I seem to even recall an interview with Bruce Greenwood (Captain Pike) where he stated the third movie would make a dovetail to right where TOS begins, thus restoring the original timeline. Remember folks you heard it here first. ;)

SpaceTherapist

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Report this May. 18 2010, 3:08 pm

It is possible. If it does happen I would be fine with it and if it doesn't happen I am also fine with it.

fooledagain

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Report this May. 18 2010, 3:23 pm

Maybe you're right, but I haven't read anything that says they have mapped out the plot for part 2, let alone part 3. They could call it "Star Trek: We Want Our Mommies Back"
:)

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Report this May. 18 2010, 6:51 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ May 18 2010, 12:08 am)
It is possible. If it does happen I would be fine with it and if it doesn't happen I am also fine with it.

agreed.

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Report this May. 18 2010, 7:56 pm

How would you restore the timeline with 2 Spocks in the Alternate timeline. One would have to go back to the 24th Century.

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Report this May. 18 2010, 11:09 pm

Quote (exeter276 @ May 18 2010, 2:56 pm)
After watching and rewatching Star Trek '09 the obvious finally dawned on me how J.J.'s Trilogy will wrap up. The one constant in this new alternate universe is that the main characters of Kirk & Spock have each lost a parent that was alive in the original timeline before Nero encountered the USS Kelvin.

I see Kirk & Spock wanting to correct their alternate timeline to have George Kirk and Amanda Grayson alive and well like it was supposed to be. I seem to even recall an interview with Bruce Greenwood (Captain Pike) where he stated the third movie would make a dovetail to right where TOS begins, thus restoring the original timeline. Remember folks you heard it here first. ;)

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Report this May. 18 2010, 11:36 pm

Quote (exeter276 @ May 18 2010, 2:56 pm)
After watching and rewatching Star Trek '09 the obvious finally dawned on me how J.J.'s Trilogy will wrap up. The one constant in this new alternate universe is that the main characters of Kirk & Spock have each lost a parent that was alive in the original timeline before Nero encountered the USS Kelvin.

I see Kirk & Spock wanting to correct their alternate timeline to have George Kirk and Amanda Grayson alive and well like it was supposed to be. I seem to even recall an interview with Bruce Greenwood (Captain Pike) where he stated the third movie would make a dovetail to right where TOS begins, thus restoring the original timeline. Remember folks you heard it here first. ;)

Spock wouldnt risk it.

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Report this May. 18 2010, 11:37 pm

Quote (vadic @ May 18 2010, 7:56 pm)
How would you restore the timeline with 2 Spocks in the Alternate timeline. One would have to go back to the 24th Century.

Why???

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Report this May. 19 2010, 3:59 am

Quote (fooledagain @ May 18 2010, 12:23 pm)
Maybe you're right, but I haven't read anything that says they have mapped out the plot for part 2, let alone part 3. They could call it "Star Trek: We Want Our Mommies Back"
:)

Ummm,  I think Kirk still has his mommy, in both time lines.

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Report this May. 19 2010, 8:29 am

This opens an interesting line of philosophical questions concerning time travel. These lines of questions are explored in movies like the Butterfly Effect and others.

If you have one big problem is it worth the risk to travel back in time to fix it?
If you successfully fix this problem by going back in time is everything as it should be?
If you can fix one big problem why not fix many?
Does the problem you fix cause more problems for others?
How much change to a time line should one person be allowed to make?
Is it only one time line which is changed our one in an infinite multitude?

I am like others here who are open to either course of action. However I believe that time travel with the intentional purpose of changing the time line also presents many problems. Just like how fans are complaining when there is a reset button.

exeter276

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Report this May. 19 2010, 10:34 am

Quote (vadic @ May 18 2010, 7:56 pm)
How would you restore the timeline with 2 Spocks in the Alternate timeline. One would have to go back to the 24th Century.

Nimoy's Spock would go back to the 24th century, he doesn't belong in the past anyway. Plus Greenwood's mentioning of the dovetail into the original series makes sense to my theory.

Look I could be wrong and they haven't even finished writing the second movie much less the third film, but it just seems obvious to me and they could restore Vulcan & Romulus as well. Nimoy's Spock knows his good intentions to help the Romulans went wrong and probably doesn't want to end is career on such a downer.

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Report this May. 19 2010, 3:01 pm

Quote (exeter276 @ May 18 2010, 2:56 pm)
After watching and rewatching Star Trek '09 the obvious finally dawned on me how J.J.'s Trilogy will wrap up. The one constant in this new alternate universe is that the main characters of Kirk & Spock have each lost a parent that was alive in the original timeline before Nero encountered the USS Kelvin.

I see Kirk & Spock wanting to correct their alternate timeline to have George Kirk and Amanda Grayson alive and well like it was supposed to be. I seem to even recall an interview with Bruce Greenwood (Captain Pike) where he stated the third movie would make a dovetail to right where TOS begins, thus restoring the original timeline. Remember folks you heard it here first. ;)

nope, what is "really" going to happen is the Widower Sarek is going to marry the Widow Kirk and Kirk and Spock will become brothers  :p  :laugh:

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Report this May. 19 2010, 4:43 pm

I can see them plot and logic wise REALLY REALLY REALLY wanting to change the past. I can see Starfleet and the Federation being totally on board with that too.

NOT because of Kirk's dad or Spocks mom, more because they would want VULCAN back...

It's one of the 5 founding members of the Federation.
It was kind of a big deal loosing it, that and depending on how they save it and possibly George Kirk and spock's mom it may not return the timeline to mirror that of the Prime timeline.

Depending on how they get Vulcan back it could again be very different. Thus allowing the franchise to be ready for yet another re-imagining. (for beter or for worse)

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Report this May. 19 2010, 8:50 pm

I'd be okay with it (reaches for tylenol). But I can already see too many other possibilities as mentioned by Narada (swallows tylenol and chases it with Miller Genuine Draft). If done well, it's got potential to be really good....but I can see soooo many haters beating that idea down. And the time line arguments....(rubs temples). Don't get me wrong...I loved the new movie, and I hope that they do well with the second and third, and if they can wrap it up with an idea like that (which was good, by the way), I'd be cool with it (I think I said that already). It'll present a lot of "if you could go back in time and kill Hitler when he was a baby, would you do it?" type questions (finishes beer, and remembers that I stopped drinking 10 years ago. ####ed alternate timeline!!;) Anyway, that's my take on it. (reaches for another beer).

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Report this May. 19 2010, 11:07 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ May 18 2010, 1:08 pm)
It is possible. If it does happen I would be fine with it and if it doesn't happen I am also fine with it.

Agreed.

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