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Was the Prime Directive violated?

EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Jun. 02 2010, 11:14 pm

Quote (Quantumflux01 @ May 30 2010, 6:00 pm)
Stupid poll. How about: Worf did the right thing. To make this poll fair?

I was thinking the same thing.  I made no choice because I don't think Worf did anything wrong - certainly not anything to violate the Prime Directive (as Stovo and SB63 did a fine job of discussing).  

An interesting premise, but I think we're digging into something that doesn't really merit any attention...  at least from the "non-interference" standpoint.   :logical:

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Report this Jun. 08 2010, 2:36 pm

Sorry but I did not care because that was not my favorite episode.

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Report this Jun. 13 2010, 12:00 pm

Worf should've just left them alone. :honorable:

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Report this Jun. 14 2010, 2:00 am

Quote (stovokor2000 @ April 29 2010, 12:08 am)
I'm not sure I would agree with you.

I dont see what they had as a society.Yes the young seemed happy...but were they truly happy???

I would say not.

The prime directive has nothing to do with whether something makes a certain culture happy or not. That's the way OUR culture thinks and starfleet culture does not equal our culture. It's about letting them evolve naturally without interference. Nothing more and nothing less. They've encountered plenty of cultures that they felt were in danger or dying in some way and they had to struggle with themselves because of it. The prime directive tells them not to help, but they feel they will improve those people's lives and make them more happy if they do. The prime directive is not about making people happy.

Anyway, I agree that Worf didn't violate the prime directive. It only applies to pre-warp societies, like someone has already said.

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Report this Jun. 15 2010, 5:27 pm

Ha! Exploration is a violation of the Prime Directive! The number of new races those bumbling humans encounter! Oh what interference! Everytime those Starfleet people accidently discover a new race they've just broken the Prime Directive! It's a gimmick the Prime Directive; the threshold at which an alien race should be first contacted with is unclear. Consider; if aliens visited us just how threatened/changed would we feel? So what if a race has warp-drive the shock is still the same. Even when encountering races just as advanced as the Federation it's still a lottery what could happen.

Section 31 has the right idea; the Prime Directive can be adhered to or not depending on how advantageous it is to do so. Besides the Prime Directive can even work against the very races Starfleet tries not to interfere with! Remember that TNG episode where's Worf's foster brother rescues those people, those Medieval like people, when their planet's atmosphere was destroyed by plasma storms (or whatever it was that destroyed that atmosphere). There was the Enterprise, and the senior staff, just placidly watching a planet and it's people die! Just because the Prime Directive tells them not to interfere! It was blatent negligence on Picard's part to let that people die! The Enterprise could have rescued some of the survivors.

Yes the survivors culture would be irreparably lost, it would be a horrendous shock to them. But I'm certain basic survival, when push comes to shove, overrides everything else: culture, home, family, religion and so forth.

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Report this Jun. 15 2010, 5:43 pm

I could care less...so I picked Worf to commit suicide  :p

Well honestly, (hatred of Worf aside), his part in educating the Klingon young-uns was a good and bad thing but not a violation really of the Prime Directive in my opinion. Yet the pataQ Worf did cause issues by telling them about their true culture which to me was a good thing.

It did disrupt the life those people had there and I see your point in that...so they should have killed him...but hind-sight is 20/20.  :laugh:

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Report this Jun. 15 2010, 5:45 pm

Quote (Quantumflux01 @ May 30 2010, 3:00 pm)
Stupid poll. How about: Worf did the right thing. To make this poll fair?

PAH! To Gre'thor with Worf!  :honorable:

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Report this Jun. 17 2010, 1:10 am

Quote (Spock2010 @ May 01 2010, 4:32 pm)
The fact that he was off duty changes everything.

Just as a RL soldier on leave would still be subject to military justice, a Starfleet Officer is still subject to SF regulations even when off duty.  :logical:

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Report this Jun. 17 2010, 1:14 am

If you want to see this in action, just watch Star Trek III, when McCoy tries to charter a spaceship to the Mutara system.

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Report this Jun. 19 2010, 11:52 pm

Quote (Quantumflux01 @ June 15 2010, 5:27 pm)
Ha! Exploration is a violation of the Prime Directive! The number of new races those bumbling humans encounter! Oh what interference! Everytime those Starfleet people accidently discover a new race they've just broken the Prime Directive!

Not really. If the new race never sees them or knows of their existence. If they are only observers and don't actually make any kind of contact with the race, then nothing was broken. They can watch new races and discover new races without those races ever knowing that they were there.

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Report this Jun. 24 2010, 1:42 am

Worf was captured and taken prisoner by Romulans on a mission to rescue Klingons captured from the battle of Kitomer. There's no pretext for interference after a full scale battle.

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