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How Many Here Dont Like The New Movie

ItalianTiberius24

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Report this Apr. 17 2010, 7:29 pm

I know this has pry been done a million times before but i'd just like to know how many members on these boards who dont like this new movie there are...I for one despise it....so if you could just post and say here! or maybe a quick point or two why you dont like it....btw please i dont want anyone posting in this thread who DOES like this movie....thats great for you but again please dont come onto my thread and flame...thank you....

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Report this Apr. 17 2010, 7:44 pm

I don't not like the new movie.

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Report this Apr. 17 2010, 8:25 pm

I love it, love it, love it!

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Report this Apr. 17 2010, 9:57 pm

I dont like it,as i have said before,the movie is a big typical hollywood scifi flick which happens to be using the name star trek in it's title

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 12:12 am

Redundancy of topic has become the standard of StarTrek.com...as we say on Earth, C'est la vie

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 12:50 am

I don't like it, and find new reasons for it from day to day. I think it shats on the mythology and wish it had not been made. Yet I do not hate it and watch it from time to time for the few things I do like about it.

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 12:38 pm

The only thing I don't like about the new movie is how it causes the same 5 or 6 people to post threads like this every 3-4 days hoping to stir up some negativity and bickering.

Other than that, I find it completely entertaining.

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 1:15 pm

STAR TREK (2009) is the first ST film that I was disappointed with.  I don't necessarily hate the film but I feel the writers/producers/director could have done some things differently.  

For example...
1. Why not follow cannon that has been established rather than creating a new time line.  I feel the writers were too lazy to craft a really good story that dealt more with what had been established in previous Trek incarnations.  Hell, I think Rick Berman and Brannon Braga could have done better.
2. Nero, while interesting was not a very well crafted villain.  I know I'm going to get some flack for this but I felt Shinzon had a better developed story than Nero did and had a better relationship/interest in the main characters.  Nero just seemed to scream and throw tantrums during to course of the film.  Perhaps some of the deleted scenes would have benefited his character.
3. The radical change in design was a problem.  The exterior starship design didn't bother me too much but the interior, especially engineering was just awful.
4. Why destroy Vulcan?  Perhaps the most popular ST species have lost their home.  Again the writers seem too lazy.  They just throw in something dramatic to try and make this film stand out from all the rest, rather than trying to craft a good story.
5. And perhaps the most surprising to me was Leonard Nimoy's performance in the film.  Other than for a few scenes his acting was below par (especially the scene at the end of the film with Quinto).  Look back on some of his other work (STII,IV,VI) and you can cleary see a difference.  I know that age may play a part but its not everything.
6. There were several times during the film I wanted to reach out and grab the camera to steady it.  This hand-held look that directors are going for is annoying.  Plus, Abrams is too in love with flares!
7. The love relationship between Spock and Uhura just doesn't make sense.  I hope they break up in the next film.
8. The off-color humor.  IE. the "talented tongue" joke.  Has this what ST has become?  Oral sex jokes to get a laugh.  

But there were good things about the film, most notably the new actors.  Each and every one did an outstanding job playing their perspective characters.  (Although I was not too impresed with Saldana).  There are enough good points in the film that could be used to make a good sequel.  I just feel the question is will the writers/director put out the effort to do a good story?

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 2:12 pm

Why must people continue to defend this movie? I know you all like it, great I am happy for you, but others just can't stand it.  Despite the fact that it did over 200 million, I can find more people that say they HATE this movie, dislike, or do not care for this movie then I have been able, in my life, to find that can say that about almost any Star Trek movie to date! Does this mean that they are in the majority? No it does not, but what it does mean is that they don't care for it and they don't mind saying it. I made a decision, about a week ago, that I would not trash New Trek in a thread that was all about New Trek love. If I was going to post in those threads then it would be on an aspect of the film that I liked. Here in this thread, a thread designed for those who do not like the New Trek movie, I am all for just letting it all out.

This movie did not "save" Star Trek for some people, it ruined it. Now I understand that sometimes one movie fails a person and the next one is  successful to them, so I will watch the next one. If it is as bad as this one, I will not spend a penny more on the new stuff till a competent science fiction team can get a hold of it. Not this drivel and crap Abrams is putting out.

If you like this movie and have a problem with people who like to profess that they don't, GO TO HELL!  Or just do what I do, and let it slide off of you like a fried egg on Teflon :D

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 3:53 pm

I liked it, but I had some issues with it as well.

A good Star Trek film (or episode) makes you think.  To me, that's a huge part of what Star Trek is.  This movie didn't make me think, it was more of a 'sit back and enjoy the explosions, special effects and action sequences' type of movie, which is fine but to me it misses the point of what Star Trek is all about.

ItalianTiberius24

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 4:01 pm

Quote (cptdon @ April 18 2010, 2:12 pm)
Why must people continue to defend this movie? I know you all like it, great I am happy for you, but others just can't stand it. ¿Despite the fact that it did over 200 million, I can find more people that say they HATE this movie, dislike, or do not care for this movie then I have been able, in my life, to find that can say that about almost any Star Trek movie to date! Does this mean that they are in the majority? No it does not, but what it does mean is that they don't care for it and they don't mind saying it. I made a decision, about a week ago, that I would not trash New Trek in a thread that was all about New Trek love. If I was going to post in those threads then it would be on an aspect of the film that I liked. Here in this thread, a thread designed for those who do not like the New Trek movie, I am all for just letting it all out.

This movie did not "save" Star Trek for some people, it ruined it. Now I understand that sometimes one movie fails a person and the next one is ¿successful to them, so I will watch the next one. If it is as bad as this one, I will not spend a penny more on the new stuff till a competent science fiction team can get a hold of it. Not this drivel and crap Abrams is putting out.

If you like this movie and have a problem with people who like to profess that they don't, GO TO HELL! ¿Or just do what I do, and let it slide off of you like a fried egg on Teflon :D

Bravo cptdon and very well said! the only thing ill add is i will NOT see the next NU Trek movie or spend a penny on anything in this perverted melrose place/90210/gossip girl meets star trek abomination in the future.

I agree with everything people have pointed out in this thread and I feel there were just soooooo many different ways they could of gone to make this new movie good. they could of had the same actors just portray different star trek characters say in the future after tng as the new crew of the enterprise. since they were going for the non star trek fan anyways who pry doesnt know who kirk or spock are just have chris pine play a different character (not kirk though) with similar characteristics. the same goes for quinto. they could have him play a vulcan but just not spock. they could keep the same tagline about this is NOT YOUR FATHER'S STAR TREK and all that nonsense and as long as the special effects were good people will come to see it. the characters still could of been coming out of the academy and we would of just followed them from there on their new careers. this would of appealed so much more to new and old fans alike. youd be furthering the trek timeline in its canon and also not messing with beloved past characters (plus just DO NOT BLOW UP VULCAN YOU NO TALENT HACKS) and there's a million other ways they could of gone....

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 5:24 pm

Quote (cptdon @ April 18 2010, 2:12 pm)
Why must people continue to defend this movie? I know you all like it, great I am happy for you, but others just can't stand it. ?Despite the fact that it did over 200 million, I can find more people that say they HATE this movie, dislike, or do not care for this movie then I have been able, in my life, to find that can say that about almost any Star Trek movie to date! Does this mean that they are in the majority? No it does not, but what it does mean is that they don't care for it and they don't mind saying it. I made a decision, about a week ago, that I would not trash New Trek in a thread that was all about New Trek love. If I was going to post in those threads then it would be on an aspect of the film that I liked. Here in this thread, a thread designed for those who do not like the New Trek movie, I am all for just letting it all out.

This movie did not "save" Star Trek for some people, it ruined it. Now I understand that sometimes one movie fails a person and the next one is ?successful to them, so I will watch the next one. If it is as bad as this one, I will not spend a penny more on the new stuff till a competent science fiction team can get a hold of it. Not this drivel and crap Abrams is putting out.

If you like this movie and have a problem with people who like to profess that they don't, GO TO HELL! ?Or just do what I do, and let it slide off of you like a fried egg on Teflon :D


"Why must people continue to defend this movie?"

########, I don't know. Maybe it has something to do with the fact that every week, there's another thread just like this one that says NOTHING new and adds NOTHING valuable or constructive to the board. This topic has been discussed TO DEATH at this point, and every single time (especially NOW) that one of these threads pops up, it's based almost entirely on drumming up conflict.

The movie took a risk, and like any risk that drives toward massive change, it will polarize people. The trick is, knowing full well that you WILL polarize people...can you get more people on the "love" side than the "hate" side?

This movie certainly did that.

This movie is the ultimate example of a change model and how people react to change. It's the typical bi-modal reaction.

Dispite the number of fans (minor, at best) who "absolutely hated the movie," I'd submit that the risk was absolutely necessary. Star Trek had played it safe for far too long, and it was time to move on to the next incarnation. Everyone involved in this project KNEW that there would be a certain percentage of fans who would be completely ostracized. That's what major change does.

You have to recognize that this is all by design. People cry and whine about the new movie as if someone somewhere is listening and saying "OH NO!!! We didn't make so-and-so fan happy!! What are we going to do?? What are we EVER going to do??? WE have to change NOW, so we get so-and-so fan's patronage and loyalty!" That's not what's happening here. Frankly, nobody at Paramount or in the creative team cares too terribly about the segment of people who DIDN'T enjoy the movie. It was a smash success by all standards (particularly for a Trek film) without that segment...so why change the formula that brought universal success?

So, threads like this pop up every now and again under the guise of some kind of half-baked mutual emotional support structure for all the ostracized fans...but usually the purpose is REALLY:

1. incite conflict with those who feel differently

2. hope that someone from the creative team is reading and will take note of the whining, thus altering the make-up of the next project

The anger and irrational emotion displayed in these responses is disappointing (although not as bad as the original poster) and really takes away from the how seriously it can be taken.

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 7:01 pm

Quote (Yanks @ April 19 2010, 8:01 am)
Interesting topic... :eyesroll:

I liked the movie. Perfect? No Cast perfectly? HELL YES!!!

But I'm glad it's here, because it has kindled new interest in Trek for a younger generation.

Word Yanks

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 7:58 pm

Quote (cptdon @ April 18 2010, 2:12 pm)
. ¿Despite the fact that it did over 200 million, I can find more people that say they HATE this movie, dislike, or do not care for this movie then I have been able, in my life, to find that can say that about almost any Star Trek movie to date!

Really???

I seem to find more people that loved the film then hate it.

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 8:00 pm

Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ April 18 2010, 4:16 pm)
A few things I must point out AND I know a lot of people will gripe about it is:

Star Trek never needed saving to begin with. The more i think about it for all the little gripes I have with this movie it has taken TREK in a new direction.

And I feel the need to point out again that the Franchise was indeed in need of saving.

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