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The United States is NOT a Christian Nation

Davros_

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 7:02 pm

Quote (BIG_SILLY_FAT_GUY @ April 15 2010, 1:38 pm)
Christmas and Easter being National holidays.

Actually, Easter is NOT a Federal holiday (the proper term) in the US.

natenemo

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 9:16 pm

well...there go the good ol days...Dangit!... :cry:

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 10:47 pm

Let me play devil's advocate. Our nation says we can worship the God of our choosing. The Bible says we are to worship the one true God. So the Bible really doesn't justify Freedom of Religion. Because Christians aren't free to worship just any God.

This country gives us free speech yet the Bible demonstrated that some people were actually killed by God himself for the very words they spoke.

We say we have a right to protest our elected leaders. Paul says our leaders are sent to us by God and that were are to obey them.

There are more....

CtotheRtotheOBob

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 11:33 pm

Okay, you should try a little harder to play devil's advocate. The first one... of course Christians have the right to be Christian. The idea they must worship the God they already worship is due to already worshiping it anyhow.

The nation is not God or the Bible. Our nation allows you to say anything you like, except in extenuating circumstances (shouting "fire!" in a crowded movie theater, for example). God, if one exists, may take offense and kill someone, but our nation allows it.

We do have the right to protest our leaders. Christians may choose not to, in following their religion, but they have the legal right to.

IVHoltzman

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 11:34 pm

Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ April 17 2010, 3:29 pm)
No. You're committing the same fallacy. I looked up a list of fallacies, but all I could come up with, without combing the whole list of 200 fallacies, was that it's a simple non sequitur.

I've found that most conflicts are, at their core, arguments over who has the bigger fallacy.

CtotheRtotheOBob

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 11:39 pm

... Thanks for adding to the conversation?

IVHoltzman

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Report this Apr. 18 2010, 11:48 pm

Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ April 18 2010, 11:39 pm)
Quote (IVHoltzman @ Stardate 10:04.17)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ April 17 2010, 3:29 pm)
No. You're committing the same fallacy. I looked up a list of fallacies, but all I could come up with, without combing the whole list of 200 fallacies, was that it's a simple non sequitur.

I've found that most conflicts are, at their core, arguments over who has the bigger fallacy.
... Thanks for adding to the conversation?

Gladly. I relish my right as a citizen of the Constitution to be free from the risk of being charged with sacrilege and/or blasphemy. The U.S. is a nation in which many citizens are still Christian, but the U.S. itself is a nation which has sworn an oath of celibacy from religion. The government of the U.S. commits a sin against its own oath every time it takes sides with one religious interpretation (including atheism) against other interpretations. The obligation laid upon government by our Constitution is that government be above the fray.

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