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Report this Apr. 10 2010, 10:05 am

He also says however that Trek is in good hand with Abrams and he liked the new movie.

http://trekmovie.com/2010....-series

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Report this Apr. 10 2010, 10:29 am

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A series run by Moore might have the right tension and uncertainty a post-ST:XI 24th century in the prime timeline might have, were CBS allowed to use those aspects of the movie on TV.

Romulus and Remus are destroyed, the Klingons, Cardassians and Breen will be drooling to take over Romulan territory, there will be military and political upheaval within the Empire...and doubtlessly, Starfleet will end up stuck being the referee.

:logical:

Would the general public like a Trek series like that? You also need them for a Trek series to survive. The new online game ties in with the new movie but it also uses the Borg again.

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Report this Apr. 10 2010, 10:46 am

I got it, I got it:

... Star Trek: Umpire

:laugh:

Wha? Too lame? :(

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 2:06 am

I prefer a Star Trek series that focuses on space exploration as the main theme.

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 4:50 am

RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 11:04 am

Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 4:50 am)
RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.

BSG is one of my favorite sci-fi creations of all time.

But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 2:29 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ April 10 2010, 10:20 am)
A series run by Moore might have the right tension and uncertainty a post-ST:XI 24th century in the prime timeline might have, were CBS allowed to use those aspects of the movie on TV.

Romulus and Remus are destroyed, the Klingons, Cardassians and Breen will be drooling to take over Romulan territory, there will be military and political upheaval within the Empire...and doubtlessly, Starfleet will end up stuck being the referee.

:logical:

Gosh, that sounds...boring.

Politics, war, violence -- I get enough of that reading the newspaper.

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 10:25 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ April 11 2010, 3:10 pm)
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Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 4:50 am)
RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.

BSG is one of my favorite sci-fi creations of all time.

But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.

Didn't you just describe the "peace keeping force" aspect of Starfleet as portrayed in STXI?

Sounds right up Ron Moore's DS9/Dominion War alley...

What are you talking about?

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 10:33 pm

Quote (Vger23 @ April 11 2010, 4:25 pm)
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Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 4:50 am)
RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.

BSG is one of my favorite sci-fi creations of all time.

But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.

Didn't you just describe the "peace keeping force" aspect of Starfleet as portrayed in STXI?

Sounds right up Ron Moore's DS9/Dominion War alley...

What are you talking about?

RDM did a bit of work with DS9 in the Dominion War arcs, and Voyager with Year of Hell.

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Report this Apr. 12 2010, 9:26 am

Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 10:33 pm)
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RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.

BSG is one of my favorite sci-fi creations of all time.

But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.

Didn't you just describe the "peace keeping force" aspect of Starfleet as portrayed in STXI?

Sounds right up Ron Moore's DS9/Dominion War alley...

What are you talking about?

RDM did a bit of work with DS9 in the Dominion War arcs, and Voyager with Year of Hell.

Yeah, I know that.

I think what I was trying to understand is what TB's comment means.

TB, if you are expressing distaste at Pike's line in the film that "Starfleet is a humanitarian and peacekeeping armada," I'd have to wonder what about this is objectionable.

Starfleet IS a humanitarian and peacekeeping armada!

Actions speak louder than words, and for all of Starfleet's high-sounding words about their mission to explore the galaxy and explore the nature of the universe...most of the time they are:

engaged in rescue operations (outposts, ships, etc.)
checking up on colonists
policing the galaxy
acting as diplomats
acting as courriers
patroling boarders
engaged in millitary operations

To me, that sounds like a "humanitarian and peace keeping" force to me. The word "armada" is also applicable. Starfleet ships are armed to the gills! They have at least the same weapons and defense technology and ability as the Klingon Empire, which is the most warlike government in the Trek universe. That certainly makes them an "armada" in my mind.

I even took a look at all the episodes of the original series. Only about 20% (and that's being GENEROUS) had the Enterprise on a mission of pure exploration. I even gave credit to episodes that STARTED OUT on exploration missions, but typically ended up with something else. Most of the time, they were doing one of the tasks I listed above. TNG is about the same percentage.

Kirk and Picard can talk on all they want about the ideals they are clearly taught about in the Academy...but at the end of the day, Starfleet is an instrument of the UFP...typically performing humanitarian and peacekeeping duties. I think they are "lucky" when they get a pure exploration gig!

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Report this Apr. 12 2010, 6:07 pm

I like exploration, and I like military stories, and I don't mind social commentary if it is in a story that makes me forget there is social commentary on the screen. Above all they need to do it right, with good characters that are either original or well done retreads with slightly new aspects to them. This last movie almost seemed like parody to me in some ways. I don't want that in a TV show. I want something that will bring me back week after week.

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Report this Apr. 12 2010, 6:40 pm

You know, all these ppl who are screeching against RDM being involved in Trek seem to forget that he used to be one of the show's writers/producers over the course of three series. Hell, some of the best Trek episodes were penned by RDM himself.

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Report this Apr. 13 2010, 1:05 am

Quote (starbase63 @ April 10 2010, 8:20 am)
Romulus and Remus are destroyed, the Klingons, Cardassians and Breen will be drooling to take over Romulan territory, there will be military and political upheaval within the Empire...and doubtlessly, Starfleet will end up stuck being the referee.

:logical:

I'm still shocked that this isn't generating more buzz on these boards.

The Romulan Star Empire is horribly fractured because of this. One of the strongest and oldest interplanetary factions in ST! This could potentially shake things up in the Federation as strongly as the Khitomer accords or even the Dominion War.

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Report this Apr. 13 2010, 8:31 am

Quote (trekbuff @ April 12 2010, 5:11 pm)
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Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 10:33 pm)
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Quote (Captain_Kayzek_Juno_TGCO @ April 11 2010, 4:50 am)
RDM knows what he is doing.

A Star Trek series with the constant uncertainty of survival, the ever present knowledge that total annihilation may be around any corner or at the end of any warp jump would be a real boost for ST as a whole, just as it was for revitalizing BSG. Though of course they had to butcher that success with Caprica.
BSG is one of my favorite sci-fi creations of all time.

But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.
Didn't you just describe the "peace keeping force" aspect of Starfleet as portrayed in STXI?

Sounds right up Ron Moore's DS9/Dominion War alley...

What are you talking about?
RDM did a bit of work with DS9 in the Dominion War arcs, and Voyager with Year of Hell.
Yeah, I know that.

I think what I was trying to understand is what TB's comment means.

TB, if you are expressing distaste at Pike's line in the film that "Starfleet is a humanitarian and peacekeeping armada," I'd have to wonder what about this is objectionable.

Starfleet IS a humanitarian and peacekeeping armada!

Actions speak louder than words, and for all of Starfleet's high-sounding words about their mission to explore the galaxy and explore the nature of the universe...most of the time they are:

engaged in rescue operations (outposts, ships, etc.)
checking up on colonists
policing the galaxy
acting as diplomats
acting as courriers
patroling boarders
engaged in millitary operations

To me, that sounds like a "humanitarian and peace keeping" force to me. The word "armada" is also applicable. Starfleet ships are armed to the gills! They have at least the same weapons and defense technology and ability as the Klingon Empire, which is the most warlike government in the Trek universe. That certainly makes them an "armada" in my mind.

I even took a look at all the episodes of the original series. Only about 20% (and that's being GENEROUS) had the Enterprise on a mission of pure exploration. I even gave credit to episodes that STARTED OUT on exploration missions, but typically ended up with something else. Most of the time, they were doing one of the tasks I listed above. TNG is about the same percentage.

Kirk and Picard can talk on all they want about the ideals they are clearly taught about in the Academy...but at the end of the day, Starfleet is an instrument of the UFP...typically performing humanitarian and peacekeeping duties. I think they are "lucky" when they get a pure exploration gig!

Which goes right back to your comments and my response:
Quote (trekbuff @ April 11 2010, 3:10 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ April 11 2010, 11:04 am)
But...what you're talking about ISN'T Star Trek. It would be a sci-fi show like BSG under the Star Trek name.

Any Star Trek production needs to maintain the core structure and themes of the shows that have preceeded it (optimism, discovery, adventure) or it's just another doom-and-gloom show.

I have no desire to see a "Star Trek" show weighted down by the cliches of galactic politics and post-9/11 doom.

Sorry, but if that's really the direction people want Trek to go in, I'm jumping off the bandwagon and I'll stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before.
Didn't you just describe the "peace keeping force" aspect of Starfleet as portrayed in STXI?

Sounds right up Ron Moore's DS9/Dominion War alley...

I never expressed "distaste" at anything in this thread, only confusion at your continued expression of what direction you don't wish to see Trek go in or you'll jump off the bandwagon, yet further claim it has always been that way....

Since when has Starfleet been described as an Armada? STXI. You'll "stick to the Abrams films and the stuff that's come before," yet you claim it's always been exactly what would now make you jump off the bandwagon....

You were trying to understand what I meant?

:laugh:

I think you're zigging while I'm zagging, buddy...which is nothing new.

You are 100% correct. Starfleet was NEVER described as an "armada."

I think the whole point of my post is that it doesn't matter, because like it or not, no matter what is SAID in dialogue, Starfleet IS an armada. Pike just told it like it is instead of spewing the rhetoric and high-sounding words you hear through the series. No dialogue is going to change reality, and the reality is that Starfleet is a heavily armed, well trained, vast armada filled with multi-mission capable starships, equally prepared for war, peace, discovery, rescue, etc. That's reality. Pike didn't want to feed Kirk a line of rhetoric.

What I'm saying is that I want more of what I liked (don't we all...I'm quite certain that is undeniable!;). And, what I liked MOST was TOS, TNG, the TOS movies, and XI. I know you find it hard to believe that I would lump XI into the same category as those other series...but it is what it is.

I found XI to be a perfect example of the things I appreciated in Star Trek TOS. Sorry you saw something different there...again, different strokes. I'm just lucky I got what I wanted.

And, what I said was I want to see optimism, discovery, and adventure. I don't think a Romulan War series or a series about galactic politics or intrigue would be a good Star Trek show (opinion). I don't think a series about the political and social unrest in the wake of the Hobus Star supernova would be good Star Trek (opinion). I'm much more into seeing more of the fun, fast-paced, character-driven, light adventures that the new movie has paved the way for. That's just me, for better or worse.

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Report this Apr. 13 2010, 2:53 pm

That would be a dream come true.

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