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"Q" Omnipotent

fjbalist

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Report this Apr. 05 2010, 7:23 pm

"Q" once told Picard that he was omnipotent, so does that mean he's God?

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Report this Apr. 05 2010, 9:04 pm

Being omnipotent doesn't mean you created all that exists.

cptdon

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Report this Apr. 06 2010, 11:48 am

I believe he is powerful and arrogant, but not omnipotent. Poll lacks a proper response and can't be answered.

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Report this Apr. 06 2010, 2:58 pm

Q is apparently an incredibly powerful alien being. "God" doesn't exist. Of course, Q is just a character on a show, not an actual incredibly powerful alien being, so they're even.

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Report this Apr. 07 2010, 9:52 am

Quote (Pooneil @ April 06 2010, 2:58 pm)
Q is apparently an incredibly powerful alien being. "God" doesn't exist. Of course, Q is just a character on a show, not an actual incredibly powerful alien being, so they're even.

Prove it! Prove God does not exist and that Star Trek is not a historical document.... well prove it!

:) ;)  :laugh:

But seriously  :logical:

TaoTrek

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Report this Apr. 08 2010, 1:06 pm

To me, they're both fictional and I had to go with "Null Vote" :D :laugh:

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Report this Apr. 11 2010, 1:28 am

Q may very well be omnipotent or "all powerful". All that means is to have great or possibly unlimited power, and he does appear to have a command over the whole of the universe. It is still unknown if he has command over life & death. However, in order for him to qualify as God, he'd also have to be omniscient, "all knowing", as well as the creator of said universe. things which he is certainly not

Kesfan74656

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 10:15 am

If you look at the Voyager episode ''Death Wish'' there is a scene between Tuvok and ''Quinn'' the exiled Q,in which the former is expressing some curiosity as to the actual extent of his species capabilities, and Quinn makes it clear that, while their race may seem all-powerful, he indicates that isn't necessarily the case, but does not elaborate further.


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 11:53 am

Yes, quinn said that relative to humans and other species, the Q are immensely powerful and seem omnipotent, but they are not.


So, while they are more powerful than most of the species seen, they are not omnipotent and, therefore, do not qualify as God.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 1:35 pm

I love it when theology and sci-fi mix. Laugh it up, L Ron Hubbard!

Anyway, God is a relative term here, being as we are talking about fiction. The Bajorans saw the wormhole aliens as gods, and to them, they were. They 'fathered' Bajor and led its destiny along. In the same way, they were gods to Sisko, they literally mothered him and manipulated his life. They existed on a different plain and did a lot of super-human things so they qualify as omnipotent gods- powerful and without beginning or ending. Q was the same, though he was not benevolent or anything like the Judao-Christian God, he was powerful and ageless beyond our mortal ability to comprehend.

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 2:50 pm

As John Delancey so eloquently put it:
Q is, "... mad, bad and dangerous to know."
That's what I like about him. ha ha!

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 2:51 pm

No one or thing can be really be omnipotent. How could you prove their power had no limit. You can only disprove omnipotence. Since Q was able to have his powers stripped by the other Q he is not obviously not omnipotent.

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 5:09 pm

Picard knows Q is dangerous if you anger him (whatever happened to the "too advanced for emotions"?) but Picard does not beleive he will kill. I like Q because I don't have to deal with him. Do you think that Q is really that bad? i don't. I think he is misunderstood.

Pain is a thing of the mind. The mind can be controlled. -Spock

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 5:27 pm

Quote: Trekkie 12 @ Sep. 02 2010, 5:09 pm

Picard knows Q is dangerous if you anger him (whatever happened to the "too advanced for emotions"?) but Picard does not beleive he will kill. I like Q because I don't have to deal with him. Do you think that Q is really that bad? i don't. I think he is misunderstood.

I actually think Q is a better... being than the other inhabitants of the Q continuum.

He chose to manifest himself in our dimension and put humanity to a test we were eventually bound to take if we were going to evolve into something more. He never actually hurt anyone and even gained a few human traits while being "stripped" of his powers.

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Report this Sep. 02 2010, 5:57 pm

Exactly. He was, in his own way, trying to teach humanity...even if the 'lessons' weren't easy in themselves, but, of course, that was half the point. He found himself not only intrigued by humanity, but coming to I think care about its future, and saw something in us, more than the 'Youre advancing further and faster than you should' mentality Q expressed in the pilot. He was a rough schoolmaster at times-but he did what he thought was needed to get Picard and his race to move forward. And he even dared ask a human-Kathryn Janeway-to be a godmother to his offspring. What other Q would have 'stooped that low'?....Makes one wonder if his own changing viewpoint may have rubbed off a bit in the Continuum somewhere...


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

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