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Star Trek Online: The Needs of the Many

PhantomCrunk007

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Report this May. 13 2010, 11:00 pm

Quote (Captain_Storma @ May 13 2010, 12:29 am)
Dear TheDriver

I played the game, but it soon became very monotonous and repetitive.

I followed the "Path to 2409" and it lacked the soul that Roddenberry's TREK was about: Hope, mutual respect and friendship.

Making Klingons the bad guys again (especially after what the Federation and the Klingons have been through together in the - in TREK timeline - recent past) is just ignorant on the authors side.

The timeline shown in the books seems more plausible, and honors the message TUC had; that enemies can become friends.

That's just my opinion. STO is simply about fighting. I miss exploration, diplomacy, archeology etc.
If you ask fans which games were their favorite ones, you will get the answer: 25th Anniversary, Judgment Rites, A Final Unity. Those games cought TREK's spirit at it's very core, and action was completely avoidable.

STAR TREK is not STAR WARS. I hope we agree at least in this point.

He only played the demo.

He's just still upset about the whole J.J. Abrams has taken over the Trek Universe thing.

B_4

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Report this May. 15 2010, 9:54 am

I was a few chapters into the book and I think the book is OK, it's certainly not a David Mack book, :p  ;)  but anyway I've lost the book somehow which is really shocking to me because I Never Lose books! Oh well, there's a first time for everything. Maybe I will find it hidden somewhere in my house or I will just check it out from the library because I'm not buying it again.

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Report this May. 15 2010, 12:03 pm

I haven't played ST:Online, but I liked the book.  It was a slow start and the Maco interview was a bit dry for me, but the other interviews were interesting.  I liked the tie-ins to the other ST events.  It was interesting to see how the children, Jake, Nog and others, fared.

One of my fave interviews was with Vic :)  That one was really good, IMO.

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Report this May. 15 2010, 6:34 pm

Quote (PhantomCrunk007 @ May 14 2010, 8:00 am)
Quote (Captain_Storma @ May 13 2010, 12:29 am)
Dear TheDriver

I played the game, but it soon became very monotonous and repetitive.

I followed the "Path to 2409" and it lacked the soul that Roddenberry's TREK was about: Hope, mutual respect and friendship.

Making Klingons the bad guys again (especially after what the Federation and the Klingons have been through together in the - in TREK timeline - recent past) is just ignorant on the authors side.

The timeline shown in the books seems more plausible, and honors the message TUC had; that enemies can become friends.

That's just my opinion. STO is simply about fighting. I miss exploration, diplomacy, archeology etc.
If you ask fans which games were their favorite ones, you will get the answer: 25th Anniversary, Judgment Rites, A Final Unity. Those games cought TREK's spirit at it's very core, and action was completely avoidable.

STAR TREK is not STAR WARS. I hope we agree at least in this point.

He only played the demo.

He's just still upset about the whole J.J. Abrams has taken over the Trek Universe thing.

And you still haven't learnd that other people might have a different opinion than you... Some things probably will never change.  :D

domo_arigato

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Report this May. 15 2010, 6:54 pm

^Personally, I'm with Storma but maybe not for the same reasons. Star Trek needs to move past the traditional enemies and to bring in more frightening ones. 8472 is a good one, yes, but there are more they can choose from and create. I agree with Storma, considering everything for them to have been through, retreating to combat and war with the Klingons is absurd. If the Federation hadn't earned their respect after the Dominion War and Borg Conflict for being honourable warriors, or whatever, then when would they? Why backtrack to an old enemy? Create new ones! Push the boundary already, thats the way its always been (socially, technologically, and imaginatively).

Although I would like to see more of the JJ tech incorporated... holographic screens and the like. *shrug*

PhantomCrunk007

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Report this May. 16 2010, 2:02 am

Quote (Captain_Storma @ May 15 2010, 3:34 am)
Quote (PhantomCrunk007 @ May 14 2010, 8:00 am)
Quote (Captain_Storma @ May 13 2010, 12:29 am)
Dear TheDriver

I played the game, but it soon became very monotonous and repetitive.

I followed the "Path to 2409" and it lacked the soul that Roddenberry's TREK was about: Hope, mutual respect and friendship.

Making Klingons the bad guys again (especially after what the Federation and the Klingons have been through together in the - in TREK timeline - recent past) is just ignorant on the authors side.

The timeline shown in the books seems more plausible, and honors the message TUC had; that enemies can become friends.

That's just my opinion. STO is simply about fighting. I miss exploration, diplomacy, archeology etc.
If you ask fans which games were their favorite ones, you will get the answer: 25th Anniversary, Judgment Rites, A Final Unity. Those games cought TREK's spirit at it's very core, and action was completely avoidable.

STAR TREK is not STAR WARS. I hope we agree at least in this point.

He only played the demo.

He's just still upset about the whole J.J. Abrams has taken over the Trek Universe thing.

And you still haven't learnd that other people might have a different opinion than you... Some things probably will never change. ?:D

So what is your point? Im not saying anything about your opinion, just putting it in its proper frame of reference. Especially since you're passing judgment without having even played the full game. And whats more, all your little gripes that you have with the storyline of the game are addressed.

Matthias Russell

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Report this Jul. 16 2010, 4:47 pm

I thought the book was lame. I hate the formatting but understand it was the best way to provide sooooooo much information. Problem is- Janeway is alive in it but she was killed in Before Dishonor. If you don't play STO, don't bother with this one.

LTCmdrRoby

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Report this Sep. 01 2010, 11:34 am

I was not too into the book either. It was interesting to read about some of the events that had happened that lead up to the events in the game, but I think they could have done that in a better format. If you do pick it up buy it at a second hand book store or while on sale to save yourself a few bucks. I tried not to let Janeway still beinging alive bother me. With the movie creating a new universe I just tried to look at Before Dishonor as being in a slightly different universe from the game. Just like how the Destiny trilogy took care of the Borg.

doctor_professor

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Report this Sep. 01 2010, 3:21 pm

personally i don't care for the Klingons becoming bad guys again. i felt it was a step back in DS9 and feel the same way about it in STO. other than that, i think for the most part, the STO timeline flows fairly well. i was never satisfied with Species 8472. they were a huge threat then they made peace and were never heard from again. i'd rather they became the main threat in Voyager as opposed to the Borg.

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