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Does Racism exist in the 24th century?

RomulanFan

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 2:46 am

Racism exist in many forms. I'm talking about racism toward alien species. For example, lets say that a human family forbid their son from making any friends with Klingons or Vulcans because they're non-human. Do you think these types of people still exist in the 24th century? The ones that are prejudice?

Just imagine a human supremacist league running around Earth telling Andorians, Vulcans, or Klingons to get out.

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 3:04 am

Probably not in the 24th century, by that point we've been expossed to "aliens" for several hundred years.

A more personal form of bgotry is more likely, take Chief O'brien's dislike of Cardassians. That's born of personal experience not ignorance.

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 8:49 am

Should have a third choice 'yes and no.'

Other parts of the galaxy:yes.

In the Federation: no, supposedly.

Against the Cardassian, there is , initially, but maybe that eases somewhat, by the end of DS9?

There's maybe a sly form of racism against the Ferengi.

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 6:16 pm

The Federation's encounter with the Dominion almost certainly left an undercurrent of racism towards many changelings.

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 9:50 pm

Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 26 2010, 3:04 am)
Probably not in the 24th century, by that point we've been expossed to "aliens" for several hundred years.

A more personal form of bgotry is more likely, take Chief O'brien's dislike of Cardassians. That's born of personal experience not ignorance.

Sad but true; it's learned  :logical:

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 1:17 am

I remember hearing folks bandy about the term "spoonheads" in reference to the Cardassians, or "Cardies".  Both racist terms, really.  I remember reading something where the term "vulky" was used to refer to someone with a stick up their torpedo tube . . . sounds like racist slur against Vulcans . . .

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 1:25 am

Most definitely it exists. Look at the episodes "The Wounded" and "Cardassians". There are more examples but those two come quickly to mind. Look at what Cardassians did to Bajor and the Colonist along the DMZ. A lot of those people harbor hate towards them. And the Borg too. The Borg has devastated many Worlds and Cultures.

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 2:28 am

^Data....Of course!!! The events in "Measure of a Man" and how Dr. Pulaski treated him like he was just a machine. She even pronounced his name wrong after he corrected her.

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 2:44 am

In a different form, yes.  Racism between humans is over, but we're still racist outside our own species.

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 3:10 am

Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 26 2010, 3:04 am)
Probably not in the 24th century, by that point we've been expossed to "aliens" for several hundred years.

A more personal form of bgotry is more likely, take Chief O'brien's dislike of Cardassians. That's born of personal experience not ignorance.

I would have to disagree with you.

Even Ben Sisko showed some distane for the Frengie and didnt like his son being friends with Nog....at first.

And I believe O'Brien told Ben he should find an other friend for Jake.

I would say that prejudices still exsists....even if its mild and easy to over come.

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 11:09 am

between humans and hostile aliens...yes there is a lot of racism in trek.

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Report this Mar. 29 2010, 9:33 pm

Humans don't claim to be racist against other aliens, as long as they're segregated from evolved species who are part of the Federation. :p

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Report this Mar. 30 2010, 1:10 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 27 2010, 3:10 am)
Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 26 2010, 3:04 am)
Probably not in the 24th century, by that point we've been expossed to "aliens" for several hundred years.

A more personal form of bgotry is more likely, take Chief O'brien's dislike of Cardassians. That's born of personal experience not ignorance.

I would have to disagree with you.

Even Ben Sisko showed some distane for the Frengie and didnt like his son being friends with Nog....at first.

And I believe O'Brien told Ben he should find an other friend for Jake.

I would say that prejudices still exsists....even if its mild and easy to over come.

That's a good example with Sisko and Nog, Stovokor. But I like how Star Trek shows our characters dealing with these prejudices. They ultimately confront their issues and reevaluate their behavior to generally positive ends. Sisko ended up sponsoring Nog's Starfleet application, and came to care for him as shown in "The Siege of AR558". "The Wounded" showed Chief O'Brien acknowledging his hatred for himself, because of what the Cardassians made him do during the war. Kirk's moment was in TUC when he said, "I was used to hating Klingons. It never even occurred to me take Gorkon at his word... (and later) Gorkon had to die before I understood how prejudice I was." Then of course Archer's reasoning for requesting T'Pol to stay aboard ENT was his desire to overcome preconceptions and holding grudges. So even though prejudices and racism exist, the characters have the tools and are willing to combat those tendencies.

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Report this Mar. 30 2010, 1:16 pm

Quote (lostshaker @ Mar. 30 2010, 1:10 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 27 2010, 3:10 am)
Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 26 2010, 3:04 am)
Probably not in the 24th century, by that point we've been expossed to "aliens" for several hundred years.

A more personal form of bgotry is more likely, take Chief O'brien's dislike of Cardassians. That's born of personal experience not ignorance.

I would have to disagree with you.

Even Ben Sisko showed some distane for the Frengie and didnt like his son being friends with Nog....at first.

And I believe O'Brien told Ben he should find an other friend for Jake.

I would say that prejudices still exsists....even if its mild and easy to over come.

That's a good example with Sisko and Nog, Stovokor. But I like how Star Trek shows our characters dealing with these prejudices. They ultimately confront their issues and reevaluate their behavior to generally positive ends. Sisko ended up sponsoring Nog's Starfleet application, and came to care for him as shown in "The Siege of AR558". "The Wounded" showed Chief O'Brien acknowledging his hatred for himself, because of what the Cardassians made him do during the war. Kirk's moment was in TUC when he said, "I was used to hating Klingons. It never even occurred to me take Gorkon at his word... (and later) Gorkon had to die before I understood how prejudice I was." Then of course Archer's reasoning for requesting T'Pol to stay aboard ENT was his desire to overcome preconceptions and holding grudges. So even though prejudices and racism exist, the characters have the tools and are willing to combat those tendencies.

Thats pretty much what I ment by "easy to over come".

But you put it in far better words then I.

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Report this Mar. 30 2010, 2:37 pm

Quote (Yanks @ Mar. 30 2010, 2:20 pm)
Sure, there will always be folks out there that hate white people for being successfull.

No they hate white people for being successfull.....by causing the suffering of others.

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