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Stop Abrams-bring Berman back!

Formwandler30

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 2:39 pm

I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

Narada

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 3:10 pm

The Berman era was great but I do not feel it will return. I think Abrams did a good job with the movie and also has the skills required to make the sequels or even a tv series. Manny Coto is also a good suggestion and Bryan Singer also expresses an interest in a Star Trek tv show. Between all those possibilities I think Star Trek is in good hands.

:cool:

DammitJim6200

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 3:16 pm

Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 22 2010, 3:39 pm)
I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

I know my dear comrade, I know how you feel...We all know that ego diven rat JJ Abrams made all the wrong moves  in The Star Trek movie..
Unfortunately that Goof-fest was a hit, so we're left out..FOR now...
Until better days come, we have the novels, independent films and Star Trek online..
Keep hoping.   :(

cptdon

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 3:33 pm

Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 23 2010, 2:39 pm)
I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

Look, you are not alone in your distaste of JJ and his new Trek, but I don't want to go back to the murders of Trek. Now that they have rebooted (for a lack of better term) the series, I am willing to give the man a chance to make a movie that us a full story in his established "universe."

captbates

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 3:59 pm

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Mar. 22 2010, 8:16 pm)
Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 22 2010, 3:39 pm)
I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

I know my dear comrade, I know how you feel...We all know that ego diven rat JJ Abrams made all the wrong moves ¿in The Star Trek movie..
Unfortunately that Goof-fest was a hit, so we're left out..FOR now...
Until better days come, we have the novels, independent films and Star Trek online..
Keep hoping. ¿ :(

Nice Sig DJ  :D


Of course, Treks in a much worse situation today than it was 5 years ago, huh.  :O

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 4:27 pm

JJ Abrams breathed new life into Star Trek and that is true whether or not you like him or the movie.

Whether one likes or dislikes the direction Star Trek is going in is a personal opinion and I personally like the direction this movie is going.

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 5:44 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Mar. 22 2010, 11:50 pm)
Sorry new guy...welcome aboard and hope you'll stay a while.

I doubt you'll find many that want Berman back. He did good with Trek for a while, but in the end almost put it six feet under.

Abrams, unfortunately, knows what it takes to sell Trek in the movies today...big on flash, short on story, but if you take the time to digest it, AND keep in mind it's a different timeline, the story isn't THAT bad...there's been worse in Trek before. I'll take ST:XI over "Spock's Brain" or "Threshold" any day.

"They think the last movie was a hit, maybe"? Dude, get real...as far as Star Trek movies go, it was an unqualified success, the best return on a Trek film since ST:TMP.

:logical:

LoL how come everyone always hates on "spock's brain"?

SLagonia

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 6:20 pm

Hmm...  Do I want someone who actively spits on my face and tells me to like it, or someone who is so incompetant his movies give me brain damage?

Can i vote for a third party?

cptdon

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 6:35 pm

Quote (PhantomCrunk007 @ Mar. 23 2010, 5:44 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Mar. 22 2010, 11:50 pm)
Sorry new guy...welcome aboard and hope you'll stay a while.

I doubt you'll find many that want Berman back. He did good with Trek for a while, but in the end almost put it six feet under.

Abrams, unfortunately, knows what it takes to sell Trek in the movies today...big on flash, short on story, but if you take the time to digest it, AND keep in mind it's a different timeline, the story isn't THAT bad...there's been worse in Trek before. I'll take ST:XI over "Spock's Brain" or "Threshold" any day.

"They think the last movie was a hit, maybe"? Dude, get real...as far as Star Trek movies go, it was an unqualified success, the best return on a Trek film since ST:TMP.

:logical:

LoL how come everyone always hates on "spock's brain"?

I know, there is nothing wrong with "Spock Brain"!

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 6:46 pm

Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 23 2010, 2:39 pm)
I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

Are you crazy? Berman brought down Trek because he and Braga got burnt out on Trek. Sorry but most of the general public doesn't know about DS9 and you need them for a Trek movie to be a hit at the box office. That is why the new movie was a hit. You had both Trek fans and non Trek fans who saw the movie because through word of mouth that the movie was great. Berman and Braga were good up until Voyager and started to loose then. Coto turned Enterprise around because he was new but a Trek fan.

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 6:47 pm

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Mar. 23 2010, 3:16 pm)
Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 22 2010, 3:39 pm)
I think Star Trek is on a wrong Way wit Abrams-bring Berman back!
He know Star Trek, how it should be, he made all new Series and Films, its a shame that Berman was fired. He made Star Trek after Gene to this what it is Today. Abrams and Co dont understand how Star Trek works. I want to see a TNG, or a DS 9 Movie, if Paramount do another Abrams Movie its to late for the Actors (Brooks and Stewart said that). Here in Germany many Fans think the same, its a shame that no one on Paramount hear what the Fans would like to see-only want to make Money. I know the they dont stop to do Star Trek XII with Abrams, because they think the last Movie was a Hit, maybe. But only for non Star Trek Fans, i think there are many Fans who think the same like me. They dont care for real Fans, they said that many times before. They are only interested to make Trek for main stream, but thats the wrong way. I want to see Star Trek in Future, like TNG and DS9, no past Movie with Khan or something like that in the next Movie.

Bring Berman back and make good-real Star Trek Movies!
Stop make only Money-the Storys are importent!!!

I hope that some of you are with me, so i wanna hear your positions?

I know my dear comrade, I know how you feel...We all know that ego diven rat JJ Abrams made all the wrong moves ¿in The Star Trek movie..
Unfortunately that Goof-fest was a hit, so we're left out..FOR now...
Until better days come, we have the novels, independent films and Star Trek online..
Keep hoping. ¿ :(

:eyesroll:  :eyesroll:  :eyesroll:

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 9:33 pm

In the end, not only did Berman take Trek and set it on fire, he peed on the ashes afterward. Seriously, TATV felt like a gigantic bird being flipped to the fans. And Nemesis was inexcusably awful. If that was the best thing that man could produce (and keep in mind, he hyped up Shinzon as the most awesome villain since Khan), then he needed to go.

Personally, I'd like to see what RDM would do with a Trek series but judging on his commentaries/podcasts, a high-technology series like Star Trek is the last thing he wants to do. In fact, he specifically referenced the Enterprise bridge when talking about the design of Galactica's CIC, contrasting the two command centers.

DammitJim6200

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 9:57 pm

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 22 2010, 10:33 pm)
In the end, not only did Berman take Trek and set it on fire, he peed on the ashes afterward. Seriously, TATV felt like a gigantic bird being flipped to the fans. And Nemesis was inexcusably awful. If that was the best thing that man could produce (and keep in mind, he hyped up Shinzon as the most awesome villain since Khan), then he needed to go.

Personally, I'd like to see what RDM would do with a Trek series but judging on his commentaries/podcasts, a high-technology series like Star Trek is the last thing he wants to do. In fact, he specifically referenced the Enterprise bridge when talking about the design of Galactica's CIC, contrasting the two command centers.

Ron Moore may have written a few good episodes, but I don't think he's capable of "saving " Star Trek, Star Trek is more than space battles, hot chicks, doom and gloom and.....Sex.  
Rick Berman knew the big picture, he really seered the franchise into it's glory days. :honorable:

Formwandler30

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 9:59 pm

Manny Coto, is this a Joke?

Wasnt he on 4th Season of Enterprise, and wasnt this the last Season of it before they closed it? All said this time he was on Season 4, hes good, and what is happen?

I see, Star Trek is lost, what i read here-its better to make stupid Popcorn Movies than good Star Trek Films.

Yeah Star Trek has no Future, Abrams you made it, all "new" Fans are with you.

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 10:06 pm

Quote (Formwandler30 @ Mar. 22 2010, 10:59 pm)
I see, Star Trek is lost, what i read here-its better to make stupid Popcorn Movies than good Star Trek Films.

Yeah Star Trek has no Future, Abrams you made it, all "new" Fans are with you.

Thanks for sharing your opinion but I respectfully disagree with it. I think Star Trek is headed in the right direction. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie and anticipate with excitement the next movie.

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