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If you were designing starships...

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 4:08 am

For much of Trek this is the classic Starfleet starship design, a saucer section, engineering section, and two nacelles.

But, what would you do if the job of designing starships was your's?

Imagine an alternate reality if you like, where a different design standard exists and propose the kind of ship you'd build.

A mate of mine recently pitched a "flying wing" starship with ventral & dorsal nacelles. It sounds interesting, but I'll reserve judgement until he gets off his backside and does some pics.

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 9:04 am

Well what are the mission profiles.  We need to have a job for the ship to do because long range cargo transport has different needs than an orbital patrol craft.

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 7:45 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Mar. 23 2010, 8:41 am)
First orders of business:

Safety
Durability
Efficiency

Worry about aesthetics later.

:logical:

Show us what you design.  ;)

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Report this Mar. 23 2010, 8:44 pm

I would remove the bridge from the top of the saucer and place it further into the ship to protect it.

In the OP, Zero's friend likes the flying wing design (like the Defiant) and I agree. Integrating the nacelles into the ship presents less profile and makes them much better protected than if they are sticking out from long pylons at odd angles.

I want the Ent-A deflector or something with a similar color. That thing is like a shining jewel and I like pretty bling. And make my warp core Voyager, which can also double as nightclub decor.

Lastly, ballistic weapons to complement the phasers are a must; when radiation of the week or other subspace technobabble renders them useless, you can always fall back on old fashoined chemical propelled shells. Also useful for turning the Borg into Swiss cheese since they cannot adapt to kinetic force.

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Report this Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am

I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

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Report this Mar. 25 2010, 3:46 am

Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am)
I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

LOL...no kidding. A crewman standing next to a viewport would have made a huge difference in the Mutara Nebula battle scene.  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

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Report this Mar. 25 2010, 4:02 am

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 25 2010, 3:46 am)
Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am)
I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

LOL...no kidding. A crewman standing next to a viewport would have made a huge difference in the Mutara Nebula battle scene. ¿:laugh: ¿:laugh: ¿:laugh:

Would they?

Consider both distance and visibility.

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Report this Mar. 25 2010, 8:35 pm

Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 25 2010, 4:02 am)
Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 25 2010, 3:46 am)
Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am)
I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

LOL...no kidding. A crewman standing next to a viewport would have made a huge difference in the Mutara Nebula battle scene. ?:laugh: ?:laugh: ?:laugh:

Would they?

Consider both distance and visibility.

As the Enterprise is limping away from Reliant, Kirk asks the distance from Reliant and Chekov says 5000km. The audience can clearly see both ships, so I assume distance would be slightly over 5000km for there to be visbility from a window.

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Report this Mar. 26 2010, 1:37 am

Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 8:35 pm)
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Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 25 2010, 3:46 am)
Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am)
I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

LOL...no kidding. A crewman standing next to a viewport would have made a huge difference in the Mutara Nebula battle scene. ?:laugh: ?:laugh: ?:laugh:

Would they?

Consider both distance and visibility.

As the Enterprise is limping away from Reliant, Kirk asks the distance from Reliant and Chekov says 5000km. The audience can clearly see both ships, so I assume distance would be slightly over 5000km for there to be visbility from a window.

The audience can also see into the Reliant's bridge, I don't think what we can see can be used as evidense for what a crewman looking out a window can see.

Plus, at 5000km, would you be able to see anything usefull?

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Report this Mar. 27 2010, 3:30 am

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 23 2010, 8:44 pm)
In the OP, Zero's friend likes the flying wing design (like the Defiant) and I agree. Integrating the nacelles into the ship presents less profile and makes them much better protected than if they are sticking out from long pylons at odd angles.

That's not really true.

If an attacker goes "up" or "down" you're one big target again.

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Report this Mar. 28 2010, 2:54 pm

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 23 2010, 8:44 pm)
In the OP, Zero's friend likes the flying wing design (like the Defiant) and I agree. Integrating the nacelles into the ship presents less profile and makes them much better protected than if they are sticking out from long pylons at odd angles.

At ranges of thousands of kilometers, with computer-targeting, would the ship's profile actually matter? The guy at the tactical console can lock on to your ship's engines regardless of whether they're out on pylons or tucked up under the ship's belly. They're not aiming their photon torpedoes by hand, are they?

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Report this Mar. 29 2010, 2:21 am

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 25 2010, 3:46 am)
Quote (williamslakesm @ Mar. 25 2010, 12:31 am)
I'd put windows on the bridge. Would be quite useful for a battle in the Mutara Nebula!

LOL...no kidding. A crewman standing next to a viewport would have made a huge difference in the Mutara Nebula battle scene. ¿:laugh: ¿:laugh: ¿:laugh:

Um, a window wouldn't help your ship though!?

You said you'd move the bridge inside the ship.

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Report this Mar. 29 2010, 2:29 am

Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 27 2010, 3:30 am)
Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 23 2010, 8:44 pm)
In the OP, Zero's friend likes the flying wing design (like the Defiant) and I agree. Integrating the nacelles into the ship presents less profile and makes them much better protected than if they are sticking out from long pylons at odd angles.

That's not really true.

If an attacker goes "up" or "down" you're one big target again.

You don't actually expect the Defiant to just sit there, no? Even if an attacker had a vantage point from up above, there aren't big warp nacelles sticking out with a sign saying "shoot me."

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Report this Mar. 29 2010, 2:32 am

Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 29 2010, 2:29 am)
Quote (ZeroZeroZero @ Mar. 27 2010, 3:30 am)
Quote (Lucifer_ @ Mar. 23 2010, 8:44 pm)
In the OP, Zero's friend likes the flying wing design (like the Defiant) and I agree. Integrating the nacelles into the ship presents less profile and makes them much better protected than if they are sticking out from long pylons at odd angles.

That's not really true.

If an attacker goes "up" or "down" you're one big target again.

You don't actually expect the Defiant to just sit there, no? Even if an attacker had a vantage point from up above, there aren't big warp nacelles sticking out with a sign saying "shoot me."

Why would you even shoot at them, the Defiant's bridge is the centre of the bullseye!

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Report this Mar. 29 2010, 9:24 pm

Not on my ship, bee-ATCH!!! :cool: :laugh: :D

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