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What If The Enterprise Went Through

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 11:14 am

Or would it survive and be torn to shreds like the Narada?

Please no joking in this thread.

I wonder if they would have arrived in Spock Prime's 24th Century Universe?

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 11:31 am

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:14 am)
Or would it survive and be torn to shreds like the Narada?

Please no joking in this thread.

I wonder if they would have arrived in Spock Prime's 24th Century Universe?

I doubt they would have ended up in the future.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 11:33 am

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:31 am)
Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:14 am)
Or would it survive and be torn to shreds like the Narada?

Please no joking in this thread.

I wonder if they would have arrived in Spock Prime's 24th Century Universe?

I doubt they would have ended up in the future.

I wonder if it would have ended up in the 23rd Century Prime Universe and they met the other Enterprise?

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 2:05 pm

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:33 am)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:31 am)
Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 11:14 am)
Or would it survive and be torn to shreds like the Narada?

Please no joking in this thread.

I wonder if they would have arrived in Spock Prime's 24th Century Universe?

I doubt they would have ended up in the future.

I wonder if it would have ended up in the 23rd Century Prime Universe and they met the other Enterprise?

Theres no reason to believe thats even possible.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 2:21 pm

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 20 2010, 4:14 pm)
Or would it survive and be torn to shreds like the Narada?

Please no joking in this thread.

I wonder if they would have arrived in Spock Prime's 24th Century Universe?

Spaghettification then ripped appart by gravitational forces.  ;)

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm

I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm

Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 5:39 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

Maybe the Red Matter causes time travel?

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 5:40 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Mar. 21 2010, 12:33 pm)
A black hole is not a hole and is almost the exact opposite of a wormhole. Nothing can go through a black hole.

Sorry I should have said through the Singularity. I looked up some theory's and they say the Singularity in the Black Hole is a Space-Time Singularity. Maybe Abrams, Orci and Kurtzman used that theory for Nero's Time Travel?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_singularity

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 6:48 pm

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:39 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

Maybe the Red Matter causes time travel?

I dont mean to sound rude but I pretty much explained this to you some time ago on an other thread.

The Hobis star fueled the event.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 8:09 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 6:48 pm)
Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:39 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

Maybe the Red Matter causes time travel?

I dont mean to sound rude but I pretty much explained this to you some time ago on an other thread.

The Hobis star fueled the event.

Sorry I didn't remember that.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 8:34 pm

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 8:09 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 6:48 pm)
Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:39 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

Maybe the Red Matter causes time travel?

I dont mean to sound rude but I pretty much explained this to you some time ago on an other thread.

The Hobis star fueled the event.

Sorry I didn't remember that.

Dont worry about it.

Basicly it was a combination of events from the energies of the Hobis star and the artificial singularity that caused a rip in the space time continuum.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 9:08 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:07 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 5:00 pm)
I find it all funny, because we really no nothing about how black holes really work. There are some people that do math and speculate, but there are no hard facts about black holes. We have never been in one nor seen anything come out of one.

Sooooo, that being the case. With the story they set up in the movie, the Enterprise would have had a chance to go somewhere. I my opinion they would have had to do it before ejecting their engines though.

Actually the senerio set up in the film does not support the idea that they could have gone somewhere.

It appears that you, like many others, got the impression that it was the Black whole "ALONE" that caused the time travel event.

But thats not the case.

Sure but this was not just some random black hole, it was created with the same stuff as what was used for time travel. That said, as silly as it may sound, there is potential for a story there. I don't know if it is a good one, but a story none the less.

I would just assume they be done with it and move on, but it is not out of the realm of imagination that it COULD be done. I forgot the milk the other day but could not get my car to slingshot around the sun to go back in time to get it, so I am bitter about the "hole" thing.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 10:02 pm

Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 9:08 pm)
Sure but this was not just some random black hole, it was created with the same stuff as what was used for time travel.

No it was not.

As I said before you are operating under a false impression.

It was not the "RED MATTER" that created the time rift.

It was the combination of the ever increasing energies of the Hobis star and the artificial singularity.Its been done before.

That said, there is NO potential for a story there.

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Report this Mar. 21 2010, 10:35 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 21 2010, 10:02 pm)
Quote (cptdon @ Mar. 21 2010, 9:08 pm)
Sure but this was not just some random black hole, it was created with the same stuff as what was used for time travel.

No it was not.

As I said before you are operating under a false impression.

It was not the "RED MATTER" that created the time rift.

It was the combination of the ever increasing energies of the Hobis star and the artificial singularity.Its been done before.

That said, there is NO potential for a story there.

OK, fine, that makes sense. So they go into the black hole and come out in a different universe all together. The Enterprise and crew fight valiantly to deal with life in this new universe and fail. Then this time-line is gone forever... we then get TNG: The Animated Series! Why because i am watching TAS right now and loving almost every minute of it!

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