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Mar. 19 2010, 10:39 pm
| Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 18 2010, 11:33 pm) | | Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Mar. 19 2010, 9:40 pm) | | Quote (grigori @ Mar. 18 2010, 10:29 pm) | | Quote (Cruervo @ Mar. 19 2010, 9:25 pm) | | Quote (grigori @ Mar. 18 2010, 10:24 pm) | | Quote (Cruervo @ Mar. 19 2010, 9:02 pm) | | Quote (grigori @ Mar. 18 2010, 10:00 pm) | | That one documentary was sort of provocative--where they set the trap with the nails in the board and got what they thought were blood/hair samples of the resident Bigfoot. And DNA-wise it tested just one or two, I don't recall, DNA markers from human, like 99.9%, but no known human had shown that much deviation. Chimps, the next most human-like, were way farther off than that. |
I've always wondered, was there a chimp genome project too? Of course, "scientists" have been asserting that chimps were 96% similar to humans since before the human genome project was even conceived. |
Good point. We know such a small fraction of what's to be known. And the Bigfeet could just be the extremely anti-social humans among us--or not among us, as the case may be. So they would be reasonably intelligent. |
I like the idea of a group of large anti-social humans. |
And the hairiness could be the 2-3 gene markers. But they're never said to be spotted in groups...A couple of "pair" spottings I think, and that one wild story about someone "kidnapped" and witnessing a Bigfoot family.
I just sit around and half-watch these documentaries sometimes and bits of stories soak in.
But Bigfoot is one of those phenomenon that has sprung up independently all around the world, and since very long times ago. |
I've seen that documentary too, the explorers said those hair samples from the nail, definitely weren't from no bear or man in an ape suit,
and don't forget that Patterson film from 1967..
till this day no one can prove that to be a fake. |
Except Patterson himself.
Near his death he started telling conflicting stories about that film.
Some reports have him recanting the story as as hoax while others say he held to his original story till his death.
I dont think we can rely on that film all that much. |
There are two points to be made. One, when the man was dieing, his family was still receiving a lot of ridicule over that. He may have said that just to release his family. Two, have you ever seen even a high grossing movie of that era have that good of a costume? Who was it that they knew that was that large and could walk in that manner. However, I must point out that the vast majority of believable big foot sightings was by people that weren't out looking for him. This provokes the idea that maybe they have an instinct for people looking for them. |
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Mar. 19 2010, 11:25 pm
Theres enough eye witness accounts from the Carrier and Chilcotin people of British Columbia to say that something is out in the Coastal Mountains that resembles bigfoot. Those areas are so remote though, it doesn't get a lot of media attention.
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Mar. 19 2010, 11:26 pm
| Quote (Cruervo @ Mar. 19 2010, 10:39 pm) | | There are two points to be made. One, when the man was dieing, his family was still receiving a lot of ridicule over that. He may have said that just to release his family. |
True enough. But regardless, his recanting raised doubt in the validity of the film, no matter what his reasons for recanting may have been. | Quote |
Two, have you ever seen even a high grossing movie of that era have that good of a costume? Who was it that they knew that was that large and could walk in that manner. |
While I agree it would have been difficult it would not have been impossible. As a matter of fact I saw a docamentury that was done trying to mimic those exact condistions. They used costume making techniques and materials of the time, they used the same camera and film that Paterson did. And they concluded that a hoax at the time was very possible. The only part that they said was the most difficult was micing how such a Primate might walk. |
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Mar. 19 2010, 11:48 pm
| Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 19 2010, 11:26 pm) | | The only part that they said was the most difficult was micing how such a Primate might walk. |
Didn't yet another documentary point out that the creature in the Patterson film did in fact walk like a primate of that weight and proportions? Or was it the opposite--they concluded it walked like a human in a costume?  Or both? The most recent documentary I think I saw on the topic was about the Bigfoot of rural, Eastern Texas. |
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Mar. 19 2010, 11:54 pm
| Quote (grigori @ Mar. 19 2010, 11:48 pm) | | Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 19 2010, 11:26 pm) | | The only part that they said was the most difficult was micing how such a Primate might walk. |
Didn't yet another documentary point out that the creature in the Patterson film did in fact walk like a primate of that weight and proportions?
Or was it the opposite--they concluded it walked like a human in a costume?
Or both?
The most recent documentary I think I saw on the topic was about the Bigfoot of rural, Eastern Texas. |
Yes, thats why I said they claimed the walk was difficult to hoax. Difficult but not impossible by the means of the time. |
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Mar. 20 2010, 12:17 am
| Quote (Cruervo @ Mar. 18 2010, 7:32 pm) | | I dont find it extremely hard to think of a North American primate. |
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Mar. 20 2010, 2:18 am
My dad is bigfoot. But shhhh! Don't tell anyone!  |
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Mar. 20 2010, 5:02 am
No film will ever prove the existence of anything, we need a body, dead or alive. And frankly if it comes to killing one to prove it exists then it isn't worth it.
"Let the shadows of the darker forrests be, they shall come to us in their own gentle time"
I remember as a kid watching the Legend of Boggy Creek, this fake documentary about this bigfoot style 'fouk' monster prowling around Arkansas, scared the hell out of me!
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Mar. 20 2010, 10:33 am
| Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Mar. 19 2010, 5:27 pm) | Bigfoot known as Sasquach is know to inhabit the North West of the U.S, a family of Bigfoot was seen in the Nevada mountains, does he exist ? I'm hoping to find out
WHO BELIEVES in him or seen him ? seriously ? |
This sounds like your thread about the Apollo moon landings being staged.  But, as to the question, no, Bigfoot doesn't exist. |
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Mar. 20 2010, 10:39 am
| Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Mar. 19 2010, 5:52 pm) | [
He was a good guest star on 'The Six Million Dollar Man" |
Those were great! ?  I really liked the Bigfoot episodes! ?That was Ted "Ruk" and "Lurch" Cassidy!   |
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Mar. 20 2010, 12:28 pm
| Quote (rocketscientist @ Mar. 20 2010, 10:33 am) | | But, as to the question, no, Bigfoot doesn't exist. |
the way Schrodinger's cat does (potentially but perpetually unproven existence) |
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Mar. 20 2010, 2:55 pm
| Quote (rocketscientist @ Mar. 20 2010, 10:33 am) | | Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Mar. 19 2010, 5:27 pm) | Bigfoot known as Sasquach is know to inhabit the North West of the U.S, a family of Bigfoot was seen in the Nevada mountains, does he exist ? I'm hoping to find out
WHO BELIEVES in him or seen him ? seriously ? |
This sounds like your thread about the Apollo moon landings being staged. ¿
But, as to the question, no, Bigfoot doesn't exist. |
Might I ask how you can state that with such certainty??? |
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Mar. 20 2010, 3:15 pm
| Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 19 2010, 12:54 am) | | Quote (grigori @ Mar. 19 2010, 11:48 pm) | | Quote (stovokor2000 @ Mar. 19 2010, 11:26 pm) | | The only part that they said was the most difficult was micing how such a Primate might walk. |
Didn't yet another documentary point out that the creature in the Patterson film did in fact walk like a primate of that weight and proportions?
Or was it the opposite--they concluded it walked like a human in a costume?
Or both?
The most recent documentary I think I saw on the topic was about the Bigfoot of rural, Eastern Texas. |
Yes, thats why I said they claimed the walk was difficult to hoax.
Difficult but not impossible by the means of the time. |
But you still got to admit, if it WAS a man in a costume the costume is very complex, the people who did the make-up for the Planet Of The Apes movie couldn't even make a suit like that at that time, even Disney studios which had the best costume makers in the world at the time don't know how it was done, Why would anyone go to such lengths to make a costume like that even with BREASTS for a 2 minute piece of film ?  |
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Mar. 20 2010, 3:26 pm
I've been married to a "big foot" for almost seventeen years. He wears a size 12D. Wouldn't he count as being a "big foot"? |
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Mar. 20 2010, 3:34 pm
Bigfoot just wears these. 
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