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Matthias Russell

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Report this Apr. 03 2011, 2:39 pm

I think the Caeliar are gone for good and I think that is the way they should be.


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Report this Apr. 03 2011, 3:14 pm

Quote: Promethea @ Apr. 03 2011, 1:10 pm

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>The Caeliar worked great for this purpose but personally, I'm happy not to see them again or at least for quite some years. Basically it was time to shift the Borg off-stage and if they return even in Caeliar form, it would feel like too much of a retread. Time for some new stories, but we can always have the awareness that they are out there, with all their new powers and the dangers of that, for sometime in the future.

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Well, if we wait for few years on them, they'll definitely never show up again; the Destiny storyline would fade from memory by then.. it gotta be within a year or so, while its still fresh on people's minds.


 


Wouldnt you want to read about their adventures with their Great Work? and how Erica copes? and the Caeliar as a whole with all the Assimilated Borg?


Also was left unfinished, is why did they not take 7of9 with them? as I understand it, they took all of the borg who wanted to be part of Perfection (the Omega molecule) - and she wanted to be part of that... she never felt at ease being indvidual without any collective link, her joining the Caeliar was suppose to be the natural next step for her


 


What else will the Federation's expert on the Borg do now, without any Borg?

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Report this Apr. 03 2011, 3:41 pm

Quote: Carmageddon @ Apr. 03 2011, 3:14 pm

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>Also was left unfinished, is why did they not take 7of9 with them? as I understand it, they took all of the borg who wanted to be part of Perfection (the Omega molecule) - and she wanted to be part of that... she never felt at ease being indvidual without any collective link, her joining the Caeliar was suppose to be the natural next step for her

>What else will the Federation's expert on the Borg do now, without any Borg?

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The Voyager Novels, "Full Circle", "Unworthy", etc. actually do get into what happens next for Seven/Anika and what impact missing out on Caeliar 'perfection' has on her character.  

Matthias Russell

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Report this Apr. 04 2011, 5:04 am

Yeah, I felt the VOY books explained Seven's condition quite well. They reinforced to me that the Caeliar and Borg are gone but did leave open a means of further contact since seven has inactive Caeliar technology in her. It could always be reactivated. I think the books have moved on to other things, though.

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Report this May. 19 2011, 9:43 am

I've got to agree with Mike. I'm only 13 and yet I couldn't put them down they were so good . One of the things that I especially like about the trilogy was  that there was an emotional story inserted in there. I found that really nice.

Matthias Russell

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Report this May. 19 2011, 10:54 am

I was shocked at how well so many different novel chains were connected into one story without any of them suffering.  I felt satisfied with the ENT, TNG, and Titan involvement.  David Mack had a lot of characters to master and did them all well in my book.

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Report this May. 19 2011, 12:52 pm

Been a month and half since I asked, so perhaps time to ask again - any followup to Paths of Disharmony yet?


 


Sadly there is no chronological index of ST books, so I am forced to ask in the forum, I hope someone knows?

Matthias Russell

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Report this May. 19 2011, 2:15 pm

Nope. Nothing I've seen in the forecast for the next year either. Prob gonna a while before we revisit tng or ds9.

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Report this May. 19 2011, 2:16 pm

If you would like good info and book discussions, go to trekbbs.com. More readers there and the authors regularly contribute to the forums.

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Report this May. 19 2011, 5:14 pm

I thought bring Erika Hernandez was both great and a little sucky. Good because it set up a great twist and I always found her to be a great character, who also makes Janice Lester look even more silly.


It upset me somewhat because now I won't get to see her in the Romulan War novels.


"Aye. And if my grandmother had wheels she'd be a wagon." - Scotty, The Miracle Worker since 2265.

Matthias Russell

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Report this May. 23 2011, 5:44 am

True, her inclusion was bitter-sweet.  I enjoyed how she always wondered what happened to Archer and since she found out, we know has his future turned out, too.  Besides, I wouldn't completely count the Caeliar and Hernandez out for the future.  She believes the Caeliar should act when a major threat appears, so she could return to help again.


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Report this Jun. 12 2011, 4:41 pm

Yeah, but then I worry how that return would be handled. The Trilogy was so well done and had such a nice ending, I wouldn't want a return were all the sacrifice gets negated just to bring them back.


Plus, like most TOS one time baddies of the week, they are so powerful that it's hard to write them without having the story be affected. Same deal with Superman stories for example. He's so powerful you gotta go for Lois or else you don't really have a realistic chance of even denting him.


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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 4:38 pm

For those of you who have read Book 1 in the trilogy maybe you can help me understand something Im a little confused. When the columbia is damaged after being attacked by the romulans they set a course for the alien planet for repairs and when they arrived they said they traveled twelve years in two months. Did I miss the part of them entering one of those corriders or something? Please explain.

David Mack

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Report this Jun. 14 2011, 10:56 pm

^ It's called time dilation, and it's a documented phenomenon in real physics.


Accelerating to just shy of the speed of light, without actually attaining it, results in the traveler experiencing time differently from those not traveling at extreme velocity.


In the context of the story in Gods of Night, from the point of view of an observer on Earth, 12 years would pass while the Columbia travelled at an extremely high percentage of the speed of light (c) by using its impulse engines. From the point of view of the Columbia's crew, however, only two months would seem to pass, because they would experience time differently due to their extreme acceleration.


Albert Einstein explained this theory by means of what he termed the Twin Paradox.


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Report this Jun. 15 2011, 1:51 am

David! nice to see you are survived the Mess


 


Do you know when can we expect the next book dealing with that Mess? I also expect that at some point, Andor will also be returned to its place in the Federation - is that going to happen this year?


If not, I fear it'll be forgotten later, and the story would never be finished...

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