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"No Bark" Collars

AngelOfShadows

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Report this Mar. 15 2010, 2:30 am

Quote (Nachtkommen @ Mar. 15 2010, 2:29 am)
Quote (AngelOfShadows @ Mar. 15 2010, 2:28 am)
Ain't happenin'. :p

Please? ¿I enjoy seeing women in pain.

You wouldn't deny me that, would you??

I am already in pain. :p

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Mar. 15 2010, 12:35 pm

Quote (AngelOfShadows @ Mar. 13 2010, 11:08 pm)
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Okay, this is a genuine question, because I've never heard of these collars before...but how do you know it doesn't hurt him? Or aggravate him at least?

Because I did a lot of research on them before I committed to buying one. The "shock" it gives is no more painful than the static shock you get when you drag your feet on the carpet and then touch someone...or touch something metal.

Also, if something hurts him, he has a very specific extremely high pitched yelp. :)

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

I'll admit that my knee-jerk reaction to this thread was that it sounded cruel, but like I said, I'll admit to never having heard of these collars before, and I am also not a dog owner myself, so it's good to learn more about it.

AngelOfShadows

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Report this Mar. 15 2010, 12:37 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Mar. 15 2010, 12:35 pm)
Quote (AngelOfShadows @ Mar. 13 2010, 11:08 pm)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Mar. 14 2010, 6:03 pm)
Okay, this is a genuine question, because I've never heard of these collars before...but how do you know it doesn't hurt him? Or aggravate him at least?

Because I did a lot of research on them before I committed to buying one. The "shock" it gives is no more painful than the static shock you get when you drag your feet on the carpet and then touch someone...or touch something metal.

Also, if something hurts him, he has a very specific extremely high pitched yelp. :)

Okay, thanks for clarifying.

I'll admit that my knee-jerk reaction to this thread was that it sounded cruel, but like I said, I'll admit to never having heard of these collars before, and I am also not a dog owner myself, so it's good to learn more about it.

It definitely wasn't our first choice, but it was stop the barking or face the possibility of being told to get rid of our dog. :(

IVHoltzman

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Report this Mar. 16 2010, 12:47 am

Quote (Corwin8 @ Mar. 14 2010, 1:13 pm)
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Quote (AngelOfShadows @ Mar. 13 2010, 9:14 pm)
I know! He had this confused look on his face when we came back to the car. "WHAT JUST HAPPENED TO ME?!?"

But they pick up very quickly on the cause-and-effect. I'm all for the zap collars. I'd even like to see them used on humans with Tourette's Syndrome.

So we zap the handicapped now? ... Not up to your usual standard.

I'm not talking about punishment or entertainment. I'm talking about reprogramming, either at the conscious level or at the nerve level. Remember in the movie Rainman, the scene when Cruise tries to get Hoffman onto the airliner and Hoffman starts beating himself in the head and screaming? Collar time. Light his ass up. And let the collar keep lighting him up until he shuts up and stops hitting himself. Will the dog learn faster than Rainman? Yes. Will Rainman learn eventually? I'm willing to bet yes, because electrical nerve impulses are what drive both the screaming and the headbanging, and electrical collar impulses derail those nerve signals. It's comparable to a pacemaker, which likewise uses electricity to override a different muscle's undesirable behavior.

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