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Based strictly on the new movie tech who wins?

tribblenator999

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Report this Mar. 07 2010, 7:41 pm

Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Mar. 07 2010, 4:42 pm)
Quote (tribblenator999 @ Mar. 05 2010, 10:08 pm)
thank you see. 16 light years in 3 minutes. makes voyager look like a slug.


That's... really strange; how did Nero's incursion cause the Federation to develop warp drive thousands of times faster than the 24th century Prime universe's? However, odd or not, as you rightly say it's canon.


Quote (tribblenator999 @ Mar. 05 2010, 10:08 pm)
who cares. if the plot needs for it the the engineers can make the ships go over the max speed limit and hold it.


That kind of defeats the purpose of the scenario, though; the writers of either franchise can make up anything they please, but if we're to even attempt any sort of analysis of them we have to stick to what has been revealed in canon. In this case, while the increased JJ-Trek warp speeds close the gap, Star Wars would still be faster.

Do you think that there is anything in the JJ-Trek canon which would be able to withstand the scenario I proposed on the previous page, post 18?

star wars weapons yields? sure why not if the new ships are thousands of times faster than 24th century prime trek ships they might as well be several times stronger and pack more weapons.

Vorta_the_point

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Report this Mar. 08 2010, 10:43 am

Quote (tribblenator999 @ Mar. 08 2010, 12:41 am)
star wars weapons yields? sure why not if the new ships are thousands of times faster than 24th century prime trek ships they might as well be several times stronger and pack more weapons.


It doesn't automatically follow on that if they're inexplicably more advanced in one area of technology that they're more advanced in all forms of technology; a scientific breakthrough in warp drive doesn't automatically cause breakthroughs in all other unrelated fields as well.

If we want to argue that their weapons are signifcantly more powerful than their prime universe counterparts then we need to have evidence of them being so, and unfortunately we don't see enough of the weapons in action to be able to determine this.

PhantomCrunk007

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Report this Mar. 08 2010, 8:41 pm

It's a moot point.... They're both make believe.

And to Tin-Man.... Here is the proof it's a moot point.. Whatever your opinion is..... Prove it...





















See.... moot.

Vorta_the_point

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Report this Mar. 08 2010, 9:01 pm

Sorry Crunk, I'm not sure I follow; what bearing does them being make believe have on the ability to find out who would win in a fight between x and y? For example, if I were to start a thread entitled "Who would win in a fist-fight between Quark and Superman?" it wouldn't matter that the two contenders are from different fictional stories, we can still deduce the outcome from what we know about each character and applying logic.

Everything on this message board revolves around a make believe story; that doesn't mean that we can't discuss aspects of Star Trek stories just because they're fictional! ;)

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Report this Mar. 10 2010, 1:12 pm

Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Mar. 07 2010, 10:01 pm)
Sorry Crunk, I'm not sure I follow; what bearing does them being make believe have on the ability to find out who would win in a fight between x and y? For example, if I were to start a thread entitled "Who would win in a fist-fight between Quark and Superman?" it wouldn't matter that the two contenders are from different fictional stories, we can still deduce the outcome from what we know about each character and applying logic.

Everything on this message board revolves around a make believe story; that doesn't mean that we can't discuss aspects of Star Trek stories just because they're fictional! ;)

Don't give him the time of day he's a troll piece of trash...

He seems to be developing the erge to go into my posts and try and start things with me no matter what it is.


The fact that there are at least 3 other active Trek V's poles on this MB started by other members doesn't seem to faze him, he will still say it's moot :eyesroll: (I might add that as of right now he hasn't posted in any of those ranting that it's moot just mine)

Sorry crunky the masses would disagree this type of debate is not moot.

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