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Banned episode?

Ali88

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 1:42 pm

I remember a while back reading something about a TOS episode that apparently got banned in the UK and was never aired on TV once in the UK for over 20 years- from the 60s right through to the 80s- because there were scenes involving violence and torment done to the main characters (Kirk, Spock etc) or something like that

which episode was that?

Lucifer_

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 2:02 pm

"The High Ground" was banned for a while in the UK because a reference to "Irish Unification." They made an edited UK version specifically to take out that line.

TOS: "Patterns of Force" didn't air in Germany until 1999. I don't remember any TOS episodes that had problems in the UK, but this is all I can remember at present.

WilburWood

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 2:54 pm

"Dagger of the Mind," "Mirror, Mirror," "Patterns of Force," "Day of the Dove," "Whom Gods Destroy," "The Cloud Minders" and "Plato's Stepchildren" also had torture scenes.

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 3:57 pm

Quote (WilburWood @ Feb. 17 2010, 4:54 am)
"Dagger of the Mind," "Mirror, Mirror," "Patterns of Force," "Day of the Dove," "Whom Gods Destroy," "The Cloud Minders" and "Plato's Stepchildren" also had torture scenes.

So did 'Spock's Brain' but it was us being tortured  :laugh:

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 4:00 pm

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

SpiritOfFire

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 7:10 pm

I thought the episode where Kirk and Uhura kiss (the first interracial kiss ever) was banned somewhere... in the south of the US, and maybe Britain as well. I'm not sure, since I read the article about it long time ago...

CommodoreSchmidlapp

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 9:37 pm

Quote (WilburWood @ Feb. 16 2010, 11:54 am)
"Dagger of the Mind," "Mirror, Mirror," "Patterns of Force," "Day of the Dove," "Whom Gods Destroy," "The Cloud Minders" and "Plato's Stepchildren" also had torture scenes.

Geez, no wonder I'm so maladjusted... :rookie:

WilburWood

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Report this Feb. 17 2010, 10:03 am

Quote (Mirrorgirl @ Feb. 16 2010, 3:57 pm)
Quote (WilburWood @ Feb. 17 2010, 4:54 am)
"Dagger of the Mind," "Mirror, Mirror," "Patterns of Force," "Day of the Dove," "Whom Gods Destroy," "The Cloud Minders" and "Plato's Stepchildren" also had torture scenes.

So did 'Spock's Brain' but it was us being tortured ¿:laugh:

As we were in "And The Children Shall Lead." :D

sonofspock1

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Report this Feb. 17 2010, 6:31 pm

The Irish Unification line from The High Ground was edited out in the Republic, but the entire episode was never shown in the North until late 2008 or early 2009, when it was shown as past of a festival. But it was availible unedited on video.

Nyackjohn

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Report this Feb. 17 2010, 9:12 pm

sonofspock1, are you from the north? Much of my family still over there is from Omagh and Dungannon in Tyrone.

Could it possibly have been "The Gamesters of Triskellion"? There WAS an attempted rape of Uhura in that one, not to mention our hero kind of slapping Shanna around and people forced to be slaves and fight to the death. I remember an article in "Trek" magazine, probably 20 years ago now that felt the episode went WAY to far, even though it wasn't necessarily explicit about it...

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Feb. 18 2010, 6:06 pm

I doubt The Empath was banned, it was kind of a crappy episode anyway, and it isn;t like the torture scene really showed anything.

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Feb. 18 2010, 6:07 pm

lol...you guys are funny, you are realing out bad TOS episode after bad TOS episode, is that because you wish they were banned.  Season 3 stank up the show no doubt about it.  The only episode I liked during that season was Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Feb. 19 2010, 8:55 am

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 19 2010, 10:46 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ Feb. 18 2010, 6:07 pm)
lol...you guys are funny, you are realing out bad TOS episode after bad TOS episode, is that because you wish they were banned. ?Season 3 stank up the show no doubt about it. ?The only episode I liked during that season was Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

You didn't like "The Enterprise Incident"?

"The Paradise Syndrome"?

"The Tholian Web"?

"Requiem For Methuselah"?

"The Savage Curtain"?

"All Our Yesterdays"?

:logical:

or

Spectre of the Gun

Is There in Truth No Beauty?

The Cloudminders

I don't buy this crap about Season Three. Sure it had more bad eps than the other two seasons, but it had plenty of great, intriguing and dramatic episodes, with plenty of great stories.

WilburWood

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Report this Feb. 19 2010, 12:07 pm

Quote (Mirrorgirl @ Feb. 19 2010, 8:55 am)
Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 19 2010, 10:46 pm)
Quote (RedShirtGuyNumber1001 @ Feb. 18 2010, 6:07 pm)
lol...you guys are funny, you are realing out bad TOS episode after bad TOS episode, is that because you wish they were banned. ?Season 3 stank up the show no doubt about it. ?The only episode I liked during that season was Let That Be Your Last Battlefield.

You didn't like "The Enterprise Incident"?

"The Paradise Syndrome"?

"The Tholian Web"?

"Requiem For Methuselah"?

"The Savage Curtain"?

"All Our Yesterdays"?

:logical:

or

Spectre of the Gun

Is There in Truth No Beauty?

The Cloudminders

I don't buy this crap about Season Three. Sure it had more bad eps than the other two seasons, but it had plenty of great, intriguing and dramatic episodes, with plenty of great stories.

Nyackjohn

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Report this Feb. 19 2010, 3:49 pm

Quote (WilburWood @ Feb. 16 2010, 2:54 pm)
"Dagger of the Mind," "Mirror, Mirror," "Patterns of Force," "Day of the Dove," "Whom Gods Destroy," "The Cloud Minders" and "Plato's Stepchildren" also had torture scenes.

And these were the first episodes mentioned:
"Mirror, Mirror", "Day of the Dove"... BAD??
Have you ever WATCHED Star Trek? Like the REAL Star Trek neither A, B, C, or D?
"Dagger of the Mind" and "Whom Gods Destroy" are favorites of a good number of fans. "Patterns of Force" admittedly is a divisive episode - some hate it, some love it. Not one of my favorites, but I wouldn't call it "Bad". "The Cloud Minders" has good points, not a top fave, but I like it enough to rewatch it when it is on.

"Spocks Brain" "And the Children Shall Bleed" - THOSE, yes, my least favorites, I can understand being called "Bad" - but even "Plato's Stepchildren" and  "Way to Eden" have their staunch defenders on this Board (I have an issue with "Eden" but to each their own. "The Empath" came at a time of almost no budget whatsoever, and has to it's credit FOUR remarkable acting jobs. What Kathryn Hayes did without speaking in the role of "Gem" is incredibly difficult - speaking as a professional actor, that type of role is considered extremely challenging. I would never call "The Empath" bad...

I do note that few of the episodes mentioned in this thread are "action" episodes and are actually (whether I like the episode or not) more focused on story, plot, pacing, character, message than "BOOM!" "CRASH!" "ALIEN SHIP DESTROYED!" I believe that those seeking more of that can find it in any one of the OTHER sci-fi shows out there, the ones that generally can't manage to last 45 episodes rather than 45 years.

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