ATTENTION: The Boards will be closed permanently on May 28th, 2014. Posting will be disabled on April 28th, 2014. More Info

Should Astrology be taught in public schools?

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 11:01 am

The atheist religious cult is propagating astronomy as the answer to questions about the stars, while not giving the theory of Astrology equal class-time, which is obviously unfair. Science is about the fair exchange of ideas, and I'm sick of them censoring the equally valid theory of Astrology!

Cherry_On_Top

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 2039

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 11:05 am

hey baby, what's your sign?

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 11:06 am

Virgo.

Trekwolf164

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 32043

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 11:08 am

dandandat

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 3117

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:02 pm

Astrology; has been an important tool of mankind for a very very long time. It brought ancient civilizations to great heights and allowed them to make complex predictions and perform complex actions that we still find complex dispite our technology.

So I don¿t see the harm in teaching Astrology to children. In fact I can think of a few ways they will benefit from it.

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:18 pm

... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

dandandat

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 3117

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm

Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:24 pm

Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

... Something Astronomy does better.

dandandat

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 3117

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:29 pm

Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:24 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

... Something Astronomy does better.

Perhaps modern Astronomy with all the super computers and technology does do a better job. But that does not discount the fact that these people where able to perform such complex feats without all the modern technology. They obviously possessed something that we lost, it would probably be worthwhile for humanity to rediscover whatever that is.

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 12:55 pm

Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:29 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:24 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

... Something Astronomy does better.

Perhaps modern Astronomy with all the super computers and technology does do a better job. But that does not discount the fact that these people where able to perform such complex feats without all the modern technology. They obviously possessed something that we lost, it would probably be worthwhile for humanity to rediscover whatever that is.

Something? How about "math"? We still have that, guy.

dandandat

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 3117

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 1:01 pm

Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:55 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:29 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:24 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

... Something Astronomy does better.

Perhaps modern Astronomy with all the super computers and technology does do a better job. But that does not discount the fact that these people where able to perform such complex feats without all the modern technology. They obviously possessed something that we lost, it would probably be worthwhile for humanity to rediscover whatever that is.

Something? How about "math"? We still have that, guy.

Perhaps I am not understanding you correctly but:

Why would you have to do away with math?

CtotheRtotheOBob

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 1064

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 1:05 pm

Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 1:01 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:55 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:29 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:24 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:23 pm)
Quote (CtotheRtotheOBob @ Feb. 15 2010, 3:18 pm)
... Oh? Complex predictions such as?

Such as positions of stars and other celestial bodies at some future date

... Something Astronomy does better.

Perhaps modern Astronomy with all the super computers and technology does do a better job. But that does not discount the fact that these people where able to perform such complex feats without all the modern technology. They obviously possessed something that we lost, it would probably be worthwhile for humanity to rediscover whatever that is.

Something? How about "math"? We still have that, guy.

Perhaps I am not understanding you correctly but:

Why would you have to do away with math?

Math allowed them to predict the movement of the stars. My point was that it hadn't been lost. The thing they used to determine the position of the stars. They witnessed, with their eyes, how the stars moved, then did math to determine where they would continue to go and at what rate. It's not a mystery lost to the ages. It's the same thing Astronomy does, except Astronomy is more accurate and doesn't involve mystical powers.

rocketscientist

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 10054

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 1:05 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Feb. 15 2010, 12:52 pm)
Quote (dandandat @ Feb. 15 2010, 11:29 amPerhaps modern Astronomy with all the super computers and technology does do a [i)
better[/i] job. But that does not discount the fact that these people where able to perform such complex feats without all the modern technology. They obviously possessed something that we lost, it would probably be worthwhile for humanity to rediscover whatever that is.

A most accurate assessment.

Well, astronomy has it's roots in astrology.

I was just reading from an Astrodynamics text (Vallado, it's comprehensive, but I still like Bates, Mueller, and White's presentation more) last week where they pointed that out.  Tycho Brahe, Kepler and other astronomers were pretty much astrologers.  

So, in a historical sense, I don't see any reason not to mention a few things about astrology in an astronomy course.  I think it's good to give students a sense of history of science and engineering.  Some of the best texts have that.

MrsStarbuck

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 4329

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 1:07 pm

They possibly teach it at Hogwarts ;)

rocketscientist

GROUP: Members

POSTS: 10054

Report this Feb. 15 2010, 1:08 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Feb. 15 2010, 1:02 pm)
Astrology was the young astronomy. Astrology grew up and lost it's superstitious beliefs that the position of the lights in the sky fortold the future. The results of the awakening was astronomy.

Any good astronomy class includes the roots of the science.

You beat me to the punch, TB!  How's it goin?  Did you have a good V-day?

Forum Permissions

You cannot post new topics in this forum

You cannot reply to topics in this forum

You cannot delete posts in this forum