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Question How Did Nero Know When

gof

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 2:10 am

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I always love when people apply "human standards" to alien cultures in Star Trek, a show that takes place 300 years in the frigging future.

Who's to say what kind of educational system the Romulans have (or for that matter, what kind of educational system humans have in the 24th century)? Who's to say what kind of history or background Nero has? Is it completely unthinkable that he "served" in the Romulan Fleet early in his career maybe even (oh my gosh) as a science officer? Who's to say what he could or could not be capable of? The Romulans are an off-shoot of Vulcans, so CLEARLY they have the capacity for understanding complex equations.

I'm sure the Narada has a frigging computer. I'm sure the Narada has frigging sensors. I'm sure all they needed to do was take the sensor readings from their own passage and apply them to some formula in the computer. In fact, I'm CERTAIN that's all they needed to do, because that's all anyone ever does to figure $h!t out. It's always that easy in Star Trek.

I love that you try to critique some one for placing something in an unknown then you on to to do the same by saying that a mining ship all of a sudden has high tech sensors to take temporal readings.

So funny.





It's even funnier that I never said that. I don't have too either.

You never said what?

Oh no!!!!

The only weapon more powerful than an antimatter bomb or an isolytic subspace weapon (outlawed by the Khittomer Accords, no less) is Gof's standard "I didn't say that" response!!!

DUCK AND COVER!!!!


What the hell are YOU talking about.

I am not denying anything.

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 2:16 am

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I always love when people apply "human standards" to alien cultures in Star Trek, a show that takes place 300 years in the frigging future.

Who's to say what kind of educational system the Romulans have (or for that matter, what kind of educational system humans have in the 24th century)? Who's to say what kind of history or background Nero has? Is it completely unthinkable that he "served" in the Romulan Fleet early in his career maybe even (oh my gosh) as a science officer? Who's to say what he could or could not be capable of? The Romulans are an off-shoot of Vulcans, so CLEARLY they have the capacity for understanding complex equations.

I'm sure the Narada has a frigging computer. I'm sure the Narada has frigging sensors. I'm sure all they needed to do was take the sensor readings from their own passage and apply them to some formula in the computer. In fact, I'm CERTAIN that's all they needed to do, because that's all anyone ever does to figure $h!t out. It's always that easy in Star Trek.

I love that you try to critique some one for placing something in an unknown then you on to to do the same by saying that a mining ship all of a sudden has high tech sensors to take temporal readings.

So funny.





It's even funnier that I never said that. I don't have too either.

You never said what?

Read your own sentence.

I also find it funny that you see the futility of your own argument and yet still argue with me. I win twice.

I replied to a post made by Vger, you then replied to saying saying that you never said that. Nowhere in the posts made by Vger or mine something gets attributed to you.

This is obviously shows that you are replying just to reply and not even paying attention to what's being written.

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 3:57 am

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The simple miner Nero knew how to calculate time traveling/dimension hopping destinations from random wormholes that is opened up.

Basically...... because JJ said so.

Yep. Because, you know, it's impossible to learn about temporal mechanics within the space of 25 years.


Yes, I'm sure the Klingons had a kick butt library on Penthe...

According to the deleted scenes, he was able to make the calculations without the need of a library. So he obviously already had a good amount of knowledge on the subject.

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By the way, when was it established that Nero was a "simple" miner?

When he said it in the movie.

Okay. So, in other words, never. He never described himself as a "simple miner." He described his ship as a "simple mining vessel." "In my time, where I come from, this is a simple mining vessel." The fact that he was the captain of a warp-capable ship and was able to calculate complex temporal equations prove that he was more than, as you say, a "simple miner." (The guys that operated the mining drill... they were simple miners.)

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Report this Feb. 16 2010, 10:01 am

Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ Feb. 16 2010, 3:57 am)
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The simple miner Nero knew how to calculate time traveling/dimension hopping destinations from random wormholes that is opened up.

Basically...... because JJ said so.

Yep. Because, you know, it's impossible to learn about temporal mechanics within the space of 25 years.


Yes, I'm sure the Klingons had a kick butt library on Penthe...

According to the deleted scenes, he was able to make the calculations without the need of a library. So he obviously already had a good amount of knowledge on the subject.

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By the way, when was it established that Nero was a "simple" miner?

When he said it in the movie.


Okay. So, in other words, never. He never described himself as a "simple miner." He described his ship as a "simple mining vessel." "In my time, where I come from, this is a simple mining vessel." The fact that he was the captain of a warp-capable ship and was able to calculate complex temporal equations prove that he was more than, as you say, a "simple miner." (The guys that operated the mining drill... they were simple miners.)
Oh, no. Now you've done it. I can hear the gears grinding and the smoke coming out of his ears through my computer.

BRACE FOR EXCUSES!!

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Report this Feb. 17 2010, 8:47 am

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Quote (Vger23 @ Feb. 12 2010, 8:53 am)
I always love when people apply "human standards" to alien cultures in Star Trek, a show that takes place 300 years in the frigging future.

Who's to say what kind of educational system the Romulans have (or for that matter, what kind of educational system humans have in the 24th century)? Who's to say what kind of history or background Nero has? Is it completely unthinkable that he "served" in the Romulan Fleet early in his career maybe even (oh my gosh) as a science officer? Who's to say what he could or could not be capable of? The Romulans are an off-shoot of Vulcans, so CLEARLY they have the capacity for understanding complex equations.

I'm sure the Narada has a frigging computer. I'm sure the Narada has frigging sensors. I'm sure all they needed to do was take the sensor readings from their own passage and apply them to some formula in the computer. In fact, I'm CERTAIN that's all they needed to do, because that's all anyone ever does to figure $h!t out. It's always that easy in Star Trek.

I love that you try to critique some one for placing something in an unknown then you on to to do the same by saying that a mining ship all of a sudden has high tech sensors to take temporal readings.

So funny.





It's even funnier that I never said that. I don't have too either.

You never said what?

Read your own sentence.

I also find it funny that you see the futility of your own argument and yet still argue with me. I win twice.

I replied to a post made by Vger, you then replied to saying saying that you never said that. Nowhere in the posts made by Vger or mine something gets attributed to you.

This is obviously shows that you are replying just to reply and not even paying attention to what's being written.

LoL now you're going off on tangents that dont even exists. Vger never factored into our conversation at any point so whatever to that.

Quote (gof @ Feb. 15 2010, 11:16 am)
This is obviously shows that you are replying just to reply and not even paying attention to what's being written.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Whatever dude. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You cant even keep up on what crap you start. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

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Report this Feb. 20 2010, 12:33 am

Quote (PhantomCrunk007 @ Feb. 17 2010, 8:47 am)
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Quote (Vger23 @ Feb. 12 2010, 8:53 am)
I always love when people apply "human standards" to alien cultures in Star Trek, a show that takes place 300 years in the frigging future.

Who's to say what kind of educational system the Romulans have (or for that matter, what kind of educational system humans have in the 24th century)? Who's to say what kind of history or background Nero has? Is it completely unthinkable that he "served" in the Romulan Fleet early in his career maybe even (oh my gosh) as a science officer? Who's to say what he could or could not be capable of? The Romulans are an off-shoot of Vulcans, so CLEARLY they have the capacity for understanding complex equations.

I'm sure the Narada has a frigging computer. I'm sure the Narada has frigging sensors. I'm sure all they needed to do was take the sensor readings from their own passage and apply them to some formula in the computer. In fact, I'm CERTAIN that's all they needed to do, because that's all anyone ever does to figure $h!t out. It's always that easy in Star Trek.

I love that you try to critique some one for placing something in an unknown then you on to to do the same by saying that a mining ship all of a sudden has high tech sensors to take temporal readings.

So funny.





It's even funnier that I never said that. I don't have too either.

You never said what?

Read your own sentence.

I also find it funny that you see the futility of your own argument and yet still argue with me. I win twice.

I replied to a post made by Vger, you then replied to saying saying that you never said that. Nowhere in the posts made by Vger or mine something gets attributed to you.

This is obviously shows that you are replying just to reply and not even paying attention to what's being written.

LoL now you're going off on tangents that dont even exists. Vger never factored into our conversation at any point so whatever to that.

Quote (gof @ Feb. 15 2010, 11:16 am)
This is obviously shows that you are replying just to reply and not even paying attention to what's being written.



BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Whatever dude. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

You cant even keep up on what crap you start. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.

i know this might be hard for you but...... i can reply to other people. You are not the only person in this board.

When i was talking to Vger I was talking to Vger and Vger alone and none of what was said had anything to do with you. The end.

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Report this Feb. 20 2010, 2:34 pm

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Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ Feb. 16 2010, 3:57 am)
Quote (gof @ Feb. 11 2010, 11:01 pm)
Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ Feb. 11 2010, 11:11 pm)
Quote (gof @ Feb. 09 2010, 1:04 am)
The simple miner Nero knew how to calculate time traveling/dimension hopping destinations from random wormholes that is opened up.

Basically...... because JJ said so.

Yep. Because, you know, it's impossible to learn about temporal mechanics within the space of 25 years.


Yes, I'm sure the Klingons had a kick butt library on Penthe...

According to the deleted scenes, he was able to make the calculations without the need of a library. So he obviously already had a good amount of knowledge on the subject.

Quote

By the way, when was it established that Nero was a "simple" miner?

When he said it in the movie.


Okay. So, in other words, never. He never described himself as a "simple miner." He described his ship as a "simple mining vessel." "In my time, where I come from, this is a simple mining vessel." The fact that he was the captain of a warp-capable ship and was able to calculate complex temporal equations prove that he was more than, as you say, a "simple miner." (The guys that operated the mining drill... they were simple miners.)

Oh, no. Now you've done it. I can hear the gears grinding and the smoke coming out of his ears through my computer.

BRACE FOR EXCUSES!!
Looks like he's taking the "I'm going to ignore that so that I can pretend that I didn't lose the argument" route.

:laugh: :laugh:

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Report this Feb. 20 2010, 3:56 pm

No, i am taking the, "I dont have to movie so this can't continue on." Route.

If some of you that do have the flick would be so kind to upload clips of Nero talking somewhere we can go on.

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