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chr3335

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 1:23 pm

I have some questions about why all Federation ships have those stupid wasteful and dangerous Jefferies tubes and exploding bridge consoles.  I mean we already have seen that the Federation doesn't do much in the way of engineering safety.

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 2:02 pm

chr3335

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm

Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Feb. 06 2010, 2:47 pm)
Yea like building a weapon that can destroy a planet, yet can be destroyed by one torpedo from an outdated fighter......

At least they fixed it :p Trek still has its stupid problems in fact they have grown bigger :D

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 6:40 pm

That was all really funny stuff. Thanks Yanks!

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 6:44 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 06 2010, 9:40 pm)
Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Feb. 06 2010, 2:47 pm)
Yea like building a weapon that can destroy a planet, yet can be destroyed by one torpedo from an outdated fighter......

At least they fixed it :p Trek still has its stupid problems in fact they have grown bigger :D

In fairness Chr, it's very difficult to get everything perfect over 40+ years and hundreds of episodes.

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 6:54 pm

Quote (Yanks @ Feb. 07 2010, 2:43 pm)
4. A Star Trek quiz:
Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and 'Ensign Gomez' beam down to a planet. Which one isn't coming back?

Poor Gomez.  :bugout:

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 7:35 pm

I'll bet Colm Meaney had a few things to say about those spandex uniforms. A good actor has to be even better to overcome looking silly because no adult with a less than Hollywood bod would CHOOSE clothes that fit like that.

And I did notice the perks of higher ranks for women in Starfleet: they get a little tunic over slacks as their uniform. Hides the inevitabilities of age, still not attractive.

chr3335

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Report this Feb. 07 2010, 9:51 pm

Quote (captbates @ Feb. 06 2010, 7:44 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 06 2010, 9:40 pm)
Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Feb. 06 2010, 2:47 pm)
Yea like building a weapon that can destroy a planet, yet can be destroyed by one torpedo from an outdated fighter......

At least they fixed it :p Trek still has its stupid problems in fact they have grown bigger :D

In fairness Chr, it's very difficult to get everything perfect over 40+ years and hundreds of episodes.

Dude they made them MORE IMPORTANT.  Hell jeffries tubes started out as a little tunnel where you did some transporter maintenance.  Then by TNG all important maintenance had to be done in these small cramped impossible to guard series of 24th century duct-work how the writers made that jump is beyond me.

As for exploding bridge consoles basically means the most dangers place to be on a Federation ship is on the bridge because the designers lined all the consoles with C4 or something.

chr3335

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Report this Feb. 08 2010, 10:36 am

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 07 2010, 10:27 am)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 1:23 pm)
I have some questions about why all Federation ships have those stupid wasteful and dangerous Jefferies tubes and exploding bridge consoles. ?I mean we already have seen that the Federation doesn't do much in the way of engineering safety.

Huh?

"wasteful Jefferies tubes"?

"exploding bridge consoles"?

What's wasteful about a Jefferies tube?

And accidents do happen in times of attack?

I don't get the purpose of this...

:logical:

The Jeffires tubes are small tunnels where all important maintenance is done.  These things helped make the shape shifters a threat not to mention their is barely any space to work in.  Not to mention the extra strain on the life support systems for a series of duck work that serves a pointless purpose.

As for the exploding bridge consoles do you really think it is a good idea to have console shower bridge personnel with shrapnel.  Once i can understand but after that why haven't they fixed that problem.

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Report this Feb. 09 2010, 2:34 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Feb. 06 2010, 2:47 pm)
Yea like building a weapon that can destroy a planet, yet can be destroyed by one torpedo from an outdated fighter......

At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.

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Report this Feb. 09 2010, 4:49 pm

Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 7:34 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.


The second Death Star wasn't yet completed (indeed, we can visibly see a quarter of it missing! ), there wouldn't have been dirty great holes of exposed superstructure to fly into in the finished version.

A better flaw would be the determined lack of safety railing around the random bottomless pits that appear to be necessary for the operation of the Death Star, or the penchant for using intimidating white Stormtrooper armour even in the middle of a forest...

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Report this Feb. 10 2010, 11:34 am

Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Feb. 09 2010, 4:49 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 7:34 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.


The second Death Star wasn't yet completed (indeed, we can visibly see a quarter of it missing! ), there wouldn't have been dirty great holes of exposed superstructure to fly into in the finished version.

A better flaw would be the determined lack of safety railing around the random bottomless pits that appear to be necessary for the operation of the Death Star, or the penchant for using intimidating white Stormtrooper armour even in the middle of a forest...

While it is true that the Death Star wasn't complete (because it was a trap), the problem hadn't actually been remedied. May have been so on paper, but in practicality it still had a gaping hole in its defenses. But to the Empire's credit, it doesn't take much to figure out it's a trap when Luke's telling you that Vader's on the ship from which you're trying to get landing authorization.

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Report this Feb. 10 2010, 4:21 pm

Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 12:34 pm)
Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Feb. 09 2010, 4:49 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 7:34 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.


The second Death Star wasn't yet completed (indeed, we can visibly see a quarter of it missing! ), there wouldn't have been dirty great holes of exposed superstructure to fly into in the finished version.

A better flaw would be the determined lack of safety railing around the random bottomless pits that appear to be necessary for the operation of the Death Star, or the penchant for using intimidating white Stormtrooper armour even in the middle of a forest...

While it is true that the Death Star wasn't complete (because it was a trap), the problem hadn't actually been remedied. May have been so on paper, but in practicality it still had a gaping hole in its defenses. But to the Empire's credit, it doesn't take much to figure out it's a trap when Luke's telling you that Vader's on the ship from which you're trying to get landing authorization.

Even if the Rebels knew it was a trap they couldn't risk the Empire finishing it.  The DS2 had no weaknesses hence why the Rebels had to hit it before it was completed.

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Report this Feb. 10 2010, 4:25 pm

Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 09 2010, 9:21 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 12:34 pm)
Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Feb. 09 2010, 4:49 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 7:34 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.


The second Death Star wasn't yet completed (indeed, we can visibly see a quarter of it missing! ), there wouldn't have been dirty great holes of exposed superstructure to fly into in the finished version.

A better flaw would be the determined lack of safety railing around the random bottomless pits that appear to be necessary for the operation of the Death Star, or the penchant for using intimidating white Stormtrooper armour even in the middle of a forest...

While it is true that the Death Star wasn't complete (because it was a trap), the problem hadn't actually been remedied. May have been so on paper, but in practicality it still had a gaping hole in its defenses. But to the Empire's credit, it doesn't take much to figure out it's a trap when Luke's telling you that Vader's on the ship from which you're trying to get landing authorization.

Even if the Rebels knew it was a trap they couldn't risk the Empire finishing it. ¿The DS2 had no weaknesses hence why the Rebels had to hit it before it was completed.

Everything has a weakness, it just has to be found.  ;)

lostshaker

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Report this Feb. 10 2010, 6:51 pm

Quote (captbates @ Feb. 10 2010, 4:25 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 09 2010, 9:21 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 12:34 pm)
Quote (Vorta_the_point @ Feb. 09 2010, 4:49 pm)
Quote (lostshaker @ Feb. 09 2010, 7:34 pm)
Quote (chr3335 @ Feb. 07 2010, 4:40 pm)
At least they fixed it

...by building an even larger shaft that allows the enemy to fly directly to the main reactor.


The second Death Star wasn't yet completed (indeed, we can visibly see a quarter of it missing! ), there wouldn't have been dirty great holes of exposed superstructure to fly into in the finished version.

A better flaw would be the determined lack of safety railing around the random bottomless pits that appear to be necessary for the operation of the Death Star, or the penchant for using intimidating white Stormtrooper armour even in the middle of a forest...

While it is true that the Death Star wasn't complete (because it was a trap), the problem hadn't actually been remedied. May have been so on paper, but in practicality it still had a gaping hole in its defenses. But to the Empire's credit, it doesn't take much to figure out it's a trap when Luke's telling you that Vader's on the ship from which you're trying to get landing authorization.

Even if the Rebels knew it was a trap they couldn't risk the Empire finishing it. ?The DS2 had no weaknesses hence why the Rebels had to hit it before it was completed.

Everything has a weakness, it just has to be found. ¿;)

I agree, captbates. Impatience is the dark side of the Force. From the beginning of Jedi, Vader came aboard to "motivate" the troops. And how many of those troops do you want to bet took short cuts out of fear?

That being said, before George Lucas took a knife to Jedi and updated it, Jedi was my favorite. The original version with Sebastian Shaw is perfect.

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