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kkt

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Report this Dec. 16 2010, 6:24 pm

I didn't think Bajor was occupied before the Cardassians.

I think Bajor represents all occupied countries, from India under the British to Algeria under the French to Europe during WW II to Tibet under China. Maybe Algeria and Europe are closer parallels because they had active violent resistance movements.

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Report this Dec. 16 2010, 9:38 pm

The Cardassians were the only alien race to occupy Bajor, even though the non - canon materials hint that Bajorans and Cardassians may be distant relatives, descendants of the ancient Hebitian race.

Certainly Bajor represents all occupied peoples, not one particular race. And they also incorporate elements of the successful Resistance movements: a strong native culture, a loosely coordinated resistance movement and a native stubbornness in the face of adversity.
Bajorans are a great addition to the pantheon of races in Star Trek.

"Can you detect midi - chlorians with a tricorder?"

Pappy002

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 1:07 am

I didn't care too much for Bajoran's at first, but they kinda grew on me, like an ugly dog or cat, just because their ugly, doesn't mean you can't love em.

Brunt, FCA!

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 1:58 am

Quote: Pappy002 @ Dec. 17 2010, 1:07 am

>I didn't care too much for Bajoran's at first, but they kinda grew on me, like an ugly dog or cat, just because their ugly, doesn't mean you can't love em.
LOL They were annoying. The only difference between a Bajoran and some generic villager from a distant planet (like the Ba'ku people) were the nose ridges. They were stuck in what looked like Middle Ages, except they were clean and healthy and had access to advanced technology.

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 5:32 pm

It takes more than having funny ridges on your nose to achieve a worthwhile culture ...

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Lieutenant_Jedi

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Report this Dec. 17 2010, 9:58 pm

Generally Star Trek in the modern (TNG and after era) has made it easy to see who the aliens were by putting come kind of ridge on their face.

"Can you detect midi - chlorians with a tricorder?"

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 12:09 am

Joking aside, the Bajoran's are religious nuts who won't shut up about the prophets. It gets really annoying listening to them "thank the prophets" this & "prophets" that. If there were no actual prophets, I don't think I would have gotten into it as much as I did. The men are dorks, Kira starts off looking butch, but eventually gets easier on the eyes. And the other women, aside from Leeta, and a few Dabo girls, were very homely. But they grow on you especially near the end of the series. And their uniforms are butt ugly.

Brunt, FCA!

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 5:54 am

Quote: Pappy002 @ Dec. 18 2010, 12:09 am

Joking aside, the Bajoran's are religious nuts who won't shut up about the prophets. It gets really annoying listening to them "thank the prophets" this & "prophets" that. If there were no actual prophets, I don't think I would have gotten into it as much as I did. The men are dorks, Kira starts off looking butch, but eventually gets easier on the eyes. And the other women, aside from Leeta, and a few Dabo girls, were very homely. But they grow on you especially near the end of the series. And their uniforms are butt ugly.


That Kira Nerys ... she's not the messiah - she's just a very naughty girl!

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Report this Dec. 18 2010, 1:53 pm

The Bajorans are fully fleshed out alien race. The Star Trek writers spent so much of their time developing every nuounce of Bajor: the people, their religion, the government, the Cardassian occupation, the collaborators, the resistance movement. Personally I like what the writers did, it added... depth and meaning to DS9.

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 6:38 pm

Quote: JaydenJaneway @ Oct. 27 2010, 6:57 pm

>you would think they would be more advanced to have been around for 10,000 years
Not if they developed at a much slower rate or had other interests or stalled out at some point (think our Dark Ages.) Also, that doesn't mean that they didn't at one time and went backwards.


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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 6:47 pm

Quote: theultimateguinan @ Feb. 26 2010, 9:23 am

I don't really like Bajorans either, they are weak and boring.

As a result, I actually find what the Cardassians did to Bajor funny... does that make me awful...?
I wonder what they would have been like without 60 years of Cardassian rape & rule.

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 8:30 pm

The Bajorans are the reason for the show. We have all the elements that are repeated throughout the series--religion, opression, politics, and war. I thought dealing with the aftermath of a culture and government when they have to start from scratch (after 50 years) was one of the more interesting and unique aspects of the show.


Not to get too personal, but I have been homeless. It was a year of hell and the priorities that I had to survive had to be redefined after I was no longer in that situation. I watched Deep Space Nine last summer and the struggle to rebuild, to not be defined by that "old" life, that all happened to me. It is incredibly well done.


I stopped judging the series costumes long ago or the Original Series would be unwatchable. I watched the show through the eyes of exploration--I wanted to learn about the culture before us in the episode. And from that perspective, the Bajorans were perhaps second only to the Dominion in development of a culture. It is the complexity of the show.


Its stories are about the depth and complexity of human interaction and relationships. It studies us and asks us to look within ourselves, to relate, to ask how would we respond to all that is in their world?

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Report this Dec. 20 2010, 8:32 pm

Quote: EzrianBashirax @ Feb. 28 2010, 2:59 pm

I don't think the Bajorian/Jewish and Cardassian/Nazi parallels were unintentional.


Don't for get the Palestine/Maquis parallels.

Its stories are about the depth and complexity of human interaction and relationships. It studies us and asks us to look within ourselves, to relate, to ask how would we respond to all that is in their world?

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