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Eddogegr3

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Report this Feb. 04 2010, 12:22 pm

Just thought, I 'd much rather see Abrams bring Trelane in than Khan or Mudd as rumored.

How nice to see Trelane updated. ¿And then make him a Q that we know he is!

Vger23

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Report this Feb. 04 2010, 12:34 pm

I don't know how well a gay 18th century Englishman with god-like powers and the emotional maturity of an 11-year old would go over with general audiences.

Just something to consider before anyone submits a script.

Eddogegr3

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Report this Feb. 04 2010, 12:38 pm

Quote (Vger23 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:34 pm)
I don't know how well a gay 18th century Englishman with god-like powers and the emotional maturity of an 11-year old would go over with general audiences.

Just something to consider before anyone submits a script.

LOL.  Good point.  

In JJ We Trust?  I mean, he made mainstream audiences like Chekov even if I didn't really like the new take?

Eddogegr3

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Report this Feb. 04 2010, 6:10 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:51 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:22 pm)
Just thought, I 'd much rather see Abrams bring Trelane in than Khan or Mudd as rumored.

How nice to see Trelane updated. ?And then make him a Q that we know he is!

If Trelane wasn't a Q in the prime timeline, how would he become one in the new timeline?

:logical:

In my humble opinion, Roddenberry based Q off of Trelane's character.  And I know it is on-cannon, but the book Q-Squared brought this out in a way that it can easily translate onscreen.

And, Abram's can do whatever he wants.  Orcci even said that he considers some novels as source material.  It is never NOT said that Trelane was not Q.  So they can make this an obvious transition.  99.9% doubtful, yes.  But I for one would love it.  Squire of Gothos has always been on of my favorite TOS's.

KALEL

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 1:19 am

Quote (Vger23 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:34 pm)
I don't know how well a gay 18th century Englishman with god-like powers and the emotional maturity of an 11-year old would go over with general audiences.

Just something to consider before anyone submits a script.

Actually,  with the exception of him being English, that sounds a lot like Q to me. I'm just sayin'......  :question:

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 6:18 am

I must say that I am in that Trelane is possibly a Q Continuum Camp, and I would be interested to see a new take on him, but then I say to myself, does that mean I am happy to see all the old TOS villains and protagonists revived in some way? And you know the answer is YES, why not? If it means new Star Trek movies on a regular basis and lots of fun and games like in the recent movie then fine, so long as they keep working towards being true to what Star Trek is, and try and get the script and story even deeper this time.   :logical:  :rookie:

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 5:03 pm

The point is that certain types of characters work very well in Star Trek and arrogant super-beings thickly populate the screen. I personally enjoy Trelane far more than Q, because he had a fatal flaw that Kirk could exploit and I found Q a bit too 'all-powerful'

And Chronic you are spot on when you say that there are so many things that could be expanded from TOS...a half a dozen occur instantly to m too.

Ah what would these boards be without the Trelane/Q, V'Ger/Borg discussions? :laugh:

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 6:50 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Feb. 06 2010, 7:38 am)
Right on... :D

Personally, I'd like to see something involving the Medusans.... but ahhhhh well.... ¿:laugh:

Yeah, I know what you are saying, it's like there's stuff that we dig, that just wouldn't get a look in these days. *shrugs*

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 9:06 pm

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Feb. 06 2010, 9:49 am)
I mean, just looking at one drives you insane!

An invasion force of Medusans would rely heavily on merely showing pictures of themselves around. :laugh:

:laugh:  :laugh:  :laugh:

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Feb. 05 2010, 9:07 pm

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

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Report this Feb. 06 2010, 12:46 am

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 05 2010, 12:55 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 6:10 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:51 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:22 pm)
Just thought, I 'd much rather see Abrams bring Trelane in than Khan or Mudd as rumored.

How nice to see Trelane updated. ?And then make him a Q that we know he is!

If Trelane wasn't a Q in the prime timeline, how would he become one in the new timeline?

:logical:

In my humble opinion, Roddenberry based Q off of Trelane's character. ?And I know it is on-cannon, but the book Q-Squared brought this out in a way that it can easily translate onscreen.

And, Abram's can do whatever he wants. ?Orcci even said that he considers some novels as source material. ?It is never NOT said that Trelane was not Q. ?So they can make this an obvious transition. ?99.9% doubtful, yes. ?But I for one would love it. ?Squire of Gothos has always been on of my favorite TOS's.

If they hadn't taken to deleting old threads here at st.com, we could refer you to some of the past discussions about this.

The main thing that shows Trelane wasn't a Q? He needed machinery to use his powers. A Q, even a young one like Amanda Rogers, needs no machinery.

:logical:

Good observation, Starbase. Maybe Trelane could be an early form of Q, before they evolved or something. I mean it was clear that his parents were all powerful. Just a thought.   :idea:

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Feb. 06 2010, 7:08 am

Quote (TheChronicOne @ Feb. 06 2010, 12:26 pm)
:D :kiss:

That's like ten laughy things in a row.

:laugh:

CHRONIC'S SUPER WIN

As many :laugh: :laugh: as it takes my friend, you just about killed me with that one, I was giggling for many minutes after reading it.

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Report this Feb. 06 2010, 3:25 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 05 2010, 12:55 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 6:10 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:51 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:22 pm)
Just thought, I 'd much rather see Abrams bring Trelane in than Khan or Mudd as rumored.

How nice to see Trelane updated. ?And then make him a Q that we know he is!

If Trelane wasn't a Q in the prime timeline, how would he become one in the new timeline?

:logical:

In my humble opinion, Roddenberry based Q off of Trelane's character. ?And I know it is on-cannon, but the book Q-Squared brought this out in a way that it can easily translate onscreen.

And, Abram's can do whatever he wants. ?Orcci even said that he considers some novels as source material. ?It is never NOT said that Trelane was not Q. ?So they can make this an obvious transition. ?99.9% doubtful, yes. ?But I for one would love it. ?Squire of Gothos has always been on of my favorite TOS's.

If they hadn't taken to deleting old threads here at st.com, we could refer you to some of the past discussions about this.

The main thing that shows Trelane wasn't a Q? He needed machinery to use his powers. A Q, even a young one like Amanda Rogers, needs no machinery.

:logical:

Which proves nothing.

Trelane still had powers when the machine was disabled.

Perhaps the machine only helped him focus his powers.

And the fact that others had no need proves nothing either.

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Report this Feb. 08 2010, 3:22 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 08 2010, 10:14 am)
Quote (KALEL @ Feb. 06 2010, 12:46 am)
Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 05 2010, 12:55 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 6:10 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:51 pm)
Quote (Eddogegr3 @ Feb. 04 2010, 12:22 pm)
Just thought, I 'd much rather see Abrams bring Trelane in than Khan or Mudd as rumored.

How nice to see Trelane updated. ?And then make him a Q that we know he is!

If Trelane wasn't a Q in the prime timeline, how would he become one in the new timeline?

:logical:

In my humble opinion, Roddenberry based Q off of Trelane's character. ?And I know it is on-cannon, but the book Q-Squared brought this out in a way that it can easily translate onscreen.

And, Abram's can do whatever he wants. ?Orcci even said that he considers some novels as source material. ?It is never NOT said that Trelane was not Q. ?So they can make this an obvious transition. ?99.9% doubtful, yes. ?But I for one would love it. ?Squire of Gothos has always been on of my favorite TOS's.

If they hadn't taken to deleting old threads here at st.com, we could refer you to some of the past discussions about this.

The main thing that shows Trelane wasn't a Q? He needed machinery to use his powers. A Q, even a young one like Amanda Rogers, needs no machinery.

:logical:

Good observation, Starbase. Maybe Trelane could be an early form of Q, before they evolved or something. I mean it was clear that his parents were all powerful. Just a thought. ? :idea:

Before they evolved?

Only about 100 years between when Kirk met Trelane and Picard met Q...

Not likely.

:logical:

Just because its 100 [+] years in our time does not mean it was 100 years for the Q.

Eddogegr3

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Report this Feb. 08 2010, 6:10 pm

I agree.  Once Kirk destroyed the machine, it only temporary disrupted Trelane.  It can easily be explained.  Maybe the the parents put these type of restrictions  on Little Q's in order to restrain their powers?  Trelane continued on w/o the machine and found a way around it...

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