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Report this Jan. 24 2010, 12:28 am

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Ensign Sito
Sarek (probably the best acting performance ever from Trek, between Picard and Sarek)
Michael Eddington
Lon Suder
Vedek Bareil
Degra (kind of)

George Kirk. (XI)

I couldn't believe they made me cry for a character that I had only known for 5 minutes. That (XI) was the most amazing scene. I loved it.

I agree, one of the best scenes of the movie..

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Report this Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm

A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.
While our death could help some in what we do as we die it does nothing good for the one that dies,
now does it.
A good death; don't make me  :sick:

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Report this Jan. 27 2010, 4:57 pm

Quote (Holberg @ Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm)
A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.
While our death could help some in what we do as we die it does nothing good for the one that dies,
now does it.
A good death; don't make me ¿:sick:

I was thinking "Good Death Scene" more than "Good Death". At the time, the only deaths I could think of were poorly executed or pointless. Thus, the question.

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 12:27 am

Quote (Holberg @ Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm)
A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.

There is for someone who is so sick that living becomes too painful.

But since that's not what this thread is about...

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 12:47 am

Quote (OtakuJo @ Jan. 28 2010, 12:27 am)
Quote (Holberg @ Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm)
A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.

There is for someone who is so sick that living becomes too painful.

But since that's not what this thread is about...

I know the direction that's coming from. My grandpa had lung cancer last year. He was getting pretty bad. He held out long enough to go visit his family and see his grandchildren one last time. Then, we got back from the two-day trip, and he died 4 days later. It was pretty nice, though, because had he not, he would have had to have other people start taking care of him and he would have suffered. So, yeah...

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 6:09 pm

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Jan. 28 2010, 12:47 am)
Quote (OtakuJo @ Jan. 28 2010, 12:27 am)
Quote (Holberg @ Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm)
A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.

There is for someone who is so sick that living becomes too painful.

But since that's not what this thread is about...

I know the direction that's coming from. My grandpa had lung cancer last year. He was getting pretty bad. He held out long enough to go visit his family and see his grandchildren one last time. Then, we got back from the two-day trip, and he died 4 days later. It was pretty nice, though, because had he not, he would have had to have other people start taking care of him and he would have suffered. So, yeah...

You can have any opinion you like on what should dictate "when" it's time to go or if one should hang on or Dr Kevorkian or what-have-you, but the fact is, no ONE of us has enough knowledge of a subject as vast as death to be absolutely SURE what someone else is going through--and face it, there are a million variations on what you can go through as death approaches.

So I'll just have to speak for myself when it comes to my strong opinions, but respect other people's as well, even if I might not think it's right.

People like Vikings and Native Americans and Klingons talk about a "good death" for a reason--and their ideas about when to die do pretty much fly in the face of what we tend to believe now-a-days...

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 7:48 pm

Quote (grigori @ Jan. 28 2010, 6:09 pm)
Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Jan. 28 2010, 12:47 am)
Quote (OtakuJo @ Jan. 28 2010, 12:27 am)
Quote (Holberg @ Jan. 27 2010, 4:46 pm)
A good death?
Sorry I don' believe there is such a thing.

There is for someone who is so sick that living becomes too painful.

But since that's not what this thread is about...

I know the direction that's coming from. My grandpa had lung cancer last year. He was getting pretty bad. He held out long enough to go visit his family and see his grandchildren one last time. Then, we got back from the two-day trip, and he died 4 days later. It was pretty nice, though, because had he not, he would have had to have other people start taking care of him and he would have suffered. So, yeah...

You can have any opinion you like on what should dictate "when" it's time to go or if one should hang on or Dr Kevorkian or what-have-you, but the fact is, no ONE of us has enough knowledge of a subject as vast as death to be absolutely SURE what someone else is going through--and face it, there are a million variations on what you can go through as death approaches.

So I'll just have to speak for myself when it comes to my strong opinions, but respect other people's as well, even if I might not think it's right.

People like Vikings and Native Americans and Klingons talk about a "good death" for a reason--and their ideas about when to die do pretty much fly in the face of what we tend to believe now-a-days...

Of course, though, that's not the direction I was coming from when I started this thread. I was just thinking cinematically, not trying to bring up any memories or anything like that.

grigori

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 9:36 pm

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Jan. 28 2010, 7:48 pm)
Of course, though, that's not the direction I was coming from when I started this thread. I was just thinking cinematically, not trying to bring up any memories or anything like that.

You're absolutely right! :D Sorry for the philosophical tangent. This is a GOOD thread--for the original topic.

...The self-sacrifice of Sim's death (ENT) was a tear-jerker, especially since we got to see him come full circle with the inevitability.

SIM: You're not a murderer.
ARCHER: Don't make me one.

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Report this Feb. 03 2010, 12:45 am

Honestly, I hear that today's technology could pass Enterprise's technology. They're talking about being able to use cloning to grow organs and the like all by themselves. Thus, the could pass the point of cloning and harvesting humans before they even got to it.

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Report this Feb. 03 2010, 7:30 pm

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...The self-sacrifice of Sim's death (ENT) was a tear-jerker, especially since we got to see him come full circle with the inevitability.

SIM: You're not a murderer.
ARCHER: Don't make me one.

Sims death was murder. It was necessary because of Earth's danger. But the idea of creating a sentient being as body parts for another is horrific. Archer was a murderer in this case no matter what Sim said IMO.

Similitude was a tricky one because the organism WASN'T sentient at first, and was never intended to be killed for its "body parts". Then the situation changed on them.

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