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ViperMan2000

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 12:31 am

Quote (IVHoltzman @ Jan. 20 2010, 11:53 pm)
In Greek mythology, Prometheus gave the knowledge of Fire to primitive mortal men so that they wouldn't suffer so in winter. The more jealous gods made Prometheus suffer in mankind's stead for having dared to share godly powers with mortals, but as he suffered Prometheus at least had the comfort of knowing he'd done a good thing. We can sympathize with Prometheus. We admire him for what he did, all the while feeling a hint of shame at knowing we wouldn't have invited his fate by being so charitable. And yet we're taught not to feel sorry for a certain serpent who did exactly the same thing in giving the knowledge of good and evil to Adam and Eve.

That serpent did not give them anything like it. The Bible calls him the father of the lie. All that he said went directly against what God said.

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 2:23 pm

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Jan. 20 2010, 1:31 am)
Quote (IVHoltzman @ Jan. 20 2010, 11:53 pm)
In Greek mythology, Prometheus gave the knowledge of Fire to primitive mortal men so that they wouldn't suffer so in winter. The more jealous gods made Prometheus suffer in mankind's stead for having dared to share godly powers with mortals, but as he suffered Prometheus at least had the comfort of knowing he'd done a good thing. We can sympathize with Prometheus. We admire him for what he did, all the while feeling a hint of shame at knowing we wouldn't have invited his fate by being so charitable. And yet we're taught not to feel sorry for a certain serpent who did exactly the same thing in giving the knowledge of good and evil to Adam and Eve.

That serpent did not give them anything like it. The Bible calls him the father of the lie. All that he said went directly against what God said.

Well the Gods of the Greek Myths would've said the same about Prometheus no doubt.

It was a separate story of the Greek Myths that gave us the imperfections and bad things in general though I believe. Pandora's Box, no? Whereas presumably in taking a bite of the apple, humans were taught of fire and opened pandora's box simultaneously, so to speak.

That's presumably where the real difference between the two, Prometheus and the Serpent, lie.

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 2:27 pm

I was excommunicated from my religion.



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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 2:34 pm

Quote (Commander_Zelkar @ Jan. 20 2010, 3:27 pm)
I was excommunicated from my religion.



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Did you take a dump in the font?

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 6:53 pm

I'm half-Atheist, half-Agnostic.

I don't belive that God exists, and even if He did, I wouldn't worship Him.

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 10:32 pm

Quote (rocketscientist @ Jan. 21 2010, 2:30 am)
In the same vein, how could the prophets, St. Paul, John, etc. find words to describe God, whose nature (if you believe he exists), is far beyond ours?

I believe these writers were attempting to describe things they didn't fully understand. ?They did the best job they could interpreting what they were given and what they knew. ?

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Many times in The Bible: Paul, Job, Moses said even they do not fully understand God and his ways.

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 11:00 pm

I believe man was made exactly the way God intended us to be.  Therefore we were made perfectly fitted for our role in the universe, whatever that may be.

IVHoltzman

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Report this Jan. 21 2010, 11:20 pm

Quote (Humorbot @ Jan. 21 2010, 2:23 pm)
Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Jan. 20 2010, 1:31 am)
Quote (IVHoltzman @ Jan. 20 2010, 11:53 pm)
In Greek mythology, Prometheus gave the knowledge of Fire to primitive mortal men so that they wouldn't suffer so in winter. The more jealous gods made Prometheus suffer in mankind's stead for having dared to share godly powers with mortals, but as he suffered Prometheus at least had the comfort of knowing he'd done a good thing. We can sympathize with Prometheus. We admire him for what he did, all the while feeling a hint of shame at knowing we wouldn't have invited his fate by being so charitable. And yet we're taught not to feel sorry for a certain serpent who did exactly the same thing in giving the knowledge of good and evil to Adam and Eve.

That serpent did not give them anything like it. The Bible calls him the father of the lie. All that he said went directly against what God said.

Well the Gods of the Greek Myths would've said the same about Prometheus no doubt.

Exactly! In any religion, gods tend to be jealous. They also tend to be capricious. Why would Yahweh/Jehovah/Allah put right in the middle of Eden two things which he didn't want Adam and Eve to touch? A loving god would have put the danmed things on the far side of the planet so as not to endanger his newly created worshipers. Why would Y/J/A put into the minds of Adam and Eve the capacity to embrace temptation? A loving god would have left out of them any desire to cross him. Against that backdrop, what's so evil about the serpent's desire to behave like a good Samaritan and enlighten the deprived souls whom he encountered and took pity upon? Then again, why did Y/J/A allow the encounter? That is, why did god tolerate the illegal immigration of the serpent into Eden? He could have at least iced the border guardian angels for failing to stop the terrorist before he made it into the homeland.

But don't stress. When placed alongside Star Trek XI and any of the other Pokemon episodes, the character motivations and plot progress in Genesis seem comparatively rational.

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