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Would Democrats try to kill the president

verycaringperson

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Report this Jan. 13 2010, 9:49 pm

The definition of a democracy is "rule by the people" and the definition of a people is "human beings who have a common belief system". ¿One of the STDS9 episodes depicts Captain Sisko on Earth in San Francisco talking to the President of the Federation (this president is not a human being). ¿So does anybody think that if Democrats existed in the 24th Century they'd try to kill this president. ¿That would be sickening and horrible if they tried to.

kvlc

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Report this Jan. 13 2010, 9:53 pm

maybe if they had been in a time capsule since the twentieth century.  you're not going to find too much in webster's about aliens counting as people.  presumably they changed the definition by the 24th century.

Vger23

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Report this Jan. 13 2010, 10:19 pm

I wish I knew what the h3ll this was supposed to be all about...

Well, then again...maybe I DON'T.

:whatthe: :question:

RedShirtGuyNumber1001

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Report this Jan. 15 2010, 10:22 pm

are you talking about star trek 6?

Commander_Zelkar

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Report this Jan. 16 2010, 7:15 am

Most likely referring to "Paradise Lost". The president of the Federation, Jaresh-Inyo, is not human.

I fail to make any sense of what the OP is trying to say, however. Are you trying to say Democrats are racist?

kvlc

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Report this Jan. 16 2010, 12:34 pm

Democrats = supports of democracy.  Democracy = rule by people and the definition of "people" doesn't include aliens.  So you're not technically being ruled by a person.  This is why I said the definitions would probably have changed when humans encounter aliens.

verycaringperson

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Report this Jan. 19 2010, 3:40 pm

I'm not convinced that Democrats would trust aliens. ?They won't even allow human third party and human independent presidential candidates that theoretically are on enough state ballots to get elected president. I actually wonder if Democrats would be in favor of Section 31 and that Sloan guy - I wonder if Democrats would go to war with all aliens if they could.

OtakuJo

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Report this Jan. 23 2010, 5:07 pm

Quote (kvlc @ Jan. 16 2010, 12:34 pm)
Democrats = supports of democracy. ¿Democracy = rule by people and the definition of "people" doesn't include aliens. ¿So you're not technically being ruled by a person. ¿This is why I said the definitions would probably have changed when humans encounter aliens.

Demos = "The People" in this case simply means "The Populace"... or possibly more specifically "citizenry" As aliens are citizens, that includes Inyo.

QED.

Garak_3473

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Report this Jan. 26 2010, 11:55 am

Trying to inject 21st century politics into a fictional show based in the 24th century is the epitome of hatred towards the party you are attacking. It just shows that you are incapable of separating politics from entertainment and that your hatred for Democrats (in this case) knows no bounds.

OtakuJo

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Report this Jan. 28 2010, 12:51 am

Quote (Garak_3473 @ Jan. 26 2010, 11:55 am)
Trying to inject 21st century politics into a fictional show based in the 24th century is the epitome of hatred towards the party you are attacking. It just shows that you are incapable of separating politics from entertainment and that your hatred for Democrats (in this case) knows no bounds.

It would seem to me that the definition of "Democrat" being utilised in this case is not "A member or supporter of the American Democrat Party" as much as it is "Someone who believes in the principles of Democracy."

Perhaps verycaringperson ought to clarify?? After all, if I were to use the word "Liberal" in reference to politics it is clearly not the same as when some other people use the same word here.

In either case, the idea that Democracy would be essentially homocentric in a multiplanetary society especially the Federation is without foundation.

Clearly, the concepts of "Person" and "Human" are separate in the Star Trek world.

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