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Riker vs. Tucker

ViperMan2000

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Report this Mar. 08 2010, 11:29 pm

Quote (Enterprise19 @ Mar. 08 2010, 11:22 pm)
Quote (captbates @ Mar. 07 2010, 7:23 pm)
Riker. ;)

Explain. :bored:



Hey! 409 posts already? Does that mean I need to clean my kitchen? :D

It means that in another 591 posts, you'll deserve a party. :D


You know what, I haven't seen a party in nearly a month. :(

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Report this Mar. 08 2010, 11:33 pm

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Mar. 08 2010, 11:29 pm)
Quote (Enterprise19 @ Mar. 08 2010, 11:22 pm)
Quote (captbates @ Mar. 07 2010, 7:23 pm)
Riker. ;)

Explain. :bored:



Hey! 409 posts already? Does that mean I need to clean my kitchen? :D

It means that in another 591 posts, you'll deserve a party. :D


You know what, I haven't seen a party in nearly a month. :(

What is it? Does everybody have carpal tunnel syndrome?

tishkajaku

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Report this Mar. 09 2010, 1:54 am

Riker's fine, for his time, but I prefer all the grittiness found in Enterprise's timeline, with the out of the box thinking required of the first human foray into space, and all of Tucker's ingenuity shown whenever he found himself in a new situation....which happens a lot!  I can relate to his responses, or at least I can see how the men in my life would respond in a similar manner.  I think that's why I like Enterprise best of all the series, they all seem so much more approachable to our real life scenarios....plus, he's really a cutie! Hey, I gotta be real, here...

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Report this Mar. 09 2010, 1:05 pm

Quote (tishkajaku @ Mar. 09 2010, 1:54 am)
Riker's fine, for his time, but I prefer all the grittiness found in Enterprise's timeline, with the out of the box thinking required of the first human foray into space, and all of Tucker's ingenuity shown whenever he found himself in a new situation....which happens a lot! ?I can relate to his responses, or at least I can see how the men in my life would respond in a similar manner. ?I think that's why I like Enterprise best of all the series, they all seem so much more approachable to our real life scenarios....plus, he's really a cutie! Hey, I gotta be real, here...

Have you been reading my earlier posts, Tish?! :O Wow, you even TALK like me. 'Have much experience writing for college English courses? :D

I believe "grittiness" and "first human foray into space" are my exact words used in the same sentence once!

Fun new member to have 'round.

Oh, and you're right about the "cutie" part. AS WE'VE CONCLUSIVELY ESTABLISHED over on the hottest males thread, Trip's the "cutie", Archer's the show's "hottie". Sorry; that's just the way it is. :D

(PS - so-o, your family's from Texas? and now you're down under? I think that's what I've gleaned from posts. :) )

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Report this Mar. 09 2010, 5:38 pm

Quote (grigori @ Mar. 09 2010, 1:05 pm)
(PS - so-o, your family's from Texas? and now you're down under? I think that's what I've gleaned from posts. :) )

I have grandparents in Texas... Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts, Cousins, and I think a relatively big extended family.

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Report this Mar. 09 2010, 5:54 pm

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Mar. 09 2010, 4:38 pm)
Quote (grigori @ Mar. 09 2010, 1:05 pm)
(PS - so-o, your family's from Texas? and now you're down under? I think that's what I've gleaned from posts. :) )

I have grandparents in Texas... Grandparents, Uncles, Aunts, Cousins, and I think a relatively big extended family.

I was born and raised in Texas, am the 5th generation there, and as an adult have lived most of my life in the Lone Star State, along with most of my family... ( it's a big area, so we are still, at the most, 7 hours away from each other ! )

My comment on being in another hemisphere refers to travels I have made, in which I was on a plane for 12 + hours....so was affected by the jetlag a couple of days after arriving, which was weird ! )

And yes, grigori, I do write, edit, proofread on a collegiate level in my profession.....LOTS!! That's cool that we wrote similarly in a sentence; if you find where yours is let me know, I would like to read it, great minds think alike!  But be aware that I do have moments of typos, ramblings, and loss of words, especially when tired, so I will have those posts as well.  :)

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Report this Mar. 09 2010, 6:16 pm

Quote (tishkajaku @ Mar. 09 2010, 5:54 pm)
And yes, grigori, I do write, edit, proofread on a collegiate level in my profession.....LOTS!! That's cool that we wrote similarly in a sentence; if you find where yours is let me know, I would like to read it, great minds think alike! ¿But be aware that I do have moments of typos, ramblings, and loss of words, especially when tired, so I will have those posts as well. ¿:)

Ditto, and I sure don't even pay attention when others are relaxed with their language here as well. I've been paid to proof-read--but no one's paying me to proof-read HERE! so no worries. :)

I was in college 12 years and taught college 10 years but am not involved now. Just a private independent scholar. I studied writing/literature and taught theatre/film appreciation, so critiquing episodes of Trek is right up my alley...There have been some really interesting people here! It's just fun to talk with like-minded sci-fi folk.

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Report this Mar. 10 2010, 9:54 pm

Quote (grigori @ Feb. 14 2010, 12:18 pm)
I know: the Starfleet of TNG was a whole society unto itself, lots of room to move around in--and I'll bet the whole trajectory of one's career was pretty well mapped-out, too, after a couple hundred years. You knew what you could realistically expect.

But then again, I can see the argument that in EITHER era, you can't under-estimate someone's desire to remain on a particular ship--with a particular "family", would it were. On "generational" ships like Picard's, your roots may well reach deeper than just career concerns.

Conversely, someone like Tucker and Hoshi and the others might well want to remain on the ship that started it all--the first team that worked. Archer would not have wanted to lose his hot-shot, one-of-a-kind communications officer (but she should have gotten a promotion...), Reed would have probably enjoyed the prestige of being the armoury officer on what may well have been the flagship of the Romulan War, Tucker had no reason to leave "his" engine and best friend the Captain.

Really, I can see only Mayweather in a position to want to move up and out of the NX-01. Funny, in the books, that's exactly what he does.

Vipe's alternate idea for the finale of ENT got me to thinking--the idea that Trip actually survives everyone else and takes a command in the future.

So I stumbled on something in--sorry--TATV that reminded me of the above:

HOSHI: (to Travis) Have you given an answer to Captain Stillwell yet?
TRAVIS: I've asked him for a little more time, until Captain Archer decides what he's going to be doing.
REED: I'll bet you a month's pay he'll be on the bridge of a new ship. He won't be able to resist one of those warp seven beauties.
HOSHI: I've heard he's already been tapped for admiral.
TRAVIS: Malcolm's right. They'll never keep him behind a desk.
REED: It's very wise of you to stick with him. That's exactly what I plan to do.


...So, if it weren't for the Kobayashi Maru incident, I was wrong...! Mayweather was gonna stay with Archer after all. So was Reed.

And I don't think Archer would've let Hoshi with her unique talents, and now his friend, go.

So-o, comparing Trip to Riker...Tucker dies before we find out if he would've moved up and out after the Federation speech. And of course, the books never give us the chance to answer the question, either. We discussed Trip's aptitude for command over on the Evolution thread; now I wonder about his desire for it, when the time REALLY came, as it did for Riker.

T'Pol just says, in TATV, that she and Tucker are taking different assignments.

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Report this Apr. 08 2010, 5:23 am

Quote (ViperMan2000 @ Posted: Jan. 10 2010, 10:35 pm)
"How does William Riker relate to Charles Tucker III?" What are your thoughts?

hmmmm
I never thought these two could relate to each other...
Maaayybeee, maybe, if Riker had not gained so many kilos, there could have been a thought of comparing them...
Nah, I don't think so.

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Report this Apr. 15 2010, 6:07 pm

Quote (Serit @ Jan. 11 2010, 7:45 am)
Riker and Picard, by extension, were administrators. Trip was a technician

This is very good. Tucker is usually more hands on in a specific area. Riker usually works the whole picture in more as assistant CEO manner. Vice President of whole thing. Tucker is a fixer and Riker gets the best people to fix things. Tucker is more boyish in his enthusium. Riker is long seasoned confidence. Both smile easy and have fun at living. Tucker enjoys a lot playing and has wit and funny. Riker is not a lot playing and funny but does enjoy and laughing.

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Report this Apr. 15 2010, 7:20 pm

Hi OutOfTheChair! :) (unusual name)

I think you're right; Tucker just didn't have to look at the big picture, being Chief Engineer.

And yet, we know he was trained for command, and would've been First Officer if T'Pol hadn't been assigned there instead.

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Report this Apr. 15 2010, 7:51 pm

Quote (grigori @ April 15 2010, 7:20 pm)
Hi OutOfTheChair! :) (unusual name)

I think you're right; Tucker just didn't have to look at the big picture, being Chief Engineer.

And yet, we know he was trained for command, and would've been First Officer if T'Pol hadn't been assigned there instead.

Hello. My name is one of my favorite lines of Star Trek. nuSpock tells Kirk this.

Yes, T'Pol coming on board did fill first officer spot that Tucker could have had.

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Report this Apr. 15 2010, 10:10 pm

He seemed to be ok with that eventually.....and she realized his worth and used his insights often to help make decisions on this ship of humans, when she was put in command at Archer's absence.

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