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Where does Odo get his energy?

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 12:40 pm

That is a good point. Maybe he absorbs it from the molecules around him.

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 12:54 pm

Changeling physiology is never explained or even understood.  It's quite possible he absorbs it from the molecules around him, and if I had to write the explanation that's where I'd go with it.  Or there's some technobabble quantum multi-phasic flux nonsense explanation, but luckily Odo never guest starred on Voyager.

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 1:31 pm

He does have to revert back to his liquid state to regenerate.

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 2:51 pm

I always interpreted that as just a sleep analogy.  He's reverting to a state that requires less energy to maintain.  I don't see how that allows him to manufacture or procure the energy that he was expending in the first place.

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 2:56 pm

That's why I think he must absorb energy thru the molecules around him.

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Report this Jan. 07 2010, 3:18 pm

Makes as much sense as any other sci-fi explanation, I guess.

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Report this Jan. 09 2010, 4:03 pm

Photosynthesis.

He's really a plant.

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Report this Jan. 09 2010, 9:44 pm

Quote (OtakuJo @ Jan. 09 2010, 4:03 pm)
Photosynthesis.

He's really a plant.

Ha...  I like that, because it's much better than my explanation that he transmutes into a solar panel for at least 4 hours/day...

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Report this Jan. 10 2010, 5:14 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Jan. 10 2010, 12:18 am)
Where do atoms get their sustaining energy?

"... new life forms ..."

The answer to marshall8472's question could be the answer to much more than how a fictional being sustains itself.

:)

I'm not sure I'm following you - although I'm not a nuclear physicist either. ?On a macro level - I'd say that every lifeform that we deal with in a typical day gets it's energy either directly or indirectly from the sun. ?Now if you take that and extrapolate - I guess my solar panel idea isn't so goofy... ?well maybe... ?


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Report this Jan. 11 2010, 2:28 pm

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His theory also stated that "Changelings use some sort of subspace "pocket" to store additional mass during a morph." (AOL chat, 1997)

Must be the same place that the Transformers' mass goes to when they transform.

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Report this Jan. 11 2010, 2:31 pm

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Report this Jan. 11 2010, 3:01 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Jan. 11 2010, 2:53 pm)
One could ponder where water gets its energy to continue to exist. Since Odo is a fictional liquid lifeform, any speculation is best formulated using Occam's Razor. As Sir Isaac Newton stated the rule: "We are to admit no more causes of natural things than such as are both true and sufficient to explain their appearances."

Odo exists. Odo doesn't eat. Odo has mass and his natural state is in liquid form. Etc... Ergo, Odo is self sustaining and his only requirement is to return to liquid form to regenerate.

Water exists, but water is not ALIVE...

Odo is alive and is a complex organism.  This requires far more energy than just the energy needed to exist.  Water is a 3 atom molecule where atomic forces are inplay to hold the molecule together.  These same atomic forces are undoubtedly in play for Odo as well, but any higher lifeform requires far more energy than just that contained in atomic forces to maintain...  

I'm making alot of assumptions here, but since we don't really have much info to go on, I think my opinion is as valid and grounded as others.

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Report this Jan. 11 2010, 7:59 pm

Odo and the Changelings are full of mystery and wonder. I did not come up with an explanation here but I did look at the memory alpha page about Changelings. Here is one piece of information.

http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Changeling
"Changelings do grow and become larger and more massive, to a point. Is it unknown where the new mass and atoms come from, if they don't eat or drink. At one point Julian Bashir asked Odo for a sample of the biomimetic substance Odo is made of. Odo agreed, which begs the question how would ever recover that part of himself."

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Report this Jan. 12 2010, 10:23 am

Quote (trekbuff @ Jan. 11 2010, 6:04 pm)
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wesley's nanites need to eat ship stuff to get their energy though.

Wesley's nanites ate "ship stuff" to multiply...

And to multiply, would you not need energy?

I guess that's the beauty of the question, which is that we can all speculate...  I think you're idea about absorbing radiant heat holds water.

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Report this Jan. 13 2010, 12:39 am

Quote (RunnerX13 @ Jan. 11 2010, 2:28 pm)
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His theory also stated that "Changelings use some sort of subspace "pocket" to store additional mass during a morph." (AOL chat, 1997)

Must be the same place that the Transformers' mass goes to when they transform.

I thought the Transformers have the same mass when they transform. Or at least, the Transformer toys I played with as a kid certainly did / do. That having been said, however, I don't know if it has changed with the onset of the recent movies -- which I didn't really bother with. I still think of Transformers as being a cartoon I used to watch when I was six.

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