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Movie review - 11th movie

Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:20 am

First, for those who don't want to be ruined by the 11th movie, although its ruining enough, stop reading.

Now, for the remaining readers....I want to say that yes this another review for the 11th movie. ¿Some may be getting tired of them. ¿if you wish to leave. ¿You may do so.

Now, for the remaining...this is a discussion. ¿Not a fight. ¿If you do not feel you can peacefully discuss this...you may also leave.

Once again, for the final time to the remaining readers and possibly former readers of the 11th movie review I want to say this. ¿This conversation is for mature readers 18 plus only. ¿So if you are not 18 or an adult in your country please leave I would like to remind although my topic above suggests that. ¿Although, I would say the only people who seen the movie were that sense if I had a kid, I would not have let them see the movie.

Ok, now on with the review.

In my last review people indicated I have not seen the 11th movie.

I have and I hated it. ¿Despite with the Earth construction indacassy I loved the exterior part of the Enterprise. ¿And that the interior of the ship sucked, I liked the exterior of the thia Enterprise.

Now, I would like to start with the main issue. ¿Is this the Star Trek previously created. ¿NO. ¿they wiped out all activities in the Original series and started with JJ Abrams version do to the effects of the so called issue of the Red Matter experimented on Vulcan in our universe as they indicated 2387.

Now, lets start with the Red matter inconsistency. ¿It was said the Federation BANNED the research of red matter in the early 24th century. ¿And according to the older Spock the Federation and Star Fleet condoned ilegal research. ¿This is FACT.

Now, moving onto with crew inconstancy pickings. ¿The new Scotty seems like he needs to return to cleaning out the sewers and isn't worthy with the part. ¿Spock and Uhura having sex? ¿Why not just have McCoy and Kirk #### in the corridor? ¿Seriously. ¿OK. ¿if the board wants to ban me for saying that. ¿They should ban JJ for having the new Kirk getting caught ####ing with the green woman in bed. ¿Now. ¿You cant ban me for that one either because that is what happened. ¿As for there new theme for when a attack happens to go into a musical mode...When the Kalvin was attacked by the alien ship, and the music played I seriously thought it was pornographic in nature. ¿I could picture them replacing the visual seen of such. ¿This I don't like because it removes the seriousness of the situation. ¿Now back to the crew, the new Kirk and Spock seem like action sex dolls. ¿Which discussed me. ¿Finally, the new Checkov, the only thing they got right was the voice. ¿HE DID NOT seem to be of the culture that he was. ¿OK. ¿Lets open it to Our enemy...Same theme as the 11th movie with nearly the same general format when you get passed the reboot. ¿The creepy crazy enemy which has DONE by trek over and over. ¿Its time to go another angle. ¿The Wrath of Khan was ok. ¿Next used again with the borg queen, but this time worth it. ¿Now with the ninth movie, it was at least interesting...lightly focused on there crazy enemy. ¿Uh...the one one Picard battled on the solar collector...however, next to the science discovery of the area...the movie was more of a filler. ¿The tenth movie, the only problem was that it was a POOR version of Picard on the other ship. ¿Although the movie did have a purpose...Continuing on we are facing a serous war and the changing of the structure of the Federation to MAKE it more interesting. ¿Instead, they ditched it for JJ Abrams movie which recirculated it so the movie seemed more like Star Wars. ¿ Again the same old argument by now. ¿I will skip it because you get the gist of this one. ¿Now the above issues are more in depth.

Moving on...the main fact is it wiped out Star Trek as we know it. ¿If they so wish to, recrissen the 11th movie and any others on JJ abrams as Star Trek II, so we know its thia Trek.

This is my final veiw. ¿I give this movie 1/10 a 1 because I enjoyed the ship. ¿The new crew I did not. ¿My friend who is a Trekie agrees.

Anyway, if the insist on continuing on JJ Abrams version. ¿Do not expect me or my freind to watch.

So to those who are loyal to original series and watch the this version of trek. ¿Which can be accurately be called RAPE trek which is cantadally accurate sense every time they go into action they go into a RAPE theme. ¿So don't block this on the count of that. ¿because it was created not by me, but by JJ Abrams and his RAPE theme for Star Trek.

So, to those who don't want this thing discussed on the board, things of this level.  Well...lets make star trek more appropraite and I wont.  because...1, 2, 3 and its strike out for kids watching.  I took steps to warn them away from this topic because I knew in no way was it going to be so.

This is my final peace for the 11th movie which will sit on my shelf and collect dust.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:33 am

Well I'm dissapointed.

...with a thread heading like that I was expecting this to be a review of one of the Trek p0rn movies! :laugh:

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:45 am

Paging Dr. Freud!!! This guy is seeing sex in everything!!!

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:48 am

Quote (starbase63 @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:38 pm)
There's been a few of those!

Links, or they never happened!

:laugh:

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:52 am

Although, you know what...I'm bored, so I'll play along...

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Despite with the Earth construction indacassy I loved the exterior part of the Enterprise. ?And that the interior of the ship sucked, I liked the exterior of the thia Enterprise.

I didn't like the interior of the Enterprise either. And even my sister, who has only seen a handful of TOS episodes and a couple of the movies said "what HAVE they done to the Enterprise!"

However, on the subject of visuals, I DID think the Narada looked suitably imposing from the outside, especially the first time we see it emerge from the black hole.
Internally it was just the Death Star!

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Now, lets start with the Red matter inconsistency. ?It was said the Federation BANNED the research of red matter in the early 24th century. ?And according to the older Spock the Federation and Star Fleet condoned ilegal research. ?This is FACT.

All I can say about the red matter concept, and in fact, Spock Prime's involvement in the situation at all, is that I understand and accept it all a whole lot more since I read the synopses for the Countdown comic.

Now a film should NOT have to rely on the audience already having read a comic for it to make sense, and this will probably be the new issue that I go on and on about here...but I think if they had added a bit more of the detail from the comic into the actual film, it would have made for a significantly better storyline.

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Now, moving onto with crew inconstancy pickings. ?The new Scotty seems like he needs to return to cleaning out the sewers and isn't worthy with the part.

I agree that the new Scotty doesn't seem 'worthy' somehow. I'm usually a massive fan of Simon Pegg, and for me the jury's still out on whether his approach as an actor, or the direction was to blame...but he's NOT the miracle worker of the Enterprise that I was expecting.

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Spock and Uhura having sex? Why not just have McCoy and Kirk **** in the corridor?

Oh my god. Where's MG? :laugh:

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
As for there new theme for when a attack happens to go into a musical mode...When the Kalvin was attacked by the alien ship, and the music played I seriously thought it was p0rnographic in nature. ?I could picture them replacing the visual seen of such. ?This I don't like because it removes the seriousness of the situation.

I quite liked the music. Of course it in no way matched up to Goldsmith's contributions...but then again, what does?

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
OK. ?Lets open it to Our enemy...Same theme as the 11th movie with nearly the same general format when you get passed the reboot. ?The creepy crazy enemy which has DONE by trek over and over. ?Its time to go another angle.

I agree that Nero was possibly the weakest thing about the film. But again, all I can really say is that reading the Countdown synopses helped me to accept him that little bit easier.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:54 am

Quote (starbase63 @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:26 am)
Think ?you could ?take a moment ?and edit out all the ?(bleep)ing annoying ?question marks?

?:logical:

The edit mode did that, I had to make a update and the question marks went funny and the bleeps...were programmed into the board.

Anyway.  this is off topic.  The topic was the 11th movie.

Not Star Treks server.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:55 am

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:33 am)
Well I'm dissapointed.

...with a thread heading like that I was expecting this to be a review of one of the Trek p0rn movies! :laugh:

11th movie is a porn movie in a sense...lol...so the joke is on them.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:57 am

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:45 am)
Paging Dr. Freud!!! This guy is seeing sex in everything!!!

No I don't.  But thats what it was.  A sex theme in the music.

And what did you think the Green woman and the new Kirk were doing when the new Uhura walked in?

No, there cuddling like 2 children or it was normal socialization...lol.

I think not.

Oh, yes...I forgot the ROMULAN.

If you want to call him a romulan.  he was Deafently not a ROMULAN.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 11:58 am

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 12:55 pm)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:33 am)
Well I'm dissapointed.

...with a thread heading like that I was expecting this to be a review of one of the Trek p0rn movies! :laugh:

11th movie is a porn movie in a sense...lol...so the joke is on them.

I think you're seeing sex where it doesn't exist. For example, you said that Uhura and Spock had sex and unless you saw a deleted scene no one else saw then that is just not true.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:00 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:58 pm)
I think you're seeing sex where it doesn't exist. For example, you said that Uhura and Spock had sex and unless you saw a deleted scene no one else saw then that is just not true.

Well all I can say is...I want to see the version of the movie that HE saw!

:laugh:

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:02 pm

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:20 am)
My friend who is a Trekie agrees.

How can we argue with this kind of support?

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:07 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:52 am)
Although, you know what...I'm bored, so I'll play along...

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Despite with the Earth construction indacassy I loved the exterior part of the Enterprise. ?And that the interior of the ship sucked, I liked the exterior of the thia Enterprise.

I didn't like the interior of the Enterprise either. And even my sister, who has only seen a handful of TOS episodes and a couple of the movies said "what HAVE they done to the Enterprise!"

However, on the subject of visuals, I DID think the Narada looked suitably imposing from the outside, especially the first time we see it emerge from the black hole.
Internally it was just the Death Star!

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Now, lets start with the Red matter inconsistency. ?It was said the Federation BANNED the research of red matter in the early 24th century. ?And according to the older Spock the Federation and Star Fleet condoned ilegal research. ?This is FACT.

All I can say about the red matter concept, and in fact, Spock Prime's involvement in the situation at all, is that I understand and accept it all a whole lot more since I read the synopses for the Countdown comic.

Now a film should NOT have to rely on the audience already having read a comic for it to make sense, and this will probably be the new issue that I go on and on about here...but I think if they had added a bit more of the detail from the comic into the actual film, it would have made for a significantly better storyline.

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Now, moving onto with crew inconstancy pickings. ?The new Scotty seems like he needs to return to cleaning out the sewers and isn't worthy with the part.

I agree that the new Scotty doesn't seem 'worthy' somehow. I'm usually a massive fan of Simon Pegg, and for me the jury's still out on whether his approach as an actor, or the direction was to blame...but he's NOT the miracle worker of the Enterprise that I was expecting.

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
Spock and Uhura having sex? Why not just have McCoy and Kirk **** in the corridor?

Oh my god. Where's MG? :laugh:

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
As for there new theme for when a attack happens to go into a musical mode...When the Kalvin was attacked by the alien ship, and the music played I seriously thought it was p0rnographic in nature. ?I could picture them replacing the visual seen of such. ?This I don't like because it removes the seriousness of the situation.

I quite liked the music. Of course it in no way matched up to Goldsmith's contributions...but then again, what does?

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:20 pm)
OK. ?Lets open it to Our enemy...Same theme as the 11th movie with nearly the same general format when you get passed the reboot. ?The creepy crazy enemy which has DONE by trek over and over. ?Its time to go another angle.

I agree that Nero was possibly the weakest thing about the film. But again, all I can really say is that reading the Countdown synopses helped me to accept him that little bit easier.

Wow.  You very a little.  But your closer too me.

Quesion.  What did you mean by MG?

Now, I didn't say I did not like the actor.  I never seen him before.  he is good at it.  but I don't think he is right for this part.  He should be playing parts aria place - A lonely Engeneer a slueth with a sense of humor.  I would watch a comedy about him in that scenerio.

Now, your comment on having to watch other movies to be able to watch this one.

Now, Quite often I don't find you have to watch things prevously.  Maybe a little for the First Contact movie, but you can get by not watching other things.  to dip in.

The thing is if you don't cross connect it, then you got light filler movies.  Quite often in a series when activity in another series comes up, they will talk about it.

When they began with the Borg on Voyager, they actually took a scene with Jainway in her ready room to give symphocess.

So you could get by.

Its not that I didn't liked the music.  its just the music gave the action a rape theme.  My freind also agreed.  Just watch the movie again.  you will see what I mean.

All in all, you and I agree except for minor differences.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:09 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:58 am)
Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 12:55 pm)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:33 am)
Well I'm dissapointed.

...with a thread heading like that I was expecting this to be a review of one of the Trek p0rn movies! :laugh:

11th movie is a porn movie in a sense...lol...so the joke is on them.

I think you're seeing sex where it doesn't exist. For example, you said that Uhura and Spock had sex and unless you saw a deleted scene no one else saw then that is just not true.

no I said they were having a sexual relationship or did you miss the scene in the transporter room?

I said that the new Kirk was with a green female in bed.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:10 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Jan. 06 2010, 12:00 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Jan. 05 2010, 5:58 pm)
I think you're seeing sex where it doesn't exist. For example, you said that Uhura and Spock had sex and unless you saw a deleted scene no one else saw then that is just not true.

Well all I can say is...I want to see the version of the movie that HE saw!

:laugh:

I saw the 11th movie Ms. Star Buck made by JJ abrams.

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Report this Jan. 06 2010, 12:11 pm

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Jan. 05 2010, 12:57 pm)
Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Jan. 06 2010, 11:45 am)
Paging Dr. Freud!!! This guy is seeing sex in everything!!!

No I don't. ¿But thats what it was. ¿A sex theme in the music.

And what did you think the Green woman and the new Kirk were doing when the new Uhura walked in?

No, there cuddling like 2 children or it was normal socialization...lol.

I think not.

Oh, yes...I forgot the ROMULAN.

If you want to call him a romulan. ¿he was Deafently not a ROMULAN.

I completely disagree that there was a sex theme in the music.

I guess you're going to have to define of what you think of as sex. If you're generalizing and using the term broadly then you have a point.

However, in our culture sex usually means sexual intercourse and there was not any of that in the movie.

Kirk and Gayla may have reached that point but they were interrupted.

All the physical contact between Uhura and Spock was in the name of comforting Spock through this difficult time it was not for sexual gratification.

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