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Next Generation Reboot

Whitestar7

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Report this Jan. 08 2010, 2:21 pm

Quote (Vger23 @ Jan. 03 2010, 11:14 pm)
TNG won't be rebooted. This question comes up at least 3 times a month now.

TNG doesn't have the mass-appeal or cultural recongition that TOS had. TNG was essentially a "remake" of TOS (albeit a very GOOD remake). The likelihood of their "rebooting" a "remake" are slim to none.

I agree with you that TNG does not have mass appeal because the characters were way too perfect, dull and uninteresting. They always did the right thing and kept their hands clean, unlike TOS and DS9. This is not the fault of the writers because they wanted to create characters with flaws and personal demons and issues, however, Roddenberry had them on a tight leash. It is certainly possible to create heroic, but flawed characters. TNG had a great opportunity but missed out on it. Just think how much better would TNG would have turned out if the writers were given more freedom.

Both TOS and DS9 were more realistic and fun. Still, what's done is done, however, if a TNG remake came to fruition, future writers will have a chance to start on a clean slate and create more realistic, flawed and better characters compared to their original counterparts. Let's hope Abrams and his team keep this in mind once they decide to focuse on TNG era.

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Report this Jan. 08 2010, 4:06 pm

Quote (Whitestar7 @ Jan. 08 2010, 2:21 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ Jan. 03 2010, 11:14 pm)
TNG won't be rebooted. This question comes up at least 3 times a month now.

TNG doesn't have the mass-appeal or cultural recongition that TOS had. TNG was essentially a "remake" of TOS (albeit a very GOOD remake). The likelihood of their "rebooting" a "remake" are slim to none.

I agree with you that TNG does not have mass appeal because the characters were way too perfect, dull and uninteresting. They always did the right thing and kept their hands clean, unlike TOS and DS9. This is not the fault of the writers because they wanted to create characters with flaws and personal demons and issues, however, Roddenberry had them on a tight leash. It is certainly possible to create heroic, but flawed characters. TNG had a great opportunity but missed out on it. Just think how much better would TNG would have turned out if the writers were given more freedom.

Both TOS and DS9 were more realistic and fun. Still, what's done is done, however, if a TNG remake came to fruition, future writers will have a chance to start on a clean slate and create more realistic, flawed and better characters compared to their original counterparts. Let's hope Abrams and his team keep this in mind once they decide to focuse on TNG era.

i know your right what has been done has been done but there is such thing as a hair designer i mean they did it with data but now that i think of it they propobly did do picards HEAD they maybe shined it to make it look more shiny whenever i see picard on a star trek show his head does look more shiny.

Pooneil

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Report this Jan. 09 2010, 6:03 pm

Marina Sirtis and Gates McFadden did indeed wear wigs for some reason. So did Brent Spiner and Michael Dorn. However, the wearing of wigs shouldn't have any impact on the quality of the show, and certainly does not make DS9 the better series.

I've read this "reboot" idea several times and I still can't figure out why. Same with the idea that the next Trek movie will have Khan as the villain. I kinda get why making a new Kirk&Spock movie makes sense, creatively and financially, but I don't see why that automatically means that a remake of TNG is inevitable. A new Trek series might happen, possibly as a "next generation" of sorts to the 2009 movie, but there's no rational reason for it to be a TNG reboot with Picard, Data, et al.

Are reboots of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise also inevitable? Are these same characters and plots going to be recycled every twenty years like clockwork? Will Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto ever travel back to San Fransisco, circa 2012, to save the wales? Will Shia Lebeouf be cast as Picard, Data, or Riker?

Whitestar7

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Report this Jan. 09 2010, 6:45 pm

Quote (Pooneil @ Jan. 08 2010, 7:03 pm)
I've read this "reboot" idea several times and I still can't figure out why. Same with the idea that the next Trek movie will have Khan as the villain. I kinda get why making a new Kirk&Spock movie makes sense, creatively and financially, but I don't see why that automatically means that a remake of TNG is inevitable. A new Trek series might happen, possibly as a "next generation" of sorts to the 2009 movie, but there's no rational reason for it to be a TNG reboot with Picard, Data, et al.

Are reboots of DS9, Voyager, and Enterprise also inevitable? Are these same characters and plots going to be recycled every twenty years like clockwork? Will Chris Pine and Zachary Quinto ever travel back to San Fransisco, circa 2012, to save the wales? Will Shia Lebeouf be cast as Picard, Data, or Riker?

Well, a reboot of TNG doesn't necessarily have to feature Picard and his crew, it could be like a "TNG" of sorts like you said. However, with the recent craze of remakes this days, Hollywood will most likely do it anyway because that is the way they work. Personally, I would prefer a brand new Star Trek series, featuring new characters with a renegade crew full of misfits. :cool:

EmpokNorStationManager

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Report this Jan. 09 2010, 9:37 pm

Let's get through the reboot of TOS first....  geesh...  we have a single movie rebooting TOS and now all four series are up for remake.  

I think we have a LONG way to go before considering any reboot of TNG, DS9, or VGR.  Besides, the arguement can be made that none of those series exist in their canon-form...  characters, technology, etc could deviate greatly...  Just look at how much they've deviated so far...

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Report this Jan. 11 2010, 9:45 am

Quote (Vger23 @ Jan. 04 2010, 10:14 pm)
TNG won't be rebooted. This question comes up at least 3 times a month now.

TNG doesn't have the mass-appeal or cultural recongition that TOS had. TNG was essentially a "remake" of TOS (albeit a very GOOD remake). The likelihood of their "rebooting" a "remake" are slim to none.

No. TNG was insanely popular. Today's young adults are more able to tell you who the TNG characters are than ones in TOS. Your right that TOS has more of a cultural impact, however, that was more when the series aired and in the 80s. I think TNGs popularity should not be discounted; its reruns are replayed more often than any other star trek show.

Do I want them to reboot TNG? Not really. Recasting captain picard will be stupid. They had a young picard in nemesis, and I dont think he'd be a good captain, even when he was evil.

The whole reason they chose to reboot TOS was because todays kids don't really know its characters very well and because they can get away with a lot more than if they did TNG, which is still fresh in our memory.

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Report this Jan. 14 2010, 9:35 am

I new they had wiggs, even saw Marina Sirtis talking about it and about the fact that the women had a special bra..even her Deanna..
but in the episodes of Voyager and Nemesis I saw that Marina acted without the wigg and she was also pretty..
I think I would mind if they decide to make  another TNG... What's been- it's over and it's better this way...
I would like instead a new Star Trek with a new crew and new stories to enjoy our hearts and brain
Arrivederci!

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Report this Aug. 18 2010, 7:11 am

I think there shouldn't be a reboot for the TNG. If they do it should be made in the far future.


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Report this Aug. 18 2010, 1:40 pm

As far as myself, I'd say no...the series should remain as-is, essentially. It's a classic all its own, and there's no question..Patrick Stewart took Jean-Luc, and made him into a captain second only in the minds of so very many to James Shatner Kirk.....


''If I were captain, i'd open every crack in the universe, and peek inside, just like Captain Janeway does''-Kes, ''The Cloud''

2takesfrakes

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Report this Aug. 18 2010, 6:17 pm

Thank god they're not going to be rebooting TNG,
or any other series in the franchise.

miraclescott

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Report this Aug. 18 2010, 10:10 pm

I don't think we'll see a TNG reboot; the only Trek reboot will end with the TOS crew. I love the TNG crew, but I don't think they carry the weight the original crew did, does or will.

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Report this Aug. 19 2010, 12:46 pm

I would rather see a new series than a reboot of an existing one. While I'd prefer the prime universe to the Abramsverse, either will do as long as it's original. I'd love to see a new TV series, but there's only one Captain Picard, and there's certainly only one Data.

miraclescott

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Report this Aug. 20 2010, 5:17 pm

I agree. No more reboots. To paraphrase Seinfeld, "Just dip it once...and LEAVE it!"

2takesfrakes

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Report this Aug. 20 2010, 10:08 pm

TOS needed to be remade because of it's Velveta-like camp.
But TNG was ... just perfect! You can't improve what's at
its zenith, you know? Screw around with Voyager, or DS9,
if you must! Nevertheless, there's only one way to do Data,
if they ever foolishly attempt to do so: As a CGI and/or
puppet combination. Watching androids age presents problems.

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