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Dec. 17 2009, 11:53 am
BTW, on trekmovie.com, there was a note wrt an insider/industry analysis or something like that wrt the Academy award nominations for best picture. ¿ It's looking like ST XI won't get nominated. ¿Apparently, there is more gravitation towards indie films, particularly dramas, basically more of the same. ¿The Academy appears to be using the additional 5 nominations to recognize more of those films. ¿ WRT the Golden Globe nominations, from Trekmovie.com: | Quote |
More Golden Globes Fallout
As noted on Monday, Access Hollywood and ¿the Hollywood Reporter (with James Cameron agreeing) noted the lack of Star Trek in the Golden Globes announcement. Now E Online also picks up the meme that in recent years the award season voters are ignoring good films that are popular. Here is an excerpt:
Hollywood knows you liked New Moon and Star Trek and Transformers 2?it?s wallowing around in all that Twilight cash as I write this. But by nominating brutal fare like Precious and Hurt Locker for Globes and (I?m sure) Oscars, it?s saying, "Here?s what you should like?ya tools."
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Expect more of the same for the Academy awards. It looks like opening up the nominations from 5 to 10, which was very controversial this year, has backfired on the Awards producers, at least its looking that way. They were hoping, from what I read, to get more popular films nominated so that there would be more interest in watching the show. Now, it's looking like that won't be happening, at least not to the degree they wished. I think ST stands a good chance of being nominated for the technical categories and possibly the score and maybe even Abrams for director, but I just can't see it getting a nomination for best picture, and definitely not for any acting categories or even screenplay. |
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Dec. 17 2009, 12:39 pm
| Quote (Kornula @ Dec. 16 2009, 3:25 pm) | | Yeah ¿Trek "0" has a story.. but its pushed to the side for the excessive flat characters. |
Those flat characters still have a lot more terrain than a lot of previous Trek characters, so take that as you will. | Quote | | Just those two points alone make this a film even lower than any michael Bay fiasco... |
You're trying waaay too hard now. Possibly overcompensating for your opinion. You're train of thought is "I'll say anything, and I mean a-n-y-t-h-i-n-g, just to bring the film down, no matter how dumb it ends up sounding." Next you'll be comparing it to natural world disasters or a dirty diaper smeared on the wall or something really dumb. | Quote | Its a mediocre film compiled with cheap filmmaking gimmicks...
how is this oscar worthy?? |
You've confused your own skewered opinion as some sort of "fact" and you think it's what everyone else thinks. They don't. |
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Dec. 17 2009, 4:48 pm
| Quote (rocketscientist @ Dec. 17 2009, 11:53 am) | | I think ST stands a good chance of being nominated for the technical categories and possibly the score and maybe even Abrams for director, but I just can't see it getting a nomination for best picture, and definitely not for any acting categories or even screenplay. |
Yep. But I really can't see JJ getting a Oscar nom for best director. It's just not going to happen folks. |
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Dec. 18 2009, 4:55 pm
ST being shut out of the Golden Globes doesn't surprise me since that award is voted on by the Foreign Press. Those dang foreigners have never been big fans of ST fans, just check the box office for ST world wide compared to domestic. For some reason the rest of the world sees ST as being too pro "American".
That said, I too had hopes that ST might get a best picture AA nod, since that category has been increased to ten. I've since changed my mind. ST just isn't considered "important" or "serious" enough of a film to be recognized despite it being a critical and financial success.
It might get tech nods but won't win due to Avatar. While it was extremely well done it isn't ground breaking, the way Avatar is.
My prediction.....some tech votes, sound, editing etc. but won't win a thing. Too bad.
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Dec. 19 2009, 12:07 am
| Quote (RomulusRemus @ Dec. 10 2009, 2:13 am) | | Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Dec. 09 2009, 11:16 pm) | | Well IF Star Trek XI is nominated and wins at least one Oscar than the haters on this board might as well go silent. I doubt if it will win best picture, yet it will be exciting just to have TREK at the Oscars. |
I wouldn't go silent.
1) The movie would still suck even if it was nominated.
2) I don't pay attention to award shows of any kind. They are a waste of time. |
Wow, your cool. You dont like the new Trek. You're SOOOO non-conformist. Seriously, you wouldn know a good movie if it sat in your lap and called you daddy. As a HUGE movie fan/wannabe critic, I loved the film. The pace, which is why a bunch of TOS loyalists dislike it, worked perfectly. |
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Dec. 19 2009, 2:40 am
| Quote (Mirrorgirl @ Dec. 09 2009, 11:54 pm) | | It would really be a dream come true for me. |
i was very upset when TNG lost in the best drama category in the emey's's for their 7th season. i still am |
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Dec. 19 2009, 2:47 am
| Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 16 2009, 12:42 pm) | | Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Dec. 15 2009, 6:34 pm) | | Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 16 2009, 9:13 am) | | I haven't seen Inglorious Basterds yet...I'm not a huge fan of Tarantino though, so didn't think it would really be my thing. |
I think he would bring in an even more massive influx of fans. He would definately be original in his take on TREK. |
With all due respect Bax, this suggestion fills me with horror!
Tarantino only makes one type of film, and that is a Tarantino film. I'm not saying that's bad, but I don't think that he could easily fit into any established franchise and deliver something that would sit at all comfortably alongside what has gone before.
A Tarantino-directed Trek film would be a Tarantino film and NOT a Trek film...if that makes sense. |
if tarantino makes a trek movie then would we see a big mac on Quonos? and what would the klingons call a big mac? |
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Dec. 19 2009, 2:54 am
| Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Dec. 15 2009, 6:19 pm) | I don't like the fact that they are nominating films for awards that haven't been released yet. Avatar should not be nominated unless its in theaters when the nominations are announced.
Best Motion Picture -- Drama
Avatar
The Hurt Locker
Inglorious Basterds
Precious
Up in the Air
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture -- Drama
Emily Blunt, The Young Victoria
Sandra Bullock, The Blind Side
Helen Mirren, The Last Station
Carey Mulligan, An Education
Gabourey Sadibe, Precious
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture -- Drama
Jeff Bridges, Crazy Heart
George Clooney, Up in the Air
Colin Firth, A Single Man
Morgan Freeman, Invictus
Tobey Maguire, Brothers
Best Motion Picture -- Musical or Comedy
(500) Days of Summer
The Hangover
It's Complicated
Julie & Julia
Nine
Best Performance by an Actress in a Motion Picture -- Musical or Comedy
Sandra Bullock, The Proposal
Marion Cotillard, Nine
Meryl Streep, It's Complicated
Meryl Streep, Julie and Julia
Julia Roberts, Duplicity
Best Performance by an Actor in a Motion Picture -- Musical or Comedy
Matt Damon, The Informant
Daniel Day Lewis, Nine
Robert Downey Jr., Sherlock Holmes
Joseph Gordon Levitt, (500) Days of Summer
Michael Stuhlbarg, A Serious Man
Best Performance by an Actress in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture
Mo-Nique, Precious
Julianne Moore, A Single Man
Anna Kendrick, Up in the Air
Vera Farmiga, Up in the Air
Penelope Cruz, Nine
Best Performance by an Actor in a Supporting Role in a Motion Picture
Matt Damon, Invictus
Stanley Tucci, The Lovely Bones
Christopher Plummer, The Last Station
Christopher Waltz, Inglorious Basterds
Woody Harrelson, The Messenger
Best Animated Feature Film
Coraline
The Fantastic Mr. Fox
Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs
The Princess and the Frog
Up
Best Foreign Language Film
Barria
Broken Embraces
A Prophet
The White Ribbon
The Maid
Best Director -- Motion Picture
Kathryn Bigelow, The Hurt Locker
James Cameron, Avatar
Clint Eastwood, Invictus
Jason Reitman, Up in the Air
Quentin Tarantino, Inglorious Basterds
Best Screenplay -- Motion Picture
Up in the Air
It's Complicated
District 9
The Hurt Locker
Inglorious Basterds
Best Original Score -- Motion Picture
Michael Giacchino, Up
Marvin Hamlisch, The Informant
James Horner, Avatar
Abel Krozeniowski, A Single Man
Karen O. and Carter Burwell, Where the Wild Things Are
Best Original Song -- Motion Picture
"I Will See You," Avatar
"The Weary Kind," The Crazy Heart
"Winter," Brothers
"Cinema Italiano," Nine
"I Want to Come Home," Everybody's Fine |
well james horner is nominated. he composed alot of treks music in the movies so i guess thats something |
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Dec. 19 2009, 11:47 am
| Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 15 2009, 6:08 pm) | As far as the GG's go, Avatar is up for film, director, score and song.
What makes me even happier is that The Hurt Locker is up for quite a few too...I thought that was a fantastic (and rather underrated) film.
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I wanted to see that one! It was at the indie theater here, but my wife didn't want to see it.  I want to see Jeff Bridge's Crazy Heart. He's supposed to be wonderful in it and I've always liked him. Plus, I have a soft spot for real country music, not the over-produced and mas-marketed crossover stuff. Who was KB married to btw? |
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Dec. 19 2009, 11:55 am
| Quote (SpaceClown77 @ Dec. 17 2009, 4:48 pm) | | Quote (rocketscientist @ Dec. 17 2009, 11:53 am) | | I think ST stands a good chance of being nominated for the technical categories and possibly the score and maybe even Abrams for director, but I just can't see it getting a nomination for best picture, and definitely not for any acting categories or even screenplay. |
Yep. But I really can't see JJ getting a Oscar nom for best director. It's just not going to happen folks. |
You're probably right SC. Well, who cares anyway. I just think it's funny that the Academy's attempt to get more popular films nominated by increasing the nominations for best film from 5 to 10 so that more people would watch the Awards show blew up in their face (apparently). I didn't like that move to begin with. I hope it's out next year. And, anyway, who cares if ST gets a nomination or not? Does it actually need more validation than its box office performance and critical accolades? I don't think so. I mean, TWOK, TSFS, and TVH are pretty much regarded as classic films now. They were shown at Robert Redfords classic Aero theater in SM (shown in a lot of movies by the way, i.e. Get Shorty): http://www.americancinematheque.com/Aero/aeromastercalendar.htmNone of those films got nominated for best picture either. And there are lots of other great films that go on to be classics that don't either. |
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Dec. 27 2009, 7:10 pm
How lovely it would be for StarTrek to claim an Oscar! I, personally, would indeed nominate it for the several catagories in which it struck me (as in personal: opinion, taste, preference, me) it was truly Oscar worthy (and being a lonnnnggg term appreciator of movies great and small I do indeed value my opinion there). I do believe an Oscar would definitely be in order in at least one of several categories. I would 'like' to see it win a mainstream Oscar. You know, one of the big categories. I see that could very much continue to move our Trek world another step out of the sub-class viewing that we have always been relagated to, and which Ronald D. Moore's re-imagined (booted/whatever) BSG has had great effect in beginning.
Oh yes, and I am one of "those people" who actually DO see it as very Oscar worthy. I am an avid movie watcher, interested in every single aspect of who.what.which.where.why.& how movies, films, and television are made so I do not say this lightly, nor do I feel I am unduly biased by my enthusiasm regarding StarTrek. I am sentimental toward all things StarTrek, although this is the very first time in my life I have considered one of our movies to be Oscar material. It also never effected my attachment to our movies one way or another. I just happen to think this is a pretty spectacular movie, even if it were not StarTrek, and even if I was not a StarTrek enthusiast.
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Dec. 27 2009, 9:13 pm
| Quote (Vger23 @ Dec. 13 2009, 12:18 pm) | | Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 14 2009, 10:06 am) | | Quote (VAD_BAXTER @ Dec. 13 2009, 3:21 pm) | [quote=MrsStarbuck,Dec. 14 2009, 3:13 am]
Your in the early stages of becoming a die hard Trekkie/Trekker. |
What other symptoms should I look out for? |
Just don't let it ever get to the final (terminal) stages. It's better to exist in a space just before that happens...take it from me.
Symptoms include:
1. Feeling entitled to have Star Trek be done YOUR WAY, and not the way that apparently the rest of the population feels it should be done.
2. Becoming arrogant to the point where you firmly believe that Star Trek is something that goes far beyond entertainment, and that you are in a position to judge what "good Trek" is and is not.
3. Taking the entire thing WAAAYYYYY too seriously such that it acutally generates strong negative emotions in you when you are disappointed and/or don't get a show or movie that fits the mold you've come to appreciate.
4. Picking apart DETAILS that are inconsistent with "canon" and (more importantly) allowing that to interfere with your pure enjoyment of the story and how it is presented. It's not a real universe. It should never be SO important to someone that mistakes which expose it as being "not real" cause hate and discontent. It should never be more of a source of anger and disapointment than a source of fun and joy.
I think if you can hover on the line JUST BEFORE you get to this point, you'll have achieved hardcore Star Trek Fan Zen.
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Well said! Oh yeah. Yes. Indeed. Un huh. |
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Dec. 27 2009, 10:07 pm
| Quote (rocketscientist @ Dec. 18 2009, 5:47 pm) | | Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 15 2009, 6:08 pm) | | It would be nice to see Kathryn Bigelow kick her ex-hubby's a$$ on Oscars night |
Who was KB married to btw? |
James Cameron |
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Dec. 27 2009, 10:31 pm
I want to achieve hardcore Star Trek Fan Zen  |
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Dec. 28 2009, 11:26 am
| Quote (Mirrorgirl @ Dec. 26 2009, 11:31 pm) | | I want to achieve hardcore Star Trek Fan Zen |
My dear, you are already Zen in your hard core fandom. I have never seen anything but happy enthusium in your posts, and you have enthusium to the nth degree. You are the model of the Zen hard core fan. |
