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What was your life like 10 years ago?

Goodchild

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:21 am

Hows thing MS? How's the JMcC thing holding up for you?

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:24 am

Well, I was 10 and going to grade school. Now I'm deploying in 4 months...

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:40 am

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Quote (Cruervo @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:24 am)
Well, I was 10 and going to grade school. Now I'm deploying in 4 months...

Wishing you lots of luck, I hope things will go well for you...

How has it been different for you?

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:42 am

Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 06 2009, 12:36 am)
Quote (Goodchild @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:21 am)
Hows thing MS? How's the JMcC thing holding up for you?

Hey, things are good, just busy with stuff like school. :) How are you?

Sorry, just need a quick clarification, hope it's not a stupid question--JMcC? Is that Macca-related?

I for some reason gel Paul and John together?

Sorry bud.

Good otherwise, things are quickly changing for me.  :)

Any plans outside of the obvious?

:)

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:51 am

Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 05 2009, 5:49 am)
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How has it been different for you?

Well, 10 years ago, I was 16. I was still living under my parents' roof, never had a boyfriend, and I swore up and down I would never get into anything science-related. I thought I was only going to major in the humanities in school. Oh yeah, and I didn't give a flip about "Star Trek." Who the hell watches that (my mentality back then)?

Now I'm married to a hardcore math and science nerd, I'm pursuing a master of science degree in graduate school, and I'm a Trekkie (mostly TOS but TNG too). I was reflecting on all of this and I feel that the 16 year old version of myself would be shocked to see how things have changed. :laugh:

Wow. Im pursuing an International Relations major myself

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:57 am

Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 05 2009, 5:54 am)
Quote (Cruervo @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:51 am)
Wow. Im pursuing an International Relations major myself

That has always sounded like an interesting major to me. I'm assuming you'd have to take lots of different languages too?

No, just your area of focus. I'm actually a little worried about that part because I am rated to have almost zero aptitude for other languages. But I love studying other cultures and understanding how other people think.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 4:58 am

Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 06 2009, 12:52 am)
Quote (Goodchild @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:42 am)
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Quote (Goodchild @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:21 am)
Hows thing MS? How's the JMcC thing holding up for you?

Hey, things are good, just busy with stuff like school. :) How are you?

Sorry, just need a quick clarification, hope it's not a stupid question--JMcC? Is that Macca-related?

I for some reason gel Paul and John together?

Sorry bud.

Good otherwise, things are quickly changing for me. ?:)

Any plans outside of the obvious?

:)

Haha, it's okay. I still heart Paul McCartney, always will. ;) He is my longest-running celebrity crush!

What is changing quickly in your life?

As of right now, I'm not planning anything too interesting. Just getting through what needs to be done and am hoping for a relaxing winter break. :)

It's wonderful to see you still here. LOL.

This place?

I have moved on to other things that are not detrimental to anyone.

Don't worry, others will tell you what I apparently don't mean here?

Me also, just getting through the hot break.  :whatthe:

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 5:13 am

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It's wonderful to see you still here. LOL.

This place?

I have moved on to other things that are not detrimental to anyone.

Don't worry, others will tell you what I apparently don't mean here?

Me also, just getting through the hot break. ?:whatthe:

Aww, thanks. It is nice to see you around here too.

I am around here often, though I mostly hang out over at the TOS boards. I like reading through posts at 10F frequently, however.

Also, I am a little vague on what you mean but I hope things are going okay for you...

It's all good.  :)

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 9:28 am

Let's see in 1999 I was 27, and was living in a loft in the downtown area.  I also had a go-nowhere job.  I also had never had a serious relationship.  Now, 2009, I'm 37 , I own my own home(house) , I am a single father raising a 6 year old boy, and I am back in school majoring in Literature.  I am happier now than I ever really have been, and for once in my life I actually see a future ahead of me that I know I will be happy with.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 11:01 am

Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 05 2009, 4:18 am)
How has your life changed from 10 years ago?

Ten years ago, I wasn't yet a millionaire. I was living 800 miles from where I wanted to be. I was working 80-90 hours a week so that I could bring in twice the salary I really needed to pay the bills. Since I gave myself no spare time, I could put all the excess salary into savings. By 1999, I had four whole years of salary in savings and I still felt poor. I felt poor for two reasons. First, by giving myself almost no play money, I made myself feel as if I were still earning just enough to pay bills. Second, I wasn't saving in order to buy a car or a big screen TV or some other object that would lose value the moment I bought it. No, I was saving in order to build up twenty-five years of salary. Why on earth? Because when you invest $100 in a stock index fund which owns every significant company on the planet, and you leave that $100 there for the rest of your life, on average that $100 will earn about $8 per year. Inflation will eat (again on average) about $3 of that $8. That means you can safely take $4 out of savings every year and still have that stock investment keep gaining value above inflation for the rest of your life. Once you have enough $100s invested so that the same number of $4s pays all your bills (there's that 25 years of salary), you become independently wealthy for the rest of your life. Hard to do? You bet. From graduation through to the age of 41, I worked the same number of hours my grandfather took 'til age 65 to work. But now I don't have to work at all. Ever again. Yes, it was hard. But it wasn't impossible. You just have to realize what can be done, then choose to do it.



Quote (Cruervo @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:24 am)
Well, I was 10 and going to grade school. Now I'm deploying in 4 months...

Cruervo, you are in an ideal position to jumpstart this. As long as you're on active duty, the service pays your cost of living. Your salary is pure excess. Everyone else around you will be spending all of that excess on binges at the bar and other diversions. At the end of their service, they'll have saved nothing. You don't have to be a prude to do better. Go get wasted every now and then to keep up appearances, but keep it to a minimum. Instead, make yourself find joy in seeing your bank balance rise month by month. One of my high school pals went into the service so he could afford medical school. The service paid for his entire education from undergrad through M.D. He had to sign on for the full twenty years, of course, but how many doctors have you ever known who arrived at age 38 completely debt free and with 3/4 of their last military salary coming in for the rest of their lives, above and beyond whatever they then earn as civilian doctors? That boy is, right this minute, doing better than I managed from outside the services.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 12:43 pm

Quote (IVHoltzman @ Dec. 05 2009, 12:01 pm)
Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 05 2009, 4:18 am)
How has your life changed from 10 years ago?

Ten years ago, I wasn't yet a millionaire. I was living 800 miles from where I wanted to be. I was working 80-90 hours a week so that I could bring in twice the salary I really needed to pay the bills. Since I gave myself no spare time, I could put all the excess salary into savings. By 1999, I had four whole years of salary in savings and I still felt poor. I felt poor for two reasons. First, by giving myself almost no play money, I made myself feel as if I were still earning just enough to pay bills. Second, I wasn't saving in order to buy a car or a big screen TV or some other object that would lose value the moment I bought it. No, I was saving in order to build up twenty-five years of salary. Why on earth? Because when you invest $100 in a stock index fund which owns every significant company on the planet, and you leave that $100 there for the rest of your life, on average that $100 will earn about $8 per year. Inflation will eat (again on average) about $3 of that $8. That means you can safely take $4 out of savings every year and still have that stock investment keep gaining value above inflation for the rest of your life. Once you have enough $100s invested so that the same number of $4s pays all your bills (there's that 25 years of salary), you become independently wealthy for the rest of your life. Hard to do? You bet. From graduation through to the age of 41, I worked the same number of hours my grandfather took 'til age 65 to work. But now I don't have to work at all. Ever again. Yes, it was hard. But it wasn't impossible. You just have to realize what can be done, then choose to do it.



Quote (Cruervo @ Dec. 06 2009, 1:24 am)
Well, I was 10 and going to grade school. Now I'm deploying in 4 months...

Cruervo, you are in an ideal position to jumpstart this. As long as you're on active duty, the service pays your cost of living. Your salary is pure excess. Everyone else around you will be spending all of that excess on binges at the bar and other diversions. At the end of their service, they'll have saved nothing. You don't have to be a prude to do better. Go get wasted every now and then to keep up appearances, but keep it to a minimum. Instead, make yourself find joy in seeing your bank balance rise month by month. One of my high school pals went into the service so he could afford medical school. The service paid for his entire education from undergrad through M.D. He had to sign on for the full twenty years, of course, but how many doctors have you ever known who arrived at age 38 completely debt free and with 3/4 of their last military salary coming in for the rest of their lives, above and beyond whatever they then earn as civilian doctors? That boy is, right this minute, doing better than I managed from outside the services.

Yep, I'm a saver!

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 12:46 pm

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Wow. Im pursuing an International Relations major myself

That has always sounded like an interesting major to me. I'm assuming you'd have to take lots of different languages too?

No, just your area of focus. I'm actually a little worried about that part because I am rated to have almost zero aptitude for other languages. But I love studying other cultures and understanding how other people think.

Yeah, it's tough learning a new language. Full immersion is best. I took French in undergrad for one year, Monday through Friday, where the teachers spoke nothing BUT French from day one. No English allowed, and I thought that helped me to learn the language very quickly!

Which languages have you tried to learn before?

Spanish. I didnt really like the feel of that language at all. Really I'm refering to a test I took in the military. It confused the hell out of them when I scored perfect on English skills and got nearly a zero on their language aptitude test.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 12:51 pm

I was 13 and was going at another school. It was a strange new world for me. The boys were cruel to me and I was one of the best in my class, as always....

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:02 pm

Quote (Cruervo @ Dec. 06 2009, 12:46 pm)
Quote (MarmaladeSkies @ Dec. 05 2009, 6:03 am)
Which languages have you tried to learn before?

Spanish. I didn't really like the feel of that language at all. Really I'm referring to a test I took in the military. It confused the hell out of them when I scored perfect on English skills and got nearly a zero on their language aptitude test.

It may help to realize that English is what happens when a small number of French people conquers a large number of Germanic people. In the year 1066 AD, about ten thousand French-speaking Normans crossed the English Channel and quickly conquered the million plus Germanic-speaking Saxon residents of England. The Normans didn't kill off the Saxon peasants. They simply committed a decapitation strike against the Saxon ruling class. In place of a Saxon king and Saxon earls, counts and barons, they set up a Norman king and Norman dukes and marquises.

Slight problem: language. There was no chance that the vastly outnumbered conquerors were ever going to make the Germanic Saxon population learn to speak Norman French (just as American forces are never going to make the average villager in either Iraq or Afghanistan learn English). If the new rulers ever hoped to get anything done, they'd have to learn to at least give orders in the language of the conquered people.

Like any other immigrant community, the first generation of French Normans spoke their own tongue amongst themselves. They went to their graves speaking full French grammar, learning only enough Saxon verbs and nouns to issue commands.

The second generation, tended as babies by Saxon nursemaids, grew up bilingual. They spoke full French grammar with their elders, but were quite comfortable speaking full Saxon grammar with their subjects.

By the time another few generations had passed, almost all of England's ruling class was still Norman by bloodline, but none of them spoke French grammar as their birth tongue. They all spoke Saxon grammar. However (and this is the kicker), the ruling class laced their Saxon grammar with tons of French vocabulary.

As a result, modern English has at least 2 words for almost any concept or action... and the French-derived word is almost always the superior, more dignified, more sophisticated of the two.

For example, a Norman at table might eat beef and pork at his leisure, but a Saxon would have the job of tending the cows and swine. A Saxon would eat chicken while a Norman ate poultry. A Saxon maid might be lovely, but only a Norman filly could be beautiful. A Saxon might wear a shirt, but only a Norman would enrobe herself in a blouse. A Saxon woman might feel motherly but a Norman matron would feel maternal, just as a Saxon man might feel fatherly while his Norman counterpart would feel paternal. Saxons threw parties while Normans attended festivals. And Norman cavalry officers demonstrated their equestrian expertise while Saxon knights showed off their horsemanship.

The bottom several hundred words required to make English work are almost all Germanic:

German : Hier ist meine Hand.
English: Here is my hand.

German : Woher kommst du?
English: Where comest thou?

German : Danke, wir haben genug.
English: Thanks, we have enough.

In contrast, the top tens of thousands of high-brow words in English come almost entirely from Roman Latin, either directly courtesy of both religion and science, or through French courtesy of the Normans.

This means that the majority of English high-brow words have close relations among Spanish, Italian, and even Romanian words. Some words carry much the same meaning across the languages. For example...

Sophisticated Sophistique Sofisticado
Festival Festivite Fiesta
Security Securite Seguridad

Many more words share a common Latin origin but have wondered somewhat in definition depending on the language. For example, the Norman English word Poultry means Any Domestic Fowl, while the Spanish word Pollo just means Chicken.

When trying to figure out the meaning of an unknown Spanish word, or when trying to guess a Spanish word for something you'd like to say, concentrate mainly on the high-brow English words. They're the ones most likely to come from south of the Alps, and so are the ones most likely to be cousins of Spanish words. There are many prominent trends that help make this job easier. The following are the trends I've identified so far...

Spanish words ending with -dad or -tad are often very close to English words ending in - ity. That is:
Actividad = Activity
Ciudad = City
Navidad = Nativity
Nacionalidad = Nationality
Oportunidad = Opportunity
Seguridad = Security
Universidad = University
Variedad = Variety
Verdad = Verity (Germanic equivalent: Truth)

Spanish words ending with -cion are often very close to English words ending in -tion. That is:
Atraccion = Attraction
Construccion = Construction
Escepcion = Exception
Estacion = Station
Habitacion = Room (Habitation)
Liquidacion = Sale (Liquidation)
Seleccion = Selection
Vacacion = Vacation

Spanish words ending with -mente are often very close to English words ending in -ly. That is:
Totalmente = Totally
Finalmente = Finally
Practicamente = Practically

When the Roman Empire fell, the ability to travel safely fell as well. Over the next several centuries, the increasingly isolated provinces drifted away from their Latin roots in random directions. Spelling, which had been fairly standardized under the Empire, also wandered as literacy rates plunged. Pronunciation shifted as well, sometimes drastically twisting a Latin word in all sorts of ways. For example...

Ovum : Latin word for Egg
Ovo : Portuguese
Huevo : Spanish
Oeuf : French
Oval : English

Focus : Latin word for Fireplace/Fire
Fogo : Portuguese
Fuego : Spanish
Foyer, Feu : French
...this is why I laugh whenever I hear an interior decorator recommend making a fireplace be the focal point of a room... because there's really no need... that's exactly what a fireplace is by definition.

In general, when you encounter a word in Spanish which contains the "way" sound, replace the "ue" with an "o" sound and see if it reminds you of an English word.

Escuela ~~ School
Huevo ~~ Egg (Oval)
Bueno ~~ Good (Pro Bono, Bonus)
Muerte ~~ Death (Mortal)
Nuevo ~~ New (Nova, Novel)
Puerta ~~ Door (Portal)
Puerto ~~ Harbor (Port)

Similarly, when you encounter a word in Spanish which contains "ie", replace those with "e" and see if it reminds you of an English word.

Bien ~~ Well (Benefit, Beneficial)
Fiesta ~~ Party (Festival)
Hierba ~~ Grass (Herb)
Tienda ~~ Store (where you can spend legal Tender)
Tierra ~~ Land (Territory)

Consonants also went separate ways over the sixteen centuries since Rome fell. Sometimes the Norman Englishmen were the ones who changed the pronunciation and subsequently the spelling. At other times it was the Spaniards. The letters "m" and "n" tend to blend when placed next to one another by a compound word (to "migrate in" to a place is to "immigrate"). The letters "q" and "c" and "g" tend to be interchangeable. The letters "p" and "b" and "v" tend to be interchangeable. Faced with multiple consonants from an original Latin word, Spanish is usually more eager than English to abandon one or more consonants, but we do it too.

Abogado ~~ Lawyer (Advocate)
Beber ~~ Drink/drinken/trinken (Imbibe Beverages)
Caballo ~~ Horse (Cavalry)
Cuanto ~~ How Much (Quantity)
Cuarto ~~ Fourth (Quarter)
Descubrimiento ~~ Discovery
Gato ~~ Cat
Gobierno ~~ Government
Inmenso ~~ Immense
Inmigrante ~~ Immigrant
Lago ~~ Lake (Loch)
Lugar ~~ Place (Location)
Respeto ~~ Respect
Ropa ~~ Clothing (Robe)
Saludar ~~ Salute
Segundo ~~ Secondary
Seguridad ~~ Security
Sobre ~~ Above (Super)

And then there are words that simply cry out "We're related somehow!"

Bailar ~~ Dance (Ballet)
Blusa ~~ Shirt (Blouse)
Caliente ~~ Hot/heete/heisse (Calorie)
Cantar ~~ Sing (Chant)
Cerca De ~~ Near (Circa)
Comestibles ~~ Foods (Comestibles)
Creer ~~ Believe (Creed, Credit)
Dia ~~ Day/dag/tag (Per Diem, Diary)
Diversion ~~ Fun (a pleasant Diversion)
Doce ~~ Twelve (a Dozen)
Escribir ~~ Write (Scribe)
Esposa ~~ Wife (Spouse)
Frio ~~ Cold/koud/kalt (Frigid)
Frito ~~ Fried (Fritters)
Guante ~~ Glove (Gauntlet)
Grande ~~ Big (Grand)
Joven ~~ Youth (Juvenile)
Llamar ~~ Call (Yammer)
Lunes ~~ Monday (Luna's Day rather than Moon's Day)
Madre ~~ Mother (Maternal)
Maestro ~~ Teacher (Master)
Mar ~~ Sea (Marine)
Medio ~~ Half (Median)
Mirar ~~ To Look At (Mirror)
Moneda ~~ Coin (Monetary)
Noche ~~ Night (Nocturnal)
Padre ~~ Father (Paternal)
Palabra ~~ Word (Palaver)
Pluma ~~ Pen (Plume)
Primero ~~ First (Primary)
Primo ~~ First Cousin
Rojo ~~ Red (Rouge)
Sabado ~~ Saturday (Sabbath rather than Saturn's Day)
Sen~or ~~ Mister (Senior)
Silla ~~ Seat (a Sill is the seat of a window?)
Suficiente ~~ Enough (Sufficient)
Tarde ~~ Late (Tardy)
Tener Tengo ~~ Hold (Maintain Tangibles, Tenure)
Ultimo ~~ Last (Ultimate)
Vaso ~~ Drinking Glass (Vase)
Vestido ~~ Dress (Vestment)
Viajar ~~ Travel (Voyage)

Oh, one more odd little tidbit: several generations after the Norman invasion of England, a certain Saxon Baron of Locksley who'd been run off his hereditary lands by a certain Norman Sir Guy du Gisborne decided that enough was enough... and he became Robin Hood. In the end, though, Robin recognized that at least one Norman was worthy of his allegiance: King Richard the Lionheart. "Heart of the Lion" in Spanish is "Corazon del leon" and in Italian "Corleone"... but that's another story about immigrants ( grin! ).

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:05 pm

it is : Hier ist meine Hand.... :p

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