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Your favorite crew?

1701AtoE

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 1:38 pm

What is your most favorite to least favorite crew? I know I like certain series for the stories (e.g., TNG), but others for the crew personality (TOS, VOY, ENT). For those that I like the stories, it's possible the crew can be switched out and people will still watch.

So I am curious of your list that is based on crew personality/actors, and not on the story lines. My are:

1. TOS: true natural humor, charisma, relationships. Don't need a Star Trek scene to enjoy these characters interact.

2. ENT: Episodes were hard to watch at first because I was used to the glamour of the TOS and post TOS enterprise startship interiors and non-airforce/NASA uniforms. But I grew to love the crew with their quest to explore and exhibit many human moments, even in seasons 1 and 2 but more so in Seasons 3 and 4. I can see myself enjoying them outside of Enterprise realm. No great individual identity as in TOS, but great seeing all of them interact.

3. VOY: I encourage female leadership myself as a male executive, so I liked Janeway as performed by Mulgrew. Nice blend of emotions, mental focus, and integrity. Crew's personality is nice. Seven's and docs provide sexy and colorful personality mix.

4. TNG: I like all the characters, especially Data. The personality of the crew in general are kind of bland however. ?I like Picard character but just not the same level as Kirk. Too stiff. Data is stiff of course. Warf is stiff. Bev never standout compared to Bones or Doc on VOY or even Phlox on ENT. Stiff doesn't mean I don't like them, just between crew interaction it provides little enjoyment and teasing were overused to spark some interest.

5. DS9: Crew are good. But I somehow find myself enjoy only those episodes with a lot of space actions.

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 2:35 pm

I know it's supposed to be based more on the personalities but I can't help but incorporate the stories into my opinions, the stories draw out the personalities of each character and IMO must be considered.

1. TOS:  the nostalgia factor, respect for those that started the franchise.  The trinity of Kirk, Spock, and McCoy just can't be broken even by Star Trek XI.  Watching XI with brand new actors still gives me the chills because the characters are even bigger than the actors who portray them.  They are etched in history and will forever be the best of the best.  It still makes me sad to this day that we only got three years of TV out of them, even if we got 6 movies.  

2. DS9: I came to care about these characters probably more than any other series due to the story arcs.  I personally loved the central focus on characters.  Although there were writing hiccups and tendencies from the writers to rely on repetitive action sequences, I grew fond of each character's situation(s).  I loved how one episode's events impacted the characters for several episodes and we didn't just rewind everything back to normal each and every week.  I felt complete at the end of the series, which is something I couldn't say about any other series.

3. TNG: I loved the series early on, but found my passion for them start to slide around the 5th season and the movies did not do much to re-energize it.  Trek owes much to the show for bringing it back into the mainstream, and I thought the writing was generally better than DS9 but I never felt like we were attaining much by the end of the 7 seasons, and "First Contact" was the only TNG movie that I really really really enjoyed.  I think of it though as probably the most consistent of all the series.

4. ENT: It had to grow on me.  I found it was hard to watch episodes during the original airings, but once I was watching in syndication (especially when multiple episodes would come on back-to-back) it started getting me hooked little by little.  Definite peaks and valleys for me regarding the storylines and the plot points, the actors I think did a great job of making the most of what they were given.  I really didn't find it necessary that the ship had to be the Enterprise, which always bothered me a little.  

5. VOY:  I had tremendously high hopes for Voyager but ultimately I was let down.  Robert Picardo saved it for me I think, if he wasn't on this show I am worried that I might haven given up.  I enjoy it, there are some great episodes sprinkled throughout each season but the consistency wasn't there for me.  The characters are all pretty likeable, but the premise was so open-ended that I think it actually worked against the show towards the end of the series.  Q's character worked so well in Voyager that it was almost like he was conceptualized for Voyager from the start.  I understand they were lost in the same quadrant as the Borg, but between what the last couple of seasons of TNG and VOY did to the Borg I just felt like the luster of seeing a Borg cube on screen wore off quickly by the end of the show.

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 2:54 pm

1. TOS
2. TNG
3. DS9
4. ENT
5. VOY

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 7:37 pm

TNG, with TOS a close second. While I do love the original crew, especially the friendship between Kirk, Spock, and Bones, TNG had stronger bonds between all the members of the crew, not just the main three. You could tell all of the guys genuinely loved each other.

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 9:52 pm

Wow, DataLady. You and I must have been watching a different show.

I never felt the crew on TNG treated one another as friends, merely co-workers. I mean, we didn't see Picard interact with his crew until the final minutes of the final episode at which time he proclaims "I should have done this a long time ago."

Uh, yeah.

Anyway, here are my answers: TOS 1st with DS9 a very close 2nd.

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 10:19 pm

TOS has a lot of great moments between Kirk, Spock and Bones, but I thought they could have gone a lot further with the other characters.  To me, DS9 has the best crew because none of them seem like they're just there for show.

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Report this Dec. 04 2009, 10:55 pm

DS9

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Report this Dec. 05 2009, 1:58 am

1. Deep Space Nine as it seemed to flesh out the characters the most, I really liked the Odo-Quark, Bashir-O'brian, and Bashir-Garak  relationships the most.

2. The Next Generation-Everybody seemed to hang out with each other, except for the Captain, he brought back the married to his Starship type back, but he still had good moments with side characters, like Vash or his Family(either episode), or his girlfriend in one.

3. The Original Series- The Triumvirate is awesome, the other characters, except Scotty didn't really get to know, in a sense. Course only 3 seasons didn't help either.

4. Enterprise-Seems more close to home, humans still crazy, Vulcans are new, and the T'Pol-Trip relationship was great, as was the Captains relationships with everybody, that was a nice touch.

5. Voyager-Show just seemed to lack something, didn't like Torres, or Harry at all. Seven of Nine and The Doctor made that show. The Chakotay stories had so much potential, but just seemed half baked and just not right or something, I liked him, but his character just wasn't written well. I liked Paris, Janeway a little and barely liked Neelix and Kes. Tuvok wasn't to bad, but nobody seemed to bring it, except maybe The Doctor.

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Report this Dec. 05 2009, 10:50 am

1. Enterprise ¿ I liked the fact the crew was full of those human frailties; I found all the characters likable but believable.  The fact that they were the first out there also made some really good storylines. I loved Seasons 3 and 4. I loved the look of the ship and the uniforms also.

2. Voyager ¿ Very good cast IMO, the fact that they were not all perfect SF officers I thought was a good touch.  I grew too really like Torres and the Doctor characters, I liked most of the characters, although I did not care for Kim or Chakotay at first, but Chakotay improved in season three.

3. TOS ¿ The top three where great, but they never delved into any of the other characters which I always thought was a missed opportunity.  The story lines were on the most part outstanding for their time.

4. DS9 ¿ Had some good characters, but I never could really get into Sisko as the captain.  I liked the friendship between OBrian and Bashir.  To be honest though the show was strongest by my taste when they went into the Dominion stories.  I found a lot of the so called character episodes a bit weak.

5. TNG ¿ Was great that it brought ST back, but I found the characters bland and two dimensional.  I never got to feel they were real, they were shown to perfect for my taste.  I think Patrick Stewart is a very good actor, but I never like Picard, too aristocratic and aloof for my taste in a Captain.

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Report this Dec. 05 2009, 7:11 pm

I like the new TOS crew since well everyone got to do something while in the old TOS the minor characters were really talking heads.
I like VOY because it's gritty and they got into lots of violating regulation situations
I like ENT because it had the TOS kind of feel to it and the female actors were hot as hell
I like DS9 because of the ship battles toward the end
I am inpartial with TNG.

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Report this Dec. 05 2009, 7:56 pm

Quote (TheDriver @ Dec. 04 2009, 9:52 pm)
Wow, DataLady. You and I must have been watching a different show.

I never felt the crew on TNG treated one another as friends, merely co-workers. I mean, we didn't see Picard interact with his crew until the final minutes of the final episode at which time he proclaims "I should have done this a long time ago."

I guess DataLady must mean that the crew have that rapport as though they were close friends. Isn't TNG the show that has the reputation of limited internal conflict?

I think...

DS9 for the characterisations and so on -- more people on that show than any other became people I cared about, even those about whom I care the least. And that includes the so called second tier characters as well.

TNG for the reasons listed previously although to a lesser extent and kind of with less of the characters as well. And although I do hear it was part of the manifesto of TNG that the characters weren't supposed to have internal conflict -- and perhaps I have mentioned why this is problematic quite a few times already -- it never quite reached the point of annoyance.

Voyager: Even though they lost a lot of the potential for continued friction between the Starfleet and ex-Maquis. (Thus missing out on what could have been some very interesting stories.) I did like several of the individual characters.

As for Enterprise and TOS, I haven't seen either of those in such a long time, I don't really feel that I can place them fairly -- as I do not think I know the characters well enough for that.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:42 pm

Quote (ForTheWorldIsHollow @ Dec. 04 2009, 2:35 pm)
I know it's supposed to be based more on the personalities but I can't help but incorporate the stories into my opinions, the stories draw out the personalities of each character and IMO must be considered.

Yes, the stories give us a strong perception to the personalities of the characters. But I'm sure that a lot of chatting dialogs and facial gestures in scripts are tailored to take advantage of the individual actors as well. I guess it's all a wash since many of the same type of story patterns are repeated in each of the series, especially between TNG, VOY, and ENT...

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:44 pm

Quote (kvlc @ Dec. 04 2009, 10:19 pm)
TOS has a lot of great moments between Kirk, Spock and Bones, but I thought they could have gone a lot further with the other characters. ¿To me, DS9 has the best crew because none of them seem like they're just there for show.

I agree with you. Seems like in the original TOS it was basically Kirk, Spock, and Bones. Then there is a steep drop off of other characters. ST XI did a great job in minimizing that gap.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:49 pm

Quote (ForTheWorldIsHollow @ Dec. 04 2009, 2:35 pm)
2. DS9: I came to care about these characters probably more than any other series due to the story arcs. ¿I personally loved the central focus on characters. ¿Although there were writing hiccups and tendencies from the writers to rely on repetitive action sequences, I grew fond of each character's situation(s). ¿I loved how one episode's events impacted the characters for several episodes and we didn't just rewind everything back to normal each and every week. ¿I felt complete at the end of the series, which is something I couldn't say about any other series.

Very interesting. I guess I felt it was too much soap opera and inter-species government politics that I was more in the mood of seeing characters while exploring. When I get a chance, I'll go back to some of the episodes.

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