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Bring back Nicholas Meyer for the last TNG movie

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 3:33 pm

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When JJTrek flops at the box office and stumbles badly with fans, it just has to happen once, Paramount/CBS will order a reboot of TNG. Bet your ass on it. That's what Hollywood loves doing: endless reboots/remakes.

Never say never again...

You're trippin, G.

Rebooting TNG would be like Ford bringing back the Mustang II.

Just ain't gonna happen.

It will happen, ''G''. Hollywood likes to reboot stuff, good things or bad things, it doesn't care. Simple as that. Take your head outta your ass and realize that.

It's gonna happen, ''G"

I don't think TNG will be rebooted. Simply because there are not enough people interested in seeing TNG back on the big screen other than the fan base. IF TNG comes back at all it will be made for TV stuff or fan based series.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:20 pm

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I don't think Nicholas Meyer would have been the right director for The Next Generation. I won't defend "Nemesis", but I don't think Meyer's version would have been better. His main contribution to "Wrath of Khan" was to give it a more military feel, based on Horatio Hornblower novels, and to add many lines of dialogue lifted from classic literature -- Melville, Dickens, Shakespeare, etc. The guy is a good writer of pastiche, but that's about all.

Nor do I think Next Gen needs another movie. I'd rather be left with the TV show, which is still great about fifteen years after it ended. And a "reboot" of TNG would be the dumbest move Hollywood ever made...

Really? The guy was single-handedly (with Harve Bennett) responsible for reviving the Star Trek franchise and updating it to a (then) exciting and dynamic format that would appeal to a motion picture audience, and he's not a good writer?

He wrote the three movies that were critically (nearly unanimously) considered the best (II, IV, VI).

I'd say he made more than a moderate contribution.

Without Trek II, there would have been no movie franchise and likely no TNG.

I said he was a good writer. I just qualified it by adding "of pastiche". "Wrath of Khan" and "Undiscovered Country" were decent movies, but neither script was really inspired -- and Meyer had co-writers on each one, remember. On "Khan", Meyer was simply the last writer to work on the project, by assembling bits and pieces of previous drafts.

He wrote a very good book called "The Seven Per-Cent Solution"...but it was only good insofar as it exactly copied the style of Arthur Conan Doyle and believably reproduced Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson. It was a pastiche. Meyer's Trek movies (II and VI) are a mash-up of different elements with Trek characters tossed in.

He's skilled, just not talented.

For what it's worth, Pooneil, I agree.

I mean, Meyer is a fairly decent filmmaker. But to Trek fans? Ha. He's apparently some sort of god.

And you know what? I don't even like Star Trek VI. I think it's insanely overrated.

Personally, I wish the (Shatner/Nimoy/Kelley) TOS saga had ended with the final scene in Star Trek IV...

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 6:21 pm

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When JJTrek flops at the box office and stumbles badly with fans, it just has to happen once, Paramount/CBS will order a reboot of TNG. Bet your ass on it. That's what Hollywood loves doing: endless reboots/remakes.

Never say never again...

You're trippin, G.

Rebooting TNG would be like Ford bringing back the Mustang II.

Just ain't gonna happen.

It will happen, ''G''. Hollywood likes to reboot stuff, good things or bad things, it doesn't care. Simple as that. Take your head outta your ass and realize that.

It's gonna happen, ''G"

Why would it happen? TNG was unimportant. It did well because it was a well-produced show that had the Star Trek name on it - at a time where there was Trek-Frenzy and only a movie every 2-or-so years.

As a cultural entity, it has little or no value, other than seeing Patrick Stewart act...

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 9:39 pm

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The premise of V wasn't bad. I think Shatner's idea was pretty good. His idea of a Vulcan "terrorist" of sorts, was good. His directing was a little iffy in places (El Capitan) and wonderful in others (McCoy/Father scene). Just inconsistent.

Where the ball was dropped were the scriptwriters and Paramount wanting a ton of comedy in an otherwise heavy story. They felt V needed to be like IV, especially with IV being a mainstream hit. It just sucked the life out of the drama.

Of course, the opticals were atrocious. Bran Ferren, as well as Paramount, should be ashamed of themselves.

The idea has some potential, but it's challenging.  Like Bennett told Shatner, everyone has a different, or even no, conceptualization of what God is like.  Plus, Trek, by and large steered clear of religion and the supernatural due to GR's humanistic philosophy.

I agree with you that Shatner's initial idea was compromised in so many ways that, I think, in the end, it was almost unrecognizable from his intent.  It's really sad how messed up that script for TFF is.  It's a classic example of two may cooks in the kitchen and it's a real shame. :(

And yeah, there is no excuse for the craptacular sfx in TFF.  That was the only one of the ST films that I felt was really poor wrt the special effects.  And that ending was just horrible.  It looks like something just thrown together which is pretty much it was.  It's hard to believe that Paramount released that film with that ending.  They should've given Shatner enough to fix the ending.  I'm not saying that would've saved the film, but it would certainly have made it look less ridiculous wrt the ending.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 9:43 pm

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Oh, yeah, one other thing. ?I think it was foolish for Berman not to give Meyer the control he wanted with NEM (or whatever the fourth TNG movie would be). ?The guy was 3 for 3 with the TOS films he was involved with, proven as a great writer and director. ?Unfortunately, like Nimoy with GEN, none of that experience and success mattered one iota with Rick Berman. ?He wouldn't cede his control, despite the mediocre reviews for GEN and INS and the relatively poor performance of INS. ?

Meyer was able to regain some of the ground lost after TFF with his writing and directing for TUC. ?I really do think he could've done the same thing with NEM.

What? Rick Berman didn't let Nicholas Meyer direct Nemesis? Man, if Meyer had been able to do something with Nemesis, both in directing and writing, maybe it wouldn't have been such a craptastic movie. Meyer made both TWOK and TUC kickbutt Star Trek movies, and he could've just possibly done the same thing with NEM.

Berman sees about 10 feet in front of his face...he's a taskmaster who could make a show serviceable, but has no "vision" per se. Apparently he "forgot" that Meyer's Trek movies were always good.

Yeah, it's bizarre isn't it.

Berman could've had Nimoy directing GEN and Meyer directing NEM if he'd only given them more control and creative license?

What the hell was he so afraid of?  Neither of those guys were unknown quantities wrt both film in general and the franchise in particular.  

What was Berman's problem?  Fear of losing control of the film franchise to Meyer or Nimoy (they would've been better imo, Nimoy was totally interested in directing GEN)?  Was it all just politics?!??!  

I think so.

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Report this Dec. 06 2009, 9:45 pm

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I don't think Nicholas Meyer would have been the right director for The Next Generation. I won't defend "Nemesis", but I don't think Meyer's version would have been better. His main contribution to "Wrath of Khan" was to give it a more military feel, based on Horatio Hornblower novels, and to add many lines of dialogue lifted from classic literature -- Melville, Dickens, Shakespeare, etc. The guy is a good writer of pastiche, but that's about all.

Nor do I think Next Gen needs another movie. I'd rather be left with the TV show, which is still great about fifteen years after it ended. And a "reboot" of TNG would be the dumbest move Hollywood ever made...

Really? The guy was single-handedly (with Harve Bennett) responsible for reviving the Star Trek franchise and updating it to a (then) exciting and dynamic format that would appeal to a motion picture audience, and he's not a good writer?

He wrote the three movies that were critically (nearly unanimously) considered the best (II, IV, VI).

I'd say he made more than a moderate contribution.

Without Trek II, there would have been no movie franchise and likely no TNG.

I said he was a good writer. I just qualified it by adding "of pastiche". "Wrath of Khan" and "Undiscovered Country" were decent movies, but neither script was really inspired -- and Meyer had co-writers on each one, remember. On "Khan", Meyer was simply the last writer to work on the project, by assembling bits and pieces of previous drafts.

He wrote a very good book called "The Seven Per-Cent Solution"...but it was only good insofar as it exactly copied the style of Arthur Conan Doyle and believably reproduced Sherlock Holmes and Dr Watson. It was a pastiche. Meyer's Trek movies (II and VI) are a mash-up of different elements with Trek characters tossed in.

He's skilled, just not talented.

For what it's worth, Pooneil, I agree.

I mean, Meyer is a fairly decent filmmaker. But to Trek fans? Ha. He's apparently some sort of god.

And you know what? I don't even like Star Trek VI. I think it's insanely overrated.

Personally, I wish the (Shatner/Nimoy/Kelley) TOS saga had ended with the final scene in Star Trek IV...

Well, I love TUC, Driver, but you're right.  They could've just ended it with TVH too.  

Of course, after TVH's performance at the box office, there's no way they weren't going to do another TOS film.

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Report this Dec. 07 2009, 4:07 pm

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Oh, yeah, one other thing. ?I think it was foolish for Berman not to give Meyer the control he wanted with NEM (or whatever the fourth TNG movie would be). ?The guy was 3 for 3 with the TOS films he was involved with, proven as a great writer and director. ?Unfortunately, like Nimoy with GEN, none of that experience and success mattered one iota with Rick Berman. ?He wouldn't cede his control, despite the mediocre reviews for GEN and INS and the relatively poor performance of INS. ?

Meyer was able to regain some of the ground lost after TFF with his writing and directing for TUC. ?I really do think he could've done the same thing with NEM.

What? Rick Berman didn't let Nicholas Meyer direct Nemesis? Man, if Meyer had been able to do something with Nemesis, both in directing and writing, maybe it wouldn't have been such a craptastic movie. Meyer made both TWOK and TUC kickbutt Star Trek movies, and he could've just possibly done the same thing with NEM.

Berman sees about 10 feet in front of his face...he's a taskmaster who could make a show serviceable, but has no "vision" per se. Apparently he "forgot" that Meyer's Trek movies were always good.

Yeah, it's bizarre isn't it.

Berman could've had Nimoy directing GEN and Meyer directing NEM if he'd only given them more control and creative license?

What the hell was he so afraid of? ¿Neither of those guys were unknown quantities wrt both film in general and the franchise in particular. ¿

What was Berman's problem? ¿Fear of losing control of the film franchise to Meyer or Nimoy (they would've been better imo, Nimoy was totally interested in directing GEN)? ¿Was it all just politics?!??! ¿

I think so.

Meyer and Nimoy are more than just directors, they have vision. They know what they want in a movie, and their genius manifests in how they get there.

Of the two, I like Meyer a little more. He is more hard-hitting and dynamic in his metaphor, where Nimoy is more reserved. You couldn't go wrong with either one, I just like Meyer's ballsy approach.

Berman was afraid of losing control, letting someone else's vision be heard. Read TNG history about some of Berman's "antics" and its frightening that this guy headed up an entire era of TNG-era spinoffs.

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Report this Dec. 08 2009, 12:44 pm

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Oh, yeah, one other thing. ?I think it was foolish for Berman not to give Meyer the control he wanted with NEM (or whatever the fourth TNG movie would be). ?The guy was 3 for 3 with the TOS films he was involved with, proven as a great writer and director. ?Unfortunately, like Nimoy with GEN, none of that experience and success mattered one iota with Rick Berman. ?He wouldn't cede his control, despite the mediocre reviews for GEN and INS and the relatively poor performance of INS. ?

Meyer was able to regain some of the ground lost after TFF with his writing and directing for TUC. ?I really do think he could've done the same thing with NEM.

What? Rick Berman didn't let Nicholas Meyer direct Nemesis? Man, if Meyer had been able to do something with Nemesis, both in directing and writing, maybe it wouldn't have been such a craptastic movie. Meyer made both TWOK and TUC kickbutt Star Trek movies, and he could've just possibly done the same thing with NEM.

Berman sees about 10 feet in front of his face...he's a taskmaster who could make a show serviceable, but has no "vision" per se. Apparently he "forgot" that Meyer's Trek movies were always good.

Yeah, it's bizarre isn't it.

Berman could've had Nimoy directing GEN and Meyer directing NEM if he'd only given them more control and creative license?

What the hell was he so afraid of? ?Neither of those guys were unknown quantities wrt both film in general and the franchise in particular. ?

What was Berman's problem? ?Fear of losing control of the film franchise to Meyer or Nimoy (they would've been better imo, Nimoy was totally interested in directing GEN)? ?Was it all just politics?!??! ?

I think so.

Meyer and Nimoy are more than just directors, they have vision. They know what they want in a movie, and their genius manifests in how they get there.

Of the two, I like Meyer a little more. He is more hard-hitting and dynamic in his metaphor, where Nimoy is more reserved. You couldn't go wrong with either one, I just like Meyer's ballsy approach.

Berman was afraid of losing control, letting someone else's vision be heard. Read TNG history about some of Berman's "antics" and its frightening that this guy headed up an entire era of TNG-era spinoffs.

I read the imdb article about the Nicholas Meyer directing NEM thing.  

Apparently, Meyer wanted to rewrite John Logan's script for NEM, like he did with Bennett and Soward's script for TWOK.  I don't know why, maybe Meyer didn't like Logan's original script or felt it could be better or maybe he just wanted to put his 2 cents in.  Anyway, Berman had promised Logan the final rewrite of the script, so he said no to Meyer's request.  Meyer ended up walking.  

So, I dunno.  Can Berman be faulted there?  It kind of sounds that, like Nimoy with GEN, he brought Meyer into the process to late.  If he'd gotten Meyer there right from the beginning, he could've gotten him to both write and direct the fourth TNG film.  

Maybe, Meyer, like Nimoy has stated wrt GEN, didn't like working that way, being brought in at the last minute with no input on the script.  That's not the way either of them worked on the original TOS films.  Nimoy really didn't like the way Berman treated him wrt GEN.

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Report this Dec. 08 2009, 3:07 pm

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Oh, yeah, one other thing. ?I think it was foolish for Berman not to give Meyer the control he wanted with NEM (or whatever the fourth TNG movie would be). ?The guy was 3 for 3 with the TOS films he was involved with, proven as a great writer and director. ?Unfortunately, like Nimoy with GEN, none of that experience and success mattered one iota with Rick Berman. ?He wouldn't cede his control, despite the mediocre reviews for GEN and INS and the relatively poor performance of INS. ?

Meyer was able to regain some of the ground lost after TFF with his writing and directing for TUC. ?I really do think he could've done the same thing with NEM.

What? Rick Berman didn't let Nicholas Meyer direct Nemesis? Man, if Meyer had been able to do something with Nemesis, both in directing and writing, maybe it wouldn't have been such a craptastic movie. Meyer made both TWOK and TUC kickbutt Star Trek movies, and he could've just possibly done the same thing with NEM.

Berman sees about 10 feet in front of his face...he's a taskmaster who could make a show serviceable, but has no "vision" per se. Apparently he "forgot" that Meyer's Trek movies were always good.

Yeah, it's bizarre isn't it.

Berman could've had Nimoy directing GEN and Meyer directing NEM if he'd only given them more control and creative license?

What the hell was he so afraid of? ?Neither of those guys were unknown quantities wrt both film in general and the franchise in particular. ?

What was Berman's problem? ?Fear of losing control of the film franchise to Meyer or Nimoy (they would've been better imo, Nimoy was totally interested in directing GEN)? ?Was it all just politics?!??! ?

I think so.

Meyer and Nimoy are more than just directors, they have vision. They know what they want in a movie, and their genius manifests in how they get there.

Of the two, I like Meyer a little more. He is more hard-hitting and dynamic in his metaphor, where Nimoy is more reserved. You couldn't go wrong with either one, I just like Meyer's ballsy approach.

Berman was afraid of losing control, letting someone else's vision be heard. Read TNG history about some of Berman's "antics" and its frightening that this guy headed up an entire era of TNG-era spinoffs.

I read the imdb article about the Nicholas Meyer directing NEM thing. ¿

Apparently, Meyer wanted to rewrite John Logan's script for NEM, like he did with Bennett and Soward's script for TWOK. ¿I don't know why, maybe Meyer didn't like Logan's original script or felt it could be better or maybe he just wanted to put his 2 cents in. ¿Anyway, Berman had promised Logan the final rewrite of the script, so he said no to Meyer's request. ¿Meyer ended up walking. ¿

So, I dunno. ¿Can Berman be faulted there? ¿It kind of sounds that, like Nimoy with GEN, he brought Meyer into the process to late. ¿If he'd gotten Meyer there right from the beginning, he could've gotten him to both write and direct the fourth TNG film. ¿

Maybe, Meyer, like Nimoy has stated wrt GEN, didn't like working that way, being brought in at the last minute with no input on the script. ¿That's not the way either of them worked on the original TOS films. ¿Nimoy really didn't like the way Berman treated him wrt GEN.

I suspect that the plan was intentionally to bring in Meyer and Nimoy late into those processes.

Berman would have known full well that both of those men would have wanted maximum input into the creative process. Likely, Berman did not want to deal with that, but wanted to utilize their talents as directors.

Quite possibly, the solution was to offer the director's chair to them well after the "point of no return" on story development.

That's pure speculation...but it makes sense.

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Oh, yeah, one other thing. ?I think it was foolish for Berman not to give Meyer the control he wanted with NEM (or whatever the fourth TNG movie would be). ?The guy was 3 for 3 with the TOS films he was involved with, proven as a great writer and director. ?Unfortunately, like Nimoy with GEN, none of that experience and success mattered one iota with Rick Berman. ?He wouldn't cede his control, despite the mediocre reviews for GEN and INS and the relatively poor performance of INS. ?

Meyer was able to regain some of the ground lost after TFF with his writing and directing for TUC. ?I really do think he could've done the same thing with NEM.

What? Rick Berman didn't let Nicholas Meyer direct Nemesis? Man, if Meyer had been able to do something with Nemesis, both in directing and writing, maybe it wouldn't have been such a craptastic movie. Meyer made both TWOK and TUC kickbutt Star Trek movies, and he could've just possibly done the same thing with NEM.

Berman sees about 10 feet in front of his face...he's a taskmaster who could make a show serviceable, but has no "vision" per se. Apparently he "forgot" that Meyer's Trek movies were always good.

Yeah, it's bizarre isn't it.

Berman could've had Nimoy directing GEN and Meyer directing NEM if he'd only given them more control and creative license?

What the hell was he so afraid of? ?Neither of those guys were unknown quantities wrt both film in general and the franchise in particular. ?

What was Berman's problem? ?Fear of losing control of the film franchise to Meyer or Nimoy (they would've been better imo, Nimoy was totally interested in directing GEN)? ?Was it all just politics?!??! ?

I think so.

Meyer and Nimoy are more than just directors, they have vision. They know what they want in a movie, and their genius manifests in how they get there.

Of the two, I like Meyer a little more. He is more hard-hitting and dynamic in his metaphor, where Nimoy is more reserved. You couldn't go wrong with either one, I just like Meyer's ballsy approach.

Berman was afraid of losing control, letting someone else's vision be heard. Read TNG history about some of Berman's "antics" and its frightening that this guy headed up an entire era of TNG-era spinoffs.

I read the imdb article about the Nicholas Meyer directing NEM thing. ?

Apparently, Meyer wanted to rewrite John Logan's script for NEM, like he did with Bennett and Soward's script for TWOK. ?I don't know why, maybe Meyer didn't like Logan's original script or felt it could be better or maybe he just wanted to put his 2 cents in. ?Anyway, Berman had promised Logan the final rewrite of the script, so he said no to Meyer's request. ?Meyer ended up walking. ?

So, I dunno. ?Can Berman be faulted there? ?It kind of sounds that, like Nimoy with GEN, he brought Meyer into the process to late. ?If he'd gotten Meyer there right from the beginning, he could've gotten him to both write and direct the fourth TNG film. ?

Maybe, Meyer, like Nimoy has stated wrt GEN, didn't like working that way, being brought in at the last minute with no input on the script. ?That's not the way either of them worked on the original TOS films. ?Nimoy really didn't like the way Berman treated him wrt GEN.

I suspect that the plan was intentionally to bring in Meyer and Nimoy late into those processes.

Berman would have known full well that both of those men would have wanted maximum input into the creative process. Likely, Berman did not want to deal with that, but wanted to utilize their talents as directors.

Quite possibly, the solution was to offer the director's chair to them well after the "point of no return" on story development.

That's pure speculation...but it makes sense.

Maybe.  

I'll see if I can find that Nimoy quote, but the gist of it is, he did tell Berman well before the writing started for GEN that he was interested in directing the film and possibly appearing in it.  Then months later, he gets the call from Berman to talk about directing GEN.  Nimoy reads the script and doesn't like it and tells Berman he wants it rewritten.  Berman tells him that it's too late for that, because they're already well into production.  So, Nimoy ends up turning down directing the film.  

Nimoy summed it up pretty well.  He said that with TSFS, TVH, and TUC, he was making films for Paramount whereas with GEN, he was making a film for Rick Berman.  Nimoy said that he didn't want to work that way so he walked.  

After that, he never again got a single call from Paramount wrt any ST work.  He was sad to say that, before GEN, he was friends with Berman.  I guess it ended.  

Berman hasn't said anything specific about the meeting with Nimoy besides saying that Nimoy turned the job down.

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Report this Feb. 12 2010, 7:54 pm

What I mean by this topic was that there should be one more TNG movie and if there will be, then Nicholas Meyer should be given the honour to direct the movie because Meyer wrote and directed Star Trek II which really is the best trek movie and he did save the star trek franchise after the failure of The Motion Picture.

Also he directed Star Trek VI and gave TOS a great send off and Myeer could do the same for TNG

Also Meyer's TNG movie could save the star trek prime universe so a new star trek series could be made that would ¿be set in the prime universe

There are always possibilites

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Report this Feb. 14 2010, 10:21 am

TNG is over.  Believe me you TNG super fans don't want to see a reboot.

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