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Please make one last TNG movie

DeannaTRiker

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Report this Dec. 28 2009, 3:01 am

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I loved the new movie, but I'd still love to see a post Nemesis movie. And you can best bet that if the big wigs in Hollywood or Paramount think they can make a buck off of it, they're gonna do it. So with all of the reboots, redos, do overs, restarts, and reimaginings out there, we can look forward to it. Not a matter of if, but when. Some hotshot producer/director is gonna do it.

No, they WON'T do it, because there is absolutely no indication that such a film would make money. So, I'm agreeing with your statement, but I'm also acknowledging that since this condition will never be met, it won't happen.

It would draw a certain % of the fans, and virtually no general audience.

If they felt going "post-Nemesis" would work, and if ANY marketing data pointed to that, then I assure you they would have done it already.

The dream of the Post-Nemesis Star Trek adventure will have to live in STO.

I'd bet ever single penny I have that they simply WILLL NOT do this project as a major motion picture.

Not yet, anyway. But if they market it right, they will do it. Not saying that it'll be a big hit or anything (depending who's in it, and the storyline). But, I'd be willing to call you on that wager. Sometime in the future, look forward to it. Even if it's in the STO continuity.

I don't care for the new movie.

But I'd love to see another TNG movie! I want Data to live! How hopeless is that... or is it?

AtoZ2

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Report this Dec. 28 2009, 6:17 am

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But I'd love to see another TNG movie! I want Data to live! How hopeless is that... or is it?

It's completely hopeless so give it up.

DataLore04

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Report this Dec. 28 2009, 2:42 pm

Yeah, they had already stretched it by Insurrection but by Nemesis the aging and weight displacement were very apparent. Glad he knew it was time to exit, unfortunately they ruined it with the whole B4 gag and out clause in case they did make another TNG movie and wanted to feature Data. They already did it with Spock and it worked for him, but it was a much better written story line than the Data = B4, we all saw it coming from a mile away.

Data's death was sad but it would have been a lot sadder if he had saved the ship and there was no chance of him coming back. They could have also kept in the scenes of them cleaning out his quarters and dealing with Spot (that cat lived a LONG time, btw, lol) that would have made for a more poignant ending.

But TNG's swan song was screwed up on so many levels. But ultimately it was defeated by the fact that they couldn't commit to it being a official swan song. They were stuck in limbo of it being a goodbye or possibly we will see you again. The dismal sales and lack of interest made it a goodbye. But it was far from The Big Goodbye (pun intended) it should have and could have been.

Vorta_the_point

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Report this Dec. 28 2009, 6:50 pm

I agree, Datalore - Data's death just felt a bit... flat to me; it was almost like they were doing a paint by numbers thing where they needed to kill off a major character to make it a "major" plotline for the ending, rather than a fitting end to a character.

Data's uniqueness was something I felt should have had been set up to continue into the future of that Star Trek's timeline, rather than have it wasted in a pointless conflict - I rather felt it robbed the character of it's potential fully evolve, even if the audience would never see this evolution; it would have been enough to know that Data had this future.

Of course, this is entirely subjective and I may be in the minority on this, but this is simply my personal opinion.

Vger23

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Report this Dec. 29 2009, 10:07 am

I think the "intent" to have Data die through self sacrifice was a smart and bold decision from a storytelling standpoint. First, you have a character who is played by an aging actor who knows it is unrealistic for his character to be shown as aging. Rather than continue on, Spiner decided the character should be laid to rest. Second, the "death" of the only seemingly "immortal" character in the crew has a certain sense of irony that is interesting. Lastly, the sacrifice is supposed to bring Data's search for humanity to a close...as sacrifice to save others would be the most human action he could ever undertake.

All that being said, while the IDEA was very good, the EXECUTION of that idea was not. As Vorta pointed out, the whole event felt very flat and unemotional. I can never put my finger on why it doesn't work in the film, but it just feels empty for some reason.

DammitJim6200

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Report this Dec. 29 2009, 6:25 pm

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I loved the new movie, but I'd still love to see a post Nemesis movie. And you can best bet that if the big wigs in Hollywood or Paramount think they can make a buck off of it, they're gonna do it. So with all of the reboots, redos, do overs, restarts, and reimaginings out there, we can look forward to it. Not a matter of if, but when. Some hotshot producer/director is gonna do it.

No, they WON'T do it, because there is absolutely no indication that such a film would make money. So, I'm agreeing with your statement, but I'm also acknowledging that since this condition will never be met, it won't happen.

It would draw a certain % of the fans, and virtually no general audience.

If they felt going "post-Nemesis" would work, and if ANY marketing data pointed to that, then I assure you they would have done it already.

The dream of the Post-Nemesis Star Trek adventure will have to live in STO.

I'd bet ever single penny I have that they simply WILLL NOT do this project as a major motion picture.

Not yet, anyway. But if they market it right, they will do it. Not saying that it'll be a big hit or anything (depending who's in it, and the storyline). But, I'd be willing to call you on that wager. Sometime in the future, look forward to it. Even if it's in the STO continuity.

I don't care for the new movie.

But I'd love to see another TNG movie! I want Data to live! How hopeless is that... or is it?

Not only are you lovely, but smart..
A TNG MOVIE FOR 2011 !
Jean Luc Picard saves the universe again ! :D

PhantomCrunk007

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Report this Dec. 30 2009, 1:25 am

Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Dec. 29 2009, 3:25 am)
Quote (DeannaTRiker @ Dec. 27 2009, 4:01 am)
Quote (KALEL @ Dec. 20 2009, 7:49 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ Dec. 21 2009, 9:22 am)
Quote (KALEL @ Dec. 20 2009, 5:40 pm)
I loved the new movie, but I'd still love to see a post Nemesis movie. And you can best bet that if the big wigs in Hollywood or Paramount think they can make a buck off of it, they're gonna do it. So with all of the reboots, redos, do overs, restarts, and reimaginings out there, we can look forward to it. Not a matter of if, but when. Some hotshot producer/director is gonna do it.

No, they WON'T do it, because there is absolutely no indication that such a film would make money. So, I'm agreeing with your statement, but I'm also acknowledging that since this condition will never be met, it won't happen.

It would draw a certain % of the fans, and virtually no general audience.

If they felt going "post-Nemesis" would work, and if ANY marketing data pointed to that, then I assure you they would have done it already.

The dream of the Post-Nemesis Star Trek adventure will have to live in STO.

I'd bet ever single penny I have that they simply WILLL NOT do this project as a major motion picture.

Not yet, anyway. But if they market it right, they will do it. Not saying that it'll be a big hit or anything (depending who's in it, and the storyline). But, I'd be willing to call you on that wager. Sometime in the future, look forward to it. Even if it's in the STO continuity.

I don't care for the new movie.

But I'd love to see another TNG movie! I want Data to live! How hopeless is that... or is it?

Not only are you lovely, but smart..
A TNG MOVIE FOR 2011 !
Jean Luc Picard saves the universe again ! :D

then DJ woke up and his bed was wet.

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