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Please make one last TNG movie

applenwo

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 3:26 am

I dont know about you but after watching the last movie i truley miss the cast of TNG. I wasnt a big fan of nemesis but i always felt that they could really pull off one final film that would conclude nicely. as for the new star trek blahhhhhh. it didnt have that star trek feel.

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 5:18 am

Give it a few years, and once Hollywood has got sick of Kirk and co they may decide to do a Picard reboot ;)

Vger23

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 8:57 am

The TNG movies proved to be disappointing as a whole. FC was the only exception.

The fact of the matter is, except for some Trek fans, nobody is interested in seeing the TNG crew on the silver screen.

Sad, but that's the truth. There will be no more TNG films. Mark that down as fact.

ForTheWorldIsHollow

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 9:12 am

Besides, if you made a movie with the TNG cast now, it would just look like "All Good Things" due to age.  :)

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 9:12 am

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 03 2009, 5:18 am)
Give it a few years, and once Hollywood has got sick of Kirk and co they may decide to do a Picard reboot ;)

:logical: :logical: :logical:

HaventGotALife

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 9:30 am

Quote (Vger23 @ Dec. 02 2009, 9:57 am)
The TNG movies proved to be disappointing as a whole. FC was the only exception.

The fact of the matter is, except for some Trek fans, nobody is interested in seeing the TNG crew on the silver screen.

Sad, but that's the truth. There will be no more TNG films. Mark that down as fact.

I'd argue that First Contact is just as pathetic, if not more so, than the rest of the TNG movies. Look, are we explorers or soldiers? What is the point of making the Enterprise go to the Neutral Zone, and why did it take them 2 minutes to get there and even less time to destroy the cube?

The most interesting portion of this movie is Zefram Cochrane and what it says about our celebrities, heroes, and history books.

Is Deanna Troi a drunk? Does she usually neglect her duties to booze it up? Picard's story arc is poorly executed and worse yet he's against his character the entire time. Why? Turns out Starfleet was right--he can't handle re-engaging with them. Also, why did they just send one cube and decided, after it was destroyed, not to send another one? They seem bound and determined, especially with the Voyager arcs after this, to assimilate us. Why?

And because we so unceremoniously destroyed the Enterprise-D in the previous film, the entire conflict over destroying the ship feels like all we want to do is get through the letters of the alaphabet.

They change history in a more fundamental way than in any other Star Trek movie by telling Cochrane what's going to happen. It infuriates me every time. Riker, Troi, and Geordi are a part of First Contact now. It re-sets the entire Star Trek universe and we worry about losing Vulcan in movie XI, huh? Because of that movie, I don't think Enterprise is a pre-quel, but an attempt at a re-boot.

The Borg Queen is horrible. Worst character in Star Trek history, and I'm not kidding. It destroys all need to have Locutus in the first place! She acts like a human being--an evil one! The Borg are supposed to be faceless. You cannot negotiate with them, and that is apart of their danger. We can't open up trade-talks with them or set up a Neutral Zone. They are striving for perfection, and taking the rest of them with us.

Most of it, the most uninteresting portion, is a zombie movie with Starfleet uniforms.

Vger23

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 9:55 am

Quote (HaventGotALife @ Dec. 03 2009, 9:30 am)
Quote (Vger23 @ Dec. 02 2009, 9:57 am)
The TNG movies proved to be disappointing as a whole. FC was the only exception.

The fact of the matter is, except for some Trek fans, nobody is interested in seeing the TNG crew on the silver screen.

Sad, but that's the truth. There will be no more TNG films. Mark that down as fact.

I'd argue that First Contact is just as pathetic, if not more so, than the rest of the TNG movies. Look, are we explorers or soldiers? What is the point of making the Enterprise go to the Neutral Zone, and why did it take them 2 minutes to get there and even less time to destroy the cube?

The most interesting portion of this movie is Zefram Cochrane and what it says about our celebrities, heroes, and history books.

Is Deanna Troi a drunk? Does she usually neglect her duties to booze it up? Picard's story arc is poorly executed and worse yet he's against his character the entire time. Why? Turns out Starfleet was right--he can't handle re-engaging with them. Also, why did they just send one cube and decided, after it was destroyed, not to send another one? They seem bound and determined, especially with the Voyager arcs after this, to assimilate us. Why?

And because we so unceremoniously destroyed the Enterprise-D in the previous film, the entire conflict over destroying the ship feels like all we want to do is get through the letters of the alaphabet.

They change history in a more fundamental way than in any other Star Trek movie by telling Cochrane what's going to happen. It infuriates me every time. Riker, Troi, and Geordi are a part of First Contact now. It re-sets the entire Star Trek universe and we worry about losing Vulcan in movie XI, huh? Because of that movie, I don't think Enterprise is a pre-quel, but an attempt at a re-boot.

The Borg Queen is horrible. Worst character in Star Trek history, and I'm not kidding. It destroys all need to have Locutus in the first place! She acts like a human being--an evil one! The Borg are supposed to be faceless. You cannot negotiate with them, and that is apart of their danger. We can't open up trade-talks with them or set up a Neutral Zone. They are striving for perfection, and taking the rest of them with us.

Most of it, the most uninteresting portion, is a zombie movie with Starfleet uniforms.

Hard to argue many of these points.

But...

I've been a rabid Trek fan for 30 years, and I'm glad that I've never let these kinds of things bother me about the franchise. All that matters to me (ALL THAT MATTERS) is "am I entertained by that movie / series / episode???"

I don't care about the "ideals of Star Trek" being properly represented, continuity, canon, scientific accuracy, the look of the bridge, or whatever other non-factors are drivers for other people. I put that all aside and simply allow myself to be entertained (or not). Some movies do it for me, others don't. FC is not one of my favorites, but it is pretty darn entertaining.

It's like TWOK. TWOK is a wreck when it comes to problems, plot holes, etc...but it's still my favorite Trek movie.

Also, this whole "we're explorers" thing is a misconception, as I pointed out before. Roughly 20% of the episodes highlight a mission about exploring. More often than not, it is humanitarian aid, distress call response, diplomatic, or millitary. Check it out, and you'll see I'm right. It's been that way from the beginning. All the talk about "exploring new worlds" is bold and high-sounding, but largely inaccurate.

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 10:14 am

It will be interesting to see where Star trek will go after the next two movies. I am certain we will get one more JJ Abrams sequel and I am pretty sure we will get another one after that.

Will they reboot TNG? while I always say, never say never, I do feel that it may be very unlikely we would get a new TNG movie or even a reboot of TNG.

With about 3 years between each sequel the last of this new crop of JJ Trek won't see the light of day until 2015 and then add 3 years on to that until a possible TNG movie would make Patrick Stewart almost 80 years old by then. But even with a reboot we wouldn't see a TNG movie until 2018 at the earliest.

I have no clue to where the franchise will go after after Abrams Trek but I really don't see that TNG has the broad appeal that TOS had so I really am not holding my breath waiting for a TNG movie.

It is sad because I really like TNG.

RunnerX13

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 11:14 am

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 03 2009, 5:18 am)
Give it a few years, and once Hollywood has got sick of Kirk and co they may decide to do a Picard reboot ;)

If TNG was rebooted, would you want another British guy playing Picard, or an actual Frenchman?

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 11:34 am

Quote (RunnerX13 @ Dec. 02 2009, 5:14 pm)
If TNG was rebooted, would you want another British guy playing Picard, or an actual Frenchman?

I haven't really seen much TNG yet...is he actually meant to be French? Or just of French ancestry?

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 11:49 am

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 02 2009, 12:34 pm)
Quote (RunnerX13 @ Dec. 02 2009, 5:14 pm)
If TNG was rebooted, would you want another British guy playing Picard, or an actual Frenchman?

I haven't really seen much TNG yet...is he actually meant to be French? Or just of French ancestry?

His family has a vineyard in France. So yes, he actually is supposed to be from France.

Ali88

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 12:45 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Dec. 03 2009, 12:29 pm)
Quote (applenwo @ Dec. 03 2009, 3:26 am)
I dont know about you but after watching the last movie i truley miss the cast of TNG. I wasnt a big fan of nemesis but i always felt that they could really pull off one final film that would conclude nicely. as for the new star trek blahhhhhh. it didnt have that star trek feel.

Not going to happen...at least not until the nu-TOS movies have run their course and someone reboots TNG...

:logical:

I seriously hope TNG never gets rebooted

But I'm in favour of making one more TNG movie and it would have to have a decent story and a good enough script and aim to make it the best TNG movie since First Contact but no time travel story

Data's regeneration within B4 and his continuining mission to know what it means to be human will continue on and will be be a major theme in the film

The only problem is that Brent Spiner might be too old and fat now to play Data/B4 but if Spiner could get himself into shape now and if they use good enough make up and effects to make Spiner look as young as he did back in 2002, he might make able to pull it off


Perhaps the villian in the next and last TNG movie should be Q but maybe the actor who plays Q is too old now

RunnerX13

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 12:46 pm

Quote (SpaceTherapist @ Dec. 03 2009, 11:49 am)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Dec. 02 2009, 12:34 pm)
Quote (RunnerX13 @ Dec. 02 2009, 5:14 pm)
If TNG was rebooted, would you want another British guy playing Picard, or an actual Frenchman?

I haven't really seen much TNG yet...is he actually meant to be French? Or just of French ancestry?

His family has a vineyard in France. So yes, he actually is supposed to be from France.

Yup, French all the way. On one hand, if you were to recast Picard, a French person makes sense because a new actor should be based off the character, not based off the previous actor who portrayed Picard. But on the other hand, you can argue that despite Patrick Stewart being English, the character of Picard didn't have French accent.

Ali88

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 1:50 pm

Quote (starbase63 @ Dec. 03 2009, 1:33 pm)
Quote (Ali88 @ Dec. 03 2009, 12:45 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Dec. 03 2009, 12:29 pm)
Quote (applenwo @ Dec. 03 2009, 3:26 am)
I dont know about you but after watching the last movie i truley miss the cast of TNG. I wasnt a big fan of nemesis but i always felt that they could really pull off one final film that would conclude nicely. as for the new star trek blahhhhhh. it didnt have that star trek feel.

Not going to happen...at least not until the nu-TOS movies have run their course and someone reboots TNG...

:logical:

I seriously hope TNG never gets rebooted

But I'm in favour of making one more TNG movie and it would have to have a decent story and a good enough script and aim to make it the best TNG movie since First Contact but no time travel story

Data's regeneration within B4 and his continuining mission to know what it means to be human will continue on and will be be a major theme in the film

The only problem is that Brent Spiner might be too old and fat now to play Data/B4 but if Spiner could get himself into shape now and if they use good enough make up and effects to make Spiner look as young as he did back in 2002, he might make able to pull it off


Perhaps the villian in the next and last TNG movie should be Q but maybe the actor who plays Q is too old now

I never thought TOS would be rebooted...and it was.

Be very sure...if Paramount (or even CBS) thinks they can make sure money on it? They'll reboot TNG in a heartbeat.

:logical:

oh come on starbase 63

You honestly don't think Paramount will reboot TNG do you?

SpaceTherapist

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Report this Dec. 03 2009, 1:57 pm

Quote (Ali88 @ Dec. 02 2009, 2:50 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Dec. 03 2009, 1:33 pm)
Quote (Ali88 @ Dec. 03 2009, 12:45 pm)
Quote (starbase63 @ Dec. 03 2009, 12:29 pm)
Quote (applenwo @ Dec. 03 2009, 3:26 am)
I dont know about you but after watching the last movie i truley miss the cast of TNG. I wasnt a big fan of nemesis but i always felt that they could really pull off one final film that would conclude nicely. as for the new star trek blahhhhhh. it didnt have that star trek feel.

Not going to happen...at least not until the nu-TOS movies have run their course and someone reboots TNG...

:logical:

I seriously hope TNG never gets rebooted

But I'm in favour of making one more TNG movie and it would have to have a decent story and a good enough script and aim to make it the best TNG movie since First Contact but no time travel story

Data's regeneration within B4 and his continuining mission to know what it means to be human will continue on and will be be a major theme in the film

The only problem is that Brent Spiner might be too old and fat now to play Data/B4 but if Spiner could get himself into shape now and if they use good enough make up and effects to make Spiner look as young as he did back in 2002, he might make able to pull it off


Perhaps the villian in the next and last TNG movie should be Q but maybe the actor who plays Q is too old now

I never thought TOS would be rebooted...and it was.

Be very sure...if Paramount (or even CBS) thinks they can make sure money on it? They'll reboot TNG in a heartbeat.

:logical:

oh come on starbase 63

You honestly don't think Paramount will reboot TNG do you?

If the big wigs think it will make some $$$ it will be rebooted!

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