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Playmates' JJ-Trek action toy line = FLOP

Captain_Storma

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 9:29 am

Quote (PhantomCrunk007 @ Nov. 27 2009, 6:48 pm)
Cant touch Ertl for their quality line of Trek models. You just had to be good at painting them and putting them together. ?Nowadays you can only find them on Ebay for like $70 a pop.

Even ERTL was not accurate. Their Enterprise-E was totally out of proportion.

So far the only accurate E-Es released are the DST Enterprise-E (Nemesis version with the elongated neck section and the repositioned nacelles) and an independent non-official Alliance Resin Model Kit which is the most accurate FC/INS reproduction of the ship.

All other models and toys are not accurate. Believe me, I have an obsession when it comes to proportions and accuracy with that particular ship ;)

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 9:37 am

Quote (Trekwolf164 @ Nov. 28 2009, 2:48 am)
The Diamond Select Trek toys are very good reproductions of the ships and characters.

The playmate toys are very poor likenesses.

Trust me I have lots of Trek toys


:logical:

Agreed. Art Asylum and DST really are very detailed, although their character department somehow lost quality over the years.

I bought a full set of ENTERPRISE characters, and those were spot on. You could take a picture of those characters compare them with the actors and you had a match.

Same with the short lived NEMESIS line. The paint job here was slightly off (especially with Picard) but with a proper repaint you got something like this:



And those two are probably the best replicas of all TREK lines, they are NECA/McFarlane quality



the detail of the latest DST releases lacks that similarity with the on screen characters sadly.

Their ships department is not affected by that quality loss. Their latest release the Enterprise-D is studiomodel quality, especially the AGT variant, which is probably the coolest toy ship ever released.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 9:43 am

Yeah most wally worlds around here clearance them off. It sucks how wal-mart has sections and tags in each aisle for toys. Then I walk down the action figure section and see Star Wars, Transformers, Gi Joe but alas no tag for Trek.

I wonder if we will ever see wave 2 of the figures? They were supposed to be shipping already. I think wave 2 may end up being produced in a short run and be worth some cash in the future.

Playmates said they would start adding them into the first wave case assortments. They did that in the 90's and look at what happened with some of series 3 and series 4. We got a Tom Riker, Q in judges Robes, and a few other short packs.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 9:50 am

And while we are talking about playmates new Trek line. Message to playmates. How dumb can you be? You have a unique opportunity to be the first to make a George Kirk figure. Can you please explain why a 12" and 6" one is not flying off the shelves?

Oh that's right you don't want to spend the money to make a new mold. So instead let's do like we did in the 90's and make Picard in every sexual position possible figure (greatly exaggerated to create sarcasm on how playmates made many figures with the same mold in different uniform).

So playmates you make a Drakoulous and lobster whatever monster which had how much screen time and didn't speak a word (at least that we can understand) But no George Kirk legendary father to a legend. At least he is a legend now.

I mean cmon Robau deserves a figure more than Spock in black academy uniform or these two delta vega monsters.

Don't get me started on "GENERAL" Ayel

I actually e-mailed playmates about GENERAL Ayel and got no response.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 2:49 pm

I'm sure if they wanted to I'm sure they would.  However, note that it's only adults discussing these kinds of things, and I doubt they were marketing their toy lines towards us here.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 2:55 pm

The question is: Why not make high quality product that looks exactly like the character shown on screen.

We all know it is possible. Look (again) at NECA and McFarlane. Those figures only cost slightly more than Playmates toys, yet look exactly like the characters they are ment to resemble.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 3:00 pm

It is true though. An adult will buy a good quality toy for a good price. If the toy resembles who it is supposed to represent it will mean better quality for that toy. The same may be true for children. I think the Burger King toys had a much better resemblance but they were proportioned like a bobble head. If the Playmates toys took some cues from these Burger King toys I think they would sell better. The bodies on the Playmates toys can also be improved. In my opinion they need a better sculptor artist.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 3:37 pm

I will also look more into the process of making these toys so I can see how their methods can be improved.

:logical:  :logical:

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 4:51 pm

Quote (Yanks @ Dec. 01 2009, 12:16 am)
The only ST toys I would consider purchasing:

good ol' 1701.
Our new 1701.
NX-01.

..and they would have to be incredibly detailed.

Never got into action figures of any kind... I had GI-Joe, but that ended up in the bottom of my toy box pretty quickly.

TOS 1701 was released by DST (very detailed and accurate model) in various version:
- Standard
- "The Cage" version
- "Where no man has gone before" version
- "Mirror Mirror" version
- HD version (with added details to the saucer just like in the remastered TV show)

The NX-01 has been released by Art Asylum/DST:
- Standard
- Battle Damaged
- Mirror

Both are really well made, high quality products which will satisfy both collectors and kids who want to play with them.

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Report this Nov. 30 2009, 7:13 pm

Nothing compares to the Diamond Select / Art Asylum toys. They are absolutely awesome. I bought a TOS Sciences Tricorder from Toys R Us two weeks ago. It's absolutely awesome.

God, I wish I had stuff like that when I was growing up.

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Report this Dec. 01 2009, 6:57 am

Quote (WkdYngMan @ Nov. 30 2009, 7:49 pm)
I'm sure if they wanted to I'm sure they would. ¿However, note that it's only adults discussing these kinds of things, and I doubt they were marketing their toy lines towards us here.

They should have been aiming at adult collectors. Even with Doctor Who - which as a family show has far more younger fans than Star Trek - sells more action figures to adult collectors than to children. Four times more if you want the exact figure. And that's why the figures are now made primarily with the collectors in mind.

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Report this Dec. 01 2009, 8:31 am

Quote (ServalanFan @ Nov. 30 2009, 10:24 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 30 2009, 7:13 pm)
Nothing compares to the Diamond Select / Art Asylum toys. They are absolutely awesome. I bought a TOS Sciences Tricorder from Toys R Us two weeks ago. It's absolutely awesome.

God, I wish I had stuff like that when I was growing up.

I've got one too + the TOS phaser. They're great. But the stuff from the new film looks like very low quality to me.
I have the 3.75 inch figures from the movie. They bear some resemblance to the characters but I think that even my Star Trek minimates are better.
The 18 inch figures from the movie look pretty nice though. Saw them in my local gaming shop.

Well, that's the difference between Playmates and AA/DS. The Playmates stuff for Trek XI was pretty mediocre, no doubt about it.

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Report this Dec. 01 2009, 9:58 am

Quote (ServalanFan @ Dec. 01 2009, 6:44 am)
Can anybody tell me how to get rid of the purple texta my son has drawn on my nuMovie Enterprise (that came with my DVD)?
See what happens when you let your children play with your toys. :O

Was it crayon? It depends what he used to write on it with.

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