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Nov. 29 2009, 8:16 pm
Obviously they did something right:
Best box office results of the franchise
Best reviewed film of the franchise
Most well-received film with general audiences of the franchise
Most well-received film with the fans in almost 15 years
Best positive "Trek" buzz since TNG premiered in 1987
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Nov. 29 2009, 8:21 pm
| Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:11 pm) | | Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 7:22 pm) | | I also think that extending the story would have been a mistake at this point. While Star Wars was still a hit when it left of at chapter 6, Star Trek was not doing so well it's last few movies. To go and spend 2 hours on Kirk in his young days and another 2 hours in Star Fleet Academy would probably not have attracted many who were already dissatisfied with Star Trek. Even if the public had been hungry for 4 hours of Kirk in his youth, they still set a good foundation with this re-boot without doing that. I personally found Star Wars chapters 1, 2 and 3 too drawn out. |
I wonder if they could have done SW Chapters 1, 2 and 3 in one film? Abrams must have thought the same way with Trek. Do we spread this out or do three movie to get to Kirk being Captain. Would the general audience like that? Didn't Abrams meet with Lucas? Or was that just a rumor? DJ6200 also forgets that Abrams said he is a SW fan more than a Trek fan but he also liked Trek. DJ6200 you should really see the behind the scenes stuff about the movie. It really explains why they did what they did in the new movie. I think they even said they thought SW was cooler than Trek and they wanted to make Trek cool like SW. |
I don't recall Abrams saying that he was more a fan of Star Wars then Star Trek but the comment was made that Star Trek was more like classical music and Star Wars was more like Rock and Roll and they wanted to bring a little more Rock and Roll to Star Trek. I'm sure someone will provide the exact quote. JJ took ideas from Star Wars, and Indiana Jones as well. But it wasn't just JJ either. He had a crew of people from those that new every detail about Star Trek on down to those that knew very little about Star Trek. In this way he got a balanced viewpoint of how to make it a hit. |
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Nov. 29 2009, 8:23 pm
| Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:16 pm) | Obviously they did something right:
Best box office results of the franchise
Best reviewed film of the franchise
Most well-received film with general audiences of the franchise
Most well-received film with the fans in almost 15 years
Best positive "Trek" buzz since TNG premiered in 1987 |
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Nov. 29 2009, 8:23 pm
| Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:21 pm) | | Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:11 pm) | | Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 7:22 pm) | | I also think that extending the story would have been a mistake at this point. While Star Wars was still a hit when it left of at chapter 6, Star Trek was not doing so well it's last few movies. To go and spend 2 hours on Kirk in his young days and another 2 hours in Star Fleet Academy would probably not have attracted many who were already dissatisfied with Star Trek. Even if the public had been hungry for 4 hours of Kirk in his youth, they still set a good foundation with this re-boot without doing that. I personally found Star Wars chapters 1, 2 and 3 too drawn out. |
I wonder if they could have done SW Chapters 1, 2 and 3 in one film? Abrams must have thought the same way with Trek. Do we spread this out or do three movie to get to Kirk being Captain. Would the general audience like that? Didn't Abrams meet with Lucas? Or was that just a rumor? DJ6200 also forgets that Abrams said he is a SW fan more than a Trek fan but he also liked Trek. DJ6200 you should really see the behind the scenes stuff about the movie. It really explains why they did what they did in the new movie. I think they even said they thought SW was cooler than Trek and they wanted to make Trek cool like SW. |
I don't recall Abrams saying that he was more a fan of Star Wars then star trek but the comment was made that Star Trek was more like classical music and Star Wars was more like Rock and Roll and they wanted to bring a little more Rock and Roll to Star Trek. I'm sure someone will provide the exact quote. JJ took ideas from Star Wars, and Indiana Jones as well. But it wasn't just JJ either. He had a crew of people from those that new every detail about Star Trek on down to those that knew very little about Star Trek. In this way he got a balanced viewpoint of how to make it a hit. |
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Nov. 29 2009, 8:27 pm
| Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:21 pm) | | Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:11 pm) | | Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 7:22 pm) | | I also think that extending the story would have been a mistake at this point. While Star Wars was still a hit when it left of at chapter 6, Star Trek was not doing so well it's last few movies. To go and spend 2 hours on Kirk in his young days and another 2 hours in Star Fleet Academy would probably not have attracted many who were already dissatisfied with Star Trek. Even if the public had been hungry for 4 hours of Kirk in his youth, they still set a good foundation with this re-boot without doing that. I personally found Star Wars chapters 1, 2 and 3 too drawn out. |
I wonder if they could have done SW Chapters 1, 2 and 3 in one film? Abrams must have thought the same way with Trek. Do we spread this out or do three movie to get to Kirk being Captain. Would the general audience like that? Didn't Abrams meet with Lucas? Or was that just a rumor? DJ6200 also forgets that Abrams said he is a SW fan more than a Trek fan but he also liked Trek. DJ6200 you should really see the behind the scenes stuff about the movie. It really explains why they did what they did in the new movie. I think they even said they thought SW was cooler than Trek and they wanted to make Trek cool like SW. |
I don't recall Abrams saying that he was more a fan of Star Wars then star trek but the comment was made that Star Trek was more like classical music and Star Wars was more like Rock and Roll and they wanted to bring a little more Rock and Roll to Star Trek. I'm sure someone will provide the exact quote. JJ took ideas from Star Wars, and Indiana Jones as well. But it wasn't just JJ either. He had a crew of people from those that new every detail about Star Trek on down to those that knew very little about Star Trek. In this way he got a balanced viewpoint of how to make it a hit. |
Yeh I saw the behind the scenes on the movie. Abrams did say he was a SW fan more than a Trek fan but Abrams liked Trek. I also think the cast and crew that worked with him were great. They had a Scottish First Assistant Director that was serious but funny. They also said how they had a hard time between balancing the old with the new. Also that alot of the cast and crew were Trek fans but some weren't and Abrams like that. They also used alot of Trek fan resources on the web. |
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Nov. 29 2009, 9:39 pm
| Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:27 pm) | | Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:21 pm) | | Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:11 pm) | | Quote (slehman805 @ Nov. 29 2009, 7:22 pm) | | I also think that extending the story would have been a mistake at this point. While Star Wars was still a hit when it left of at chapter 6, Star Trek was not doing so well it's last few movies. To go and spend 2 hours on Kirk in his young days and another 2 hours in Star Fleet Academy would probably not have attracted many who were already dissatisfied with Star Trek. Even if the public had been hungry for 4 hours of Kirk in his youth, they still set a good foundation with this re-boot without doing that. I personally found Star Wars chapters 1, 2 and 3 too drawn out. |
I wonder if they could have done SW Chapters 1, 2 and 3 in one film? Abrams must have thought the same way with Trek. Do we spread this out or do three movie to get to Kirk being Captain. Would the general audience like that? Didn't Abrams meet with Lucas? Or was that just a rumor? DJ6200 also forgets that Abrams said he is a SW fan more than a Trek fan but he also liked Trek. DJ6200 you should really see the behind the scenes stuff about the movie. It really explains why they did what they did in the new movie. I think they even said they thought SW was cooler than Trek and they wanted to make Trek cool like SW. |
I don't recall Abrams saying that he was more a fan of Star Wars then star trek but the comment was made that Star Trek was more like classical music and Star Wars was more like Rock and Roll and they wanted to bring a little more Rock and Roll to Star Trek. I'm sure someone will provide the exact quote. JJ took ideas from Star Wars, and Indiana Jones as well. But it wasn't just JJ either. He had a crew of people from those that new every detail about Star Trek on down to those that knew very little about Star Trek. In this way he got a balanced viewpoint of how to make it a hit. |
Yeh I saw the behind the scenes on the movie. Abrams did say he was a SW fan more than a Trek fan but Abrams liked Trek. I also think the cast and crew that worked with him were great. They had a Scottish First Assistant Director that was serious but funny. They also said how they had a hard time between balancing the old with the new. Also that alot of the cast and crew were Trek fans but some weren't and Abrams like that. They also used alot of Trek fan resources on the web. |
I'm sure you are correct. I just don't remember. I remember him saying he was more a Twilight Zone fan but that's about it. In watching the extras though you do see that they put a lot of time and thought in to the new movie. I think, as Leonard Nimoy said, that they captured what was good about the original Star Trek. |
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Nov. 29 2009, 9:42 pm
| Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 29 2009, 8:16 pm) | Obviously they did something right:
Best box office results of the franchise
Best reviewed film of the franchise
Most well-received film with general audiences of the franchise
Most well-received film with the fans in almost 15 years
Best positive "Trek" buzz since TNG premiered in 1987 |
I bet the membership is up on this board as well because of the new movie. Anyone know? |
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Nov. 29 2009, 9:45 pm
Perhaps but the membership on this board is up and down through time. We can also look at trekbbs and especially startrekmovie forums. If you think about it every member of startrekmovie forums was new since the movie came out so their member list is another good indicator of new and existing fans who like to discuss the new movie. I am encouraged by the new fans gained from this movie and also happy for any new members on this forum.
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Nov. 30 2009, 1:58 am
| Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Nov. 27 2009, 2:46 pm) | | Cherry on top...Life is difficult, we all need heroes, but we must distinguish true heroes from false ones.. |
What??? Are you implying that TNG characters are "TRUE HEROES"??? Looks like someone cant tell the defiance between the real world and the one on tv. | Quote | True heroes..
It all comes back to TNG and Jean Luc Picard, dosen't ? |
Nope, because Picard and TNG crew are not true heroes. They are works of fiction. | Quote | And for the record even a fatal stab couldn't kill Picard.
Pike had to save kirk from being beat to mush.. How sad |
He survived because others helped him. |
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Nov. 30 2009, 8:16 am
| Quote (stovokor2000 @ Nov. 30 2009, 1:58 am) | | Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Nov. 27 2009, 2:46 pm) | | Cherry on top...Life is difficult, we all need heroes, but we must distinguish true heroes from false ones.. |
What???
Are you implying that TNG characters are "TRUE HEROES"???
Looks like someone cant tell the defiance between the real world and the one on tv.
| Quote | True heroes..
It all comes back to TNG and Jean Luc Picard, dosen't ? |
Nope, because Picard and TNG crew are not true heroes.
They are works of fiction.
| Quote | And for the record even a fatal stab couldn't kill Picard.
Pike had to save kirk from being beat to mush.. How sad |
He survived because others helped him. |
Why bother, stovokor? Clearly, the guy has more "issues" than National Geographic.  |
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Nov. 30 2009, 8:21 am
| Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 30 2009, 8:16 am) | | Quote (stovokor2000 @ Nov. 30 2009, 1:58 am) | | Quote (DammitJim6200 @ Nov. 27 2009, 2:46 pm) | | Cherry on top...Life is difficult, we all need heroes, but we must distinguish true heroes from false ones.. |
What???
Are you implying that TNG characters are "TRUE HEROES"???
Looks like someone cant tell the defiance between the real world and the one on tv.
| Quote | True heroes..
It all comes back to TNG and Jean Luc Picard, dosen't ? |
Nope, because Picard and TNG crew are not true heroes.
They are works of fiction.
| Quote | And for the record even a fatal stab couldn't kill Picard.
Pike had to save kirk from being beat to mush.. How sad |
He survived because others helped him. |
Why bother, stovokor?
Clearly, the guy has more "issues" than National Geographic.
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Good one. |
