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DRAGON_ROSE

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 3:17 am

i have seen all 4 of the x men films and though i enjoy them i have one q; what's the time line.

1.we know logan kills his dad and runs off with victor in 1845 but what year does striker take away his memory?

2.when does rougue (marie) get hers ( which is 15 years aftr logan loses his memory)?

3. how long is it between what happens on liberty island and stiker returning?

4. how long is it till jean ( pheonix) comes back?

stovokor2000

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 4:26 am

Quote (DRAGON_ROSE @ Nov. 17 2009, 3:17 am)
i have seen all 4 of the x men films and though i enjoy them i have one q; what's the time line.

What I'm about to give you is an "estimate" timeline.

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2.when does rougue (marie) get hers ( which is 15 years aftr logan loses his memory)?


Sorry what???

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4. how long is it till jean ( pheonix) comes back?


If she returns.

Who's to say.

NuclearWessels

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 9:57 am

are we sure the first movie took place in 2000?  DUring one of the first scenes they showed the setting as "the not too distant future".  they did it again with X-Men 3

exodus201

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 10:39 am

Stryker takes away Wolverines memories in 1979, remember the end of Wolverine film takes place on 3 Mile Island and is the actual cause of the nuclear diaster there. ?That took place in 1979 in the real world. ¿That's your point of referance in figureing out the rest of the timeline.

Wolverine meets Rogue the same year the film come out our time.

Liberty Island and Styker returning takes place 1 or two years later, I think they mention it in the film. ?Plus, Cyclops' Mazda is the newest years model which indictes the the year as well.

Jean- Phoenix returns one year later. ?
I believe Storm mentions it in her talk with Xavier about why are they still hiding. ?There's also a delted seen mentioning Magneto's gone into hiding for a year after the Dam at Alkili Lake was destroyed.

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 10:54 am

You can't assign year dates to comic books and movies... The best you can do is "some time later"...

You can only say something happened before something else.  
Logan is born and kills his father
Logan and Sabertooth go to War
etc. etc. etc.

Many movies have a sequel made years later but are supposed to take place the next day.

And comic book people are pretty much immortal as far as what year what took place.

For example Kitty Pryde and I were close to the same age when she was introduced... (before she died) she was about 23ish... I'm 43...

Peter Parker is maybe 25...

Attaching a year to comic characters just doesn't work...

exodus201

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 11:00 am

Quote (QdonQ @ Nov. 17 2009, 10:54 am)
You can't assign year dates to comic books and movies... The best you can do is "some time later"...

You can only say something happened before something else. ?
Logan is born and kills his father
Logan and Sabertooth go to War
etc. etc. etc.

Many movies have a sequel made years later but are supposed to take place the next day.

And comic book people are pretty much immortal as far as what year what took place.

For example Kitty Pryde and I were close to the same age when she was introduced... (before she died) she was about 23ish... I'm 43...

Peter Parker is maybe 25...

Attaching a year to comic characters just doesn't work...

You can.

In Wolverine, they clearly state it's on "3 Mile Island".
Three Mile Island made National News in 1979. ?They again stated in X-Men that Wolverine and Prof. X are very old.

Comicbook films try and keep close to real world believability, so it doesn't matter what you read in the comics. ?That changes when it comes to films. ?

For example: the events in Spider-man 1 took decades to unfold in comics. ?It happen over the course of a few months in the film which started out at graduation and progressed past Thangiving. ? You saw them graduate & you later saw them sitting down to Thanksgiving dinner.  That sets a stardard time frame.

QdonQ

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 1:38 pm

Not a good idea... for example...

In 1939-41 Magneto was 13-15.

Now that  makes him 85ish... An 85 year old man is wearing diapers not taking over the world.

Not a great idea to concentrate on years things happen...

You will come up with too many inconsistencies...

stovokor2000

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 1:44 pm

Quote (NuclearWessels @ Nov. 17 2009, 9:57 am)
are we sure the first movie took place in 2000? ¿DUring one of the first scenes they showed the setting as "the not too distant future". ¿they did it again with X-Men 3

Based on the appearances of Magneto, young and old, I believe the first film took place in or around the year 2000.

Magneto looked about 12 [not much more] in 1944 Poland and about his mid 60's early 70's in the rest of the film.

It would have to be the early 2000's.

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 1:46 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ Nov. 17 2009, 10:39 am)
Stryker takes away Wolverines memories in 1979, remember the end of Wolverine film takes place on 3 Mile Island and is the actual cause of the nuclear diaster there. ?That took place in 1979 in the real world. ?That's your point of referance in figureing out the rest of the timeline.

Wolverine meets Rogue the same year the film come out our time.

Liberty Island and Styker returning takes place 1 or two years later, I think they mention it in the film. ?Plus, Cyclops' Mazda is the newest years model which indictes the the year as well.

Jean- Phoenix returns one year later. ?
I believe Storm mentions it in her talk with Xavier about why are they still hiding. ?There's also a delted seen mentioning Magneto's gone into hiding for a year after the Dam at Alkili Lake was destroyed.

I didnt realise that was 3 mile island.

Only saw the film once so I guess I didnt catch it.

Good one.

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 2:17 pm

Quote (stovokor2000 @ Nov. 17 2009, 1:44 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Nov. 17 2009, 9:57 am)
are we sure the first movie took place in 2000? ?DUring one of the first scenes they showed the setting as "the not too distant future". ?they did it again with X-Men 3

Based on the appearances of Magneto, young and old, I believe the first film took place in or around the year 2000.

Magneto looked about 12 [not much more] in 1944 Poland and about his mid 60's early 70's in the rest of the film.

It would have to be the early 2000's.

12 is young to go through puberty... I was giving him the benefit of the doubt  saying 13 -15

at least 72 yrs old (if you start at 1944) making him now closer to 80...

exodus201

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 2:21 pm

Quote (QdonQ @ Nov. 17 2009, 1:38 pm)
Not a good idea... for example...

In 1939-41 Magneto was 13-15.

Now that ?makes him 85ish... An 85 year old man is wearing diapers not taking over the world.

Not a great idea to concentrate on years things happen...

You will come up with too many inconsistencies...

Um, Magneto even by a comic book time line is still an old man.

Banshee is about the same age as Xavier & Magneto yet he's drawn like he's 30.

It's a comic book.
Nobody reading it would find Magneto a threat if he actually looked his age.

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 2:25 pm

Quote (QdonQ @ Nov. 17 2009, 2:17 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Nov. 17 2009, 1:44 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Nov. 17 2009, 9:57 am)
are we sure the first movie took place in 2000? ?DUring one of the first scenes they showed the setting as "the not too distant future". ?they did it again with X-Men 3

Based on the appearances of Magneto, young and old, I believe the first film took place in or around the year 2000.

Magneto looked about 12 [not much more] in 1944 Poland and about his mid 60's early 70's in the rest of the film.

It would have to be the early 2000's.

12 is young to go through puberty... I was giving him the benefit of the doubt ?saying 13 -15

at least 72 yrs old (if you start at 1944) making him now closer to 80...

Mutant powers don't manifist at just puberty.
Several times during the X-Men comics they've stated they activate for a number of reasons. ¿For example: one version of Iceman origin has his powers as active since his birth. ¿Jean Grey's activated the moment she saw her friend die in a car accident while she was 10.  It also could be the reason why Jean & Iceman fall under the classification as "Omega" level mutants.

stovokor2000

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 2:34 pm

Quote (QdonQ @ Nov. 17 2009, 2:17 pm)
Quote (stovokor2000 @ Nov. 17 2009, 1:44 pm)
Quote (NuclearWessels @ Nov. 17 2009, 9:57 am)
are we sure the first movie took place in 2000? ?DUring one of the first scenes they showed the setting as "the not too distant future". ?they did it again with X-Men 3

Based on the appearances of Magneto, young and old, I believe the first film took place in or around the year 2000.

Magneto looked about 12 [not much more] in 1944 Poland and about his mid 60's early 70's in the rest of the film.

It would have to be the early 2000's.

12 is young to go through puberty... I was giving him the benefit of the doubt ¿saying 13 -15

at least 72 yrs old (if you start at 1944) making him now closer to 80...

Puberty generally starts in girls around age 10 and in boys around age 12.

From what I remember of my biology class the average age for boys entering puberty is 11

exodus201

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 3:13 pm

Seriously, we're debating the logic of how these characters look in comics based upon the age their supposed to be.

We're talking about a universe where a White British girl can turn into an adult Asian woman w/ Ninja figthing skills and a giant man roams outer space looking for planets to eat.

Come on, seriously? :laugh:

stovokor2000

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 4:16 pm

Quote (exodus201 @ Nov. 17 2009, 3:13 pm)
Seriously, we're debating the logic of how these characters look in comics based upon the age their supposed to be.

We're talking about a universe where a White British girl can turn into an adult Asian woman w/ Ninja figthing skills and a giant man roams outer space looking for planets to eat.

Come on, seriously? :laugh:

Well I thought we were debating how old they look in the films not the comics.

But your point is well taken.

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