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Nov. 13 2009, 4:00 pm
| Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 3:26 pm) | | No it just proves how lucky New Orleans was the storm MISSED THEM. ?Much ignored fact is that New Orleans wasn't hit by Katrina it was Buloxi Mississippi I think which was far more heavily damage then New Orleans. The damage in New Orleans wasn't near as bad as it could have been all that happened was levies which hadn't been upgraded in thirty years due to negligence on the part of state and local officials. ?Instead of a lot of water coming in at once they had a relatively slow trickle of water allowing people to escape to higher ground. |
wrong!! | Quote | | After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. |
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Nov. 13 2009, 4:01 pm
| Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 3:56 pm) | | Quote (God_in_an_Alcove @ Nov. 12 2009, 4:31 pm) | | Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 12:26 pm) | | No it just proves how lucky New Orleans was the storm MISSED THEM. ?Much ignored fact is that New Orleans wasn't hit by Katrina it was Buloxi Mississippi I think which was far more heavily damage then New Orleans. |
What's you're criteria for saying that it missed New Orleans? If your criteria is that the eye of the storm didn't pass overhead, then not many places actually get hit by hurricanes at all, but then you're just trivialized all the other damage done. Fact of the matter, the hurricane did pass over New Orleans. It was hit hard. Maybe not as hard as other places, but then again, the vast majority of those places aren't below sea level. |
I am going by the fact that many in the media claimed that New Orleans "dodged a bullet" until the levies broke. ¿Most of the damage to the city was not done by hurricane winds but by flooding from what ever lake surrounds New Orleans. |
you are splitting hairs. There was damage done. It was the result of the storm. If it was done by wind or water is irrelevent. |
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Nov. 13 2009, 4:10 pm
| Quote (nhranger @ Nov. 12 2009, 5:00 pm) | | Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 3:26 pm) | | No it just proves how lucky New Orleans was the storm MISSED THEM. ?Much ignored fact is that New Orleans wasn't hit by Katrina it was Buloxi Mississippi I think which was far more heavily damage then New Orleans. The damage in New Orleans wasn't near as bad as it could have been all that happened was levies which hadn't been upgraded in thirty years due to negligence on the part of state and local officials. ?Instead of a lot of water coming in at once they had a relatively slow trickle of water allowing people to escape to higher ground. |
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| Quote | | After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. |
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they had almost ten years worth of money to put into improvements and yet we had no improvements and since the federal government gives the money to the state and local officials to spend we can blame the wasted 6 years on state and local officials. It is like that bridge that collapsed a few years ago the fed did give them the money but the state officials wasted it on new projects that get them votes. |
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Nov. 13 2009, 4:23 pm
I admire GW so much. He did what he thought was right not what polls said were popular.
Right or wrong that is what we elect a president to do.
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Nov. 13 2009, 4:23 pm
| Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 4:10 pm) | | Quote (nhranger @ Nov. 12 2009, 5:00 pm) | | Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 13 2009, 3:26 pm) | | No it just proves how lucky New Orleans was the storm MISSED THEM. ?Much ignored fact is that New Orleans wasn't hit by Katrina it was Buloxi Mississippi I think which was far more heavily damage then New Orleans. The damage in New Orleans wasn't near as bad as it could have been all that happened was levies which hadn't been upgraded in thirty years due to negligence on the part of state and local officials. ?Instead of a lot of water coming in at once they had a relatively slow trickle of water allowing people to escape to higher ground. |
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| Quote | | After a flood killed six people in 1995, Congress created the Southeast Louisiana Urban Flood Control Project, in which the Corps of Engineers strengthened and renovated levees and pumping stations. In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City. But by 2003 the federal funding for the flood control project essentially dried up as it was drained into the Iraq war. In 2004, the Bush administration cut funding requested by the New Orleans district of the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for holding back the waters of Lake Pontchartrain by more than 80 percent. |
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they had almost ten years worth of money to put into improvements and yet we had no improvements and since the federal government gives the money to the state and local officials to spend we can blame the wasted 6 years on state and local officials. ¿It is like that bridge that collapsed a few years ago the fed did give them the money but the state officials wasted it on new projects that get them votes. |
Flood control managed by the Army corp of engineers has nothing to do with local and state government. |
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Nov. 14 2009, 9:12 am
| Quote (Yanks @ Nov. 14 2009, 8:59 am) | | Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 12 2009, 5:06 pm) | | My Webpage ?Some former none bush fans have a change of heart |
Oh, BTW.
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I agree. That article wasn't a big surprise. Only that some of his critics are at least acknowledging it. |
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Nov. 14 2009, 8:10 pm
I think the Bushs did a wonderful thing by spending time with the families. And granted, it would have been a nice gesture if Obama had spent more time on the subject that he did. However, I do have to point out that Obama is slightly busier than Bush right now. And not to take away from the tragedy at the army base, but a lot more people died in Katrina, and we all know how well Bush handled that.
Regardless, I'm glad to hear that Bush is reaching out.
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Nov. 15 2009, 2:51 am
anyone else look around that site at all? I wonder where it is that they were so critical of Bush when the blog archives only go back to feb of 08  |
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Nov. 15 2009, 4:38 am
| Quote (exodus201 @ Nov. 13 2009, 10:09 am) | | Quote (Red_Shirt_Casualty @ Nov. 13 2009, 9:17 am) | | Quote (exodus201 @ Nov. 11 2009, 9:50 pm) | | Quote (chr3335 @ Nov. 12 2009, 8:20 pm) | | Quote (TheChronicOne @ Nov. 11 2009, 8:12 pm) | | Democrats haven't "got" anything because they are not foolish enough to pre-judge. |
Except they did it to the Bush administration. |
..and Bush did little in the way of proving them wrong.
I find it interesting that the article speculates what Obama would have done vs. Bush during 9/11 and the war on terrorism, even thought terrorism happens daily all over the world yet we didn't care until in happen in our own backyard but it doesn't touch upon the sloppy and half assed job done in New Orleans. A city as old & rich in American history as the country itself.
So not only did you have hundreds of families without food or shelter. ?Due to poor economy, those same hundreds of people can't even find work to restart their lives over. ?Instead the Bush administration dumped more & more money into bringing not Osama but Hussan instead. |
There were a lot of people who f'ed up Katrina, before-during-and after. Among these was mayor Ray Nagin who made sure to get out of town himself and gave very little thought about utilizing every resource at his disposal to get people out of the city. Then there was the state governor who did very little to organize any relief efforts. It's funny how those that like to place blame, only think that Bush was responsible. Hilarious. |
Yes, it is funny when people assume.
However, the President is "Commander and Chief " and it's up too him to see that those under him such as the Mayor & Govenor in a time of crisis fall in line. ?So he failed in that aspect too. |
Indeed. |
