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Spock Quote

Alexa54

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Report this Nov. 12 2009, 7:26 am

Hi I am after a spock quote where he is on about that ' you cant predict the future if you dont understand the past'

be greatful for any direction

cheers!

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Nov. 12 2009, 10:37 am

That's from Mirror, Mirror where Kirk is talking to Mirror Spock before Kirk and co. transport back to the prime timeline. IF I remember correctly it goes something like:

 Kirk: "If change is inevitable, predictable, beneficial, doesn't
logic demand that you be a part of it? One man cannot summon the
future. But one man can change the present. Be the Captain of this
Enterprise, Mr. Spock. Find a logical reason for sparing the
Halkans and make it stick. Push till it gives. You can defend
yourself better than any man in the fleet."

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Nov. 12 2009, 10:57 am

It's the only thing in TOS  that come remotely close. I had just watched Mirror, mirror yesterday so it was relatively fresh in my memory.

Alexa54

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Report this Nov. 12 2009, 6:38 pm

Thanks so much for this guys really appreciate it!! Thought I should let you know why I am after it really.... Doing a presentation about predicting weather systems and how research for the future is based on the past so thought it would be cool to have this in as well!!

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 12:34 am

Boy, this is some brains trust working on this question...if trekbuff, Starbase and Bax can't hit it on the head, I doubt I can. But I too am having feeling that I can see him saying, but I can't place my finger on it.

Hmmm...I wonder if Alexa54 might have any other clues as to other scenes or characters or something that would help us Identify the episode?

Alexa54

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 6:20 am

I'm afraid I dont know anything else, it was actually my lecturer who suggested this too me and he can't remember himself! It is really starting to annoy me now as well!

Holberg

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 10:12 am

Was it in the new movie??
At the end when Spock {Older talks to his younger self} ??

Vice_Adm_Baxter

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 10:18 am

LOL and the mystery continues.... :O

Cynic321

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 11:45 am

It sounds like something from 'Patterns of Force' with Kirk, Spock, and John Gill...

Narada

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 3:35 pm

Yes all I could find was the quote from John Gill when he repeats the famous quote something like "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it."

WilburWood

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 8:39 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Nov. 12 2009, 9:18 am)
Hey, folks! Anyone else try to help Alexa54? I thought about a few ST(TOS) episodes, but it didn't pan out.

I also did searches for various combinations of Trek, Spock, future, past, history, understand, quotes, etc. and only found a comment from someone else talking about Spock, no direct quote.

Sorry, Alexa54....

Where's WilburWood when I need him?????

Sorry, tb, but it beats the shit outta me, too! :laugh:

Alexa54

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Report this Nov. 13 2009, 8:48 pm

oh well i must have been imagining it!! thanks for you help tho guys, really appreciate the time you put in trying to help :D

Nyackjohn

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Report this Nov. 14 2009, 10:45 pm

Try looking at ST:VI Undiscovered Country - doesn't Spock say something similar to Valeris?

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Nov. 15 2009, 12:37 am

Quote (Nyackjohn @ Nov. 15 2009, 12:45 pm)
Try looking at ST:VI Undiscovered Country - doesn't Spock say something similar to Valeris?

I've just checked right through TUC and I can't find anything approaching this type of quote.

I think we maybe stumped; if trekbuff, Starbase, Wilbur and NyackJohn can't identify it, I don't think it exists.

Mirrorgirl

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Report this Nov. 15 2009, 1:50 am

Quote (trekbuff @ Nov. 15 2009, 3:15 pm)
Quote (Mirrorgirl @ Nov. 15 2009, 12:37 am)
Quote (Nyackjohn @ Nov. 15 2009, 12:45 pm)
Try looking at ST:VI Undiscovered Country - doesn't Spock say something similar to Valeris?

I've just checked right through TUC and I can't find anything approaching this type of quote.

I think we maybe stumped; if trekbuff, Starbase, Wilbur and NyackJohn can't identify it, I don't think it exists.

Apologies to everyone else, but Wilbur has a knack for this kind of trivia. If he's stumped, I don't feel so bad.

Again, we know (?) we've heard something like what Alexa54 requested. One of us will wake up at 3 in the morning and it will come to us. We had better write it down...

:)

Entirely possible. I do hope we can find it  :)

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