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Are you a Trekkie?

SpotTheCat90

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 4:27 pm

Thanks again, everybody for contributing; it's helping me a lot!

@OtakuJo, by "traditions" I mean things you do regularly involving Star Trek. The actual section title in my paper is norms, so I was trying to get at some of the norms of Trek culture without making you write my assignment :D

It will probably help if I share a little bit about the project. My professor wants every paper to cover norms, customs, language, beliefs, and stratification of the group. But it's not supposed to be just "this is , they do ." What she said was that she wants to know enough about the culture or subculture after reading the paper that she could fit in with the group without any other preparation.

That brings me to another couple of questions that occurred to me as I read the replies:

7. Mirrorgirl mentioned the Kirk/Spock community, and it got me wondering: are there a lot of separate classifications of Trekkies, like Niners? Do Kirk fans have names for themselves as opposed to Picard fans, for instance?

8. Also, several of you briefly mentioned that there is a lot of slang used by Trekkies. Could you share some? I know that abbreviations for the television series like TOS and TNG are important, but beyond that I am ignorant.

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 4:55 pm

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
Hello!

For my sociology class this semester, I'm required to write a paper about a culture or subculture. I decided to write about Trekkies. I need interviews as sources, so if anybody wants to briefly answer any of these questions, I'd be grateful!

1. First of all, do you consider yourself a Trekkie?

2. What does that mean to you; that is, what does it take to be considered a Trekkie?

3A. What's the difference between Trekkie and Trekker?

3B. Do you have certain traditions, like attending conventions regularly or collecting Star Trek memorabilia?

4. Do you speak Klingon? :p Aside from Trekkie/Trekker, are there any important "language" elements or special terms used by Trekkies?

5. If you're willing to share, what are your religious/philisophical beliefs and how do you think they relate to Star Trek, if at all? (Personally, I wouldn't consider this vital to the paper, but my professor wants a section covering this. . .)

6. Which Star Trek opening theme is your favorite? (Mine's Voyager's)

I'm terrible at this; I can't think of anything else. If there's something important I missed or you want to share, please go ahead.

Thanks!

1. Yes.

2. You are a fan of the Star Trek television and film franchises. To the point of knowing character names, bits of trivia, and generally enjoying sci-fi.

3. Trekkies enjoy the shows, but do not act further than watching. Trekkers create fan fiction, own memorabilia, or attends conventions.

4. Not fluently. But I'm in seminary and am therefore being forced to learn greek and Hebrew so Klingon must wait. If by slang I know there are several catchphrases all Trekkies know, "Beam me up Scotty" "I'm a doctor" and what not.

5. I'm a Christian. As a christian i think it would be great if a society like the on in Trek existed (lack of greed, mankind putting aside differences and working for greater good of all)

6. Voyager.

lostshaker

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 5:03 pm

Hi SpotThe Cat90,

There are sayings that have developed from Star Trek and gained prominence like... "Energize", "Beam me up, Scotty" (though there are variations in the show and movies this specific version was never actually used), "Make it so", "Fascinating", "Resistance is futile", and "Engage". Technical terminology abounds... like a Heisenberg Compensator. "Fizzbin" is a classic term that everyone should now - this might actually be a suitable test - but the word can be easily searched. "3 Dimensional Chess" is a game that actually developed out of Star Trek with real rules. I own a 3D Chess Board Set.

As far as I know the only classifications for Trek fans are Trekkies, Trekkers, and Niners. Niners is actually a new one to me though. When I speak in short hand about Star Trek I just refer to an episode or episodes by title and assume others have an immediate grasp.

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 5:05 pm

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and I know that I speak for many other trekkies when I say, it?s a feeling ? a warm feeling inside, around the heart, the throat and the third eye, that fills you with love and admiration for what Star Trek does and what it gives and what it?s trying to say.  We know it?s only a television show, but there?s a lot more to it than first meets the eye.

Awesome!! I was waiting for you to find this post, MG, and read your response.

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 5:39 pm

SpotTheCat90,

"Qapla' " pronounced "k-plaw" is a Klingon term meaning "success". This is probably the best slang word out there.

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 11:40 pm

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 07 2009, 6:30 pm)
Hello!

For my sociology class this semester, I'm required to write a paper about a culture or subculture. I decided to write about Trekkies. I need interviews as sources, so if anybody wants to briefly answer any of these questions, I'd be grateful!

1. First of all, do you consider yourself a Trekkie?

2. What does that mean to you; that is, what does it take to be considered a Trekkie?

3A. What's the difference between Trekkie and Trekker?

3B. Do you have certain traditions, like attending conventions regularly or collecting Star Trek memorabilia?

4. Do you speak Klingon? :p Aside from Trekkie/Trekker, are there any important "language" elements or special terms used by Trekkies?

5. If you're willing to share, what are your religious/philisophical beliefs and how do you think they relate to Star Trek, if at all? (Personally, I wouldn't consider this vital to the paper, but my professor wants a section covering this. . .)

6. Which Star Trek opening theme is your favorite? (Mine's Voyager's)

I'm terrible at this; I can't think of anything else. If there's something important I missed or you want to share, please go ahead.

Thanks!

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2. What does that mean to you; that is, what does it take to be considered a Trekkie?


To be a fan of a hopeful, optimistic vision of humanity's future...and to be a geek at heart. Not to say you can't be a jock and be a trekkie-but that combo is out at the edge of the bell curve.

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3B. Do you have certain traditions, like attending conventions regularly or collecting Star Trek memorabilia?


I'll pick up mags, toys, xmas tree ornaments, etc..., as time and money permit.

:p Aside from Trekkie/Trekker, are there any important "language" elements or special terms used by Trekkies?


"Live long and prosper" , "I have been and ever shall be, your friend" , "Beam me up, Scotty" (a misquote but it's entered the public consciousness) , I.D.I.C. (Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations)



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6. Which Star Trek opening theme is your favorite? (Mine's Voyager's)

T.O.S. (The Original Series)

Good luck on your paper & welcome to the boards.

:)

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Report this Nov. 11 2009, 6:54 am

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 07 2009, 1:30 am)
Hello!

For my sociology class this semester, I'm required to write a paper about a culture or subculture. I decided to write about Trekkies...

I would be very interested to read your paper once it's finished if you were able/willing to share it :)

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Report this Nov. 11 2009, 11:51 pm

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Report this Nov. 16 2009, 11:21 am

I am a trekkie

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 8:29 am

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 10 2009, 4:27 pm)

@OtakuJo, by "traditions" I mean things you do regularly involving Star Trek.

Coolness. Regularly... ok.
* Watch the DVDs of course.
* Come on sites like this one and some others.
* Listen to ipod and audiobooks etc, and read a lot.
* Also write my own stories on occasion, which is fanfiction. And draw pictures and stuff like that.

As far as contact with the community goes, for me (so far) that's mostly through internet forums and other sites, and also through sharing fiction.

But that's just me. Personally, apart from the internet, I'm pretty well isolated from other fans. But I know that others would have very different answers.

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 10 2009, 4:27 pm)

It will probably help if I share a little bit about the project. My professor wants every paper to cover norms, customs, language, beliefs, and stratification of the group.

What she said was that she wants to know enough about the culture or subculture after reading the paper that she could fit in with the group without any other preparation.

Well I suppose one of the best things about fitting in to a group like this without preparation is that it is pretty easy to do. Trekkies are generally quite an accepting bunch -- possibly with the exception of the occasional DS9 vs Voyager vs Enterprise row, or character brawl which can get pretty worked up on occasion.

Infinite Diversity in Infinite Combinations is an appealing concept and one which I think many Trekkies do tend to embrace -- Sometimes sci-fi and fantasy fans are more ready to take on these ideals than the general population, I find. Especially when it comes to accepting difference in society.

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 10 2009, 4:27 pm)

8. Also, several of you briefly mentioned that there is a lot of slang used by Trekkies. Could you share some? I know that abbreviations for the television series like TOS and TNG are important, but beyond that I am ignorant.

Okay, here's one that is used quite often:

Technobabble or Treknobabble: An often lengthy technical solution or speech from one or more characters.
As an example (and this is possibly not a direct quote I'm pretty well pulling this out of my arse.)
[I]"If we transfer auxiliary power to the primary intercooler matrix then use the deflector array to generate a focused graviton beam into the centre of this subspace rupture..."

Some people love the tech. Some people hate it.

Q'apla was a good one that someone mentioned too. This being also a Klingon word (with Klingons as a species present in some capacity through pretty much all of Trek and Trek fandom) that many would understand.

Might I suggest that several of your questions may have been (inadvertently) better answered elsewhere around this place etc and particularly in more depth in some of the series forums -- than they could be / have been answered here. Your best bet might be to keep checking out some other places.

An additional thought: I think that another aspect of Trek's appeal is also from the sheer immensity of the universe itself (Well, certainly for me as a reader, writer, and lover of fiction) especially given the number of DAYS it would take to watch every episode non-stop as well as all the movies. And I think the pure attraction of a "secondary universe", if you will -- imaginary of course and yet so real -- is not to be underestimated when considering the coming together of groups such as this one.

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 3:31 pm

Quote (SpotTheCat90 @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:30 pm)
Hello!

For my sociology class this semester, I'm required to write a paper about a culture or subculture. I decided to write about Trekkies. I need interviews as sources, so if anybody wants to briefly answer any of these questions, I'd be grateful!

1. First of all, do you consider yourself a Trekkie?

2. What does that mean to you; that is, what does it take to be considered a Trekkie?

3A. What's the difference between Trekkie and Trekker?

3B. Do you have certain traditions, like attending conventions regularly or collecting Star Trek memorabilia?

4. Do you speak Klingon? :p Aside from Trekkie/Trekker, are there any important "language" elements or special terms used by Trekkies?

5. If you're willing to share, what are your religious/philisophical beliefs and how do you think they relate to Star Trek, if at all? (Personally, I wouldn't consider this vital to the paper, but my professor wants a section covering this. . .)

6. Which Star Trek opening theme is your favorite? (Mine's Voyager's)

I'm terrible at this; I can't think of anything else. If there's something important I missed or you want to share, please go ahead.

Thanks!

Interesting!

I did a paper for Sociology on Star Trek fans as well. There's nothing better than being able to write a paper and mix in a topic that you love at the same time.

Let's see if I can answer some of these questions:

1. Strangely, I DON'T consider myself a Trekkie. I'm not sure I know the meaning of the word, and that's probably why. If someone asks, I usually say "I'm a HUGE Star Trek fan" but I don't say "I'm a Trekkie." Not sure why...but that's the way it is.

2. I'm not sure. I'd say to be a "Trekkie" is simply to be passionate about Star Trek. I'm sure there's a more perscriptive definition in someone's mind...but I'm not aware of it. I think "Trekkie" is a state of mind, most likely!

3A. I've often wondered that myself. I have no idea.

3B. I collect tons of stuff. Mostly I collect non-fiction books (making of, tech manuals, etc), toys, and props. We had started a tradition of going to Vegas to see the "Star Trek Experience" annually, but I only got 2 years in before they closed it. I have a tradition of seeing every new Trek film (since TFF) on opening day in the theater.

4. I do not speak Klingon. I might say "make it so" every once in a while in my daily conversations.

5. I don't see how my religious beliefs would connect with Star Trek. I guess I could say that my faith values tolerance, and Star Trek also preaches tolerance.

6. Favorite opening theme: Star Trek-The Motion Picture (also used for Star Trek- The Next Generation, but the TMP version is by far the best)

OtakuJo

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Report this Nov. 17 2009, 11:08 pm

Quote (trekbuff @ Nov. 17 2009, 11:09 am)
Slight personal distinction with the two terms...

Technobabble at least has some foundation in real science. To some folks, going to get their computer repaired is met with technobabble spoken by the computer technician. Even getting one's car worked on can generate comments by the mechanic which sounds like blah, blah, blah to the car's owner.

Cheers. ^_^

That's generally my impression on those who don't like tech in Trek. (that rhymes) I would say "well these people are in high tech jobs and they're in the military." Its like if someone from Shakespeare's day suddenly found himself / herself in the middle of a modern day submarine crew, or a meeting of Microsoft programmers!

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Report this Jul. 15 2010, 5:15 am

1. First of all, do you consider yourself a Trekkie?
Yes I do


2. What does that mean to you; that is, what does it take to be considered a Trekkie?
All that it takes is to be a fan of Star Trek


3A. What's the difference between Trekkie and Trekker?
Trekkers are stuck up. They are embarassed to be called Trekkies



3B. Do you have certain traditions, like attending conventions regularly or collecting Star Trek memorabilia?
Yes, I attend conventions with my significant other and we collect memorabilia and autographs

4. Do you speak Klingon? :p Aside from Trekkie/Trekker, are there any important "language" elements or special terms used by Trekkies?
No I do not speak Klingon


5. If you're willing to share, what are your religious/philisophical beliefs and how do you think they relate to Star Trek, if at all? (Personally, I wouldn't consider this vital to the paper, but my professor wants a section covering this. . .)
I have no religious beliefs


6. Which Star Trek opening theme is your favorite? (Mine's Voyager's)
Mine is Voyager also

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Report this Jul. 15 2010, 5:46 am

Trekkies are Women


 


Trekkers are Men

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