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Would Doing A New Romulan War

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 7:52 pm

They could have Kirk and the Enterprise fighting the Romulans in a 23rd Century RW.

Narada

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 8:05 pm

I like this idea but maybe for a 3rd or 4th movie? They can foreshadow with this one because maybe the Romulans will react to what happens with Nero. They can talk of the past Romulan War and maybe it will create another conflict? I wonder if we will ever hear of the Romulan War in this time line.

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 8:38 pm

Would the news of the future disaster make the Romulans more cooperative or more aggressive? I would lean toward the later, so an eventual Romulan War sounds logical.

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 9:58 pm

Nope.

No wars. No Khan. No fanwank that nobody cares about except hardcore fans. Let's have another adventure story that celebrates the spirit of Star Trek.

Wars in outerspace have been done TO DEATH. I don't think Star Trek needs to go where many have gone before (Star Wars, Babalyon 5, Space Above and Beyond, Starship Troopers, Battlestar Galactica, Deep Space Nine, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)

grigori

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Report this Nov. 06 2009, 11:12 pm

and THE Romulan War took place a couple generations earlier, certainly before time was splintered off in the last movie

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 2:23 am

Not that I want to see a new Romulan war for STXII, but I can see it happening. The Romulans learn that Nero and crew were Romulans from the future and the Federation had no right to persue and kill them without first making every effort to contact the Romulan people. Regardless of what timeline they are from, past or future, Romulans are still Romulans and need protecting by the homeworld. That's how a new war would start.

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 3:56 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 2:32 am)
Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 06 2009, 9:58 pm)
Nope.

No wars. No Khan. No fanwank that nobody cares about except hardcore fans. Let's have another adventure story that celebrates the spirit of Star Trek.

Wars in outerspace have been done TO DEATH. I don't think Star Trek needs to go where many have gone before (Star Wars, Babalyon 5, Space Above and Beyond, Starship Troopers, Battlestar Galactica, Deep Space Nine, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)

That's right, lets celebrate the spirit of Star Trek...

Crew members with silly accents, c0cktail dress uniforms and lots of sex!

:eyesroll:

Ironically you are speaking of Star Trek since the beginning with that description.

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 4:41 am

Quote (TrekFan1701E @ Nov. 07 2009, 4:52 am)
They could have Kirk and the Enterprise fighting the Romulans in a 23rd Century RW.

I would rather see two different adventures and then possible the original Romulan Wars movies made, like they were planned for XI way back in 2005.

Vger23

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 9:46 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 2:32 am)
Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 06 2009, 9:58 pm)
Nope.

No wars. No Khan. No fanwank that nobody cares about except hardcore fans. Let's have another adventure story that celebrates the spirit of Star Trek.

Wars in outerspace have been done TO DEATH. I don't think Star Trek needs to go where many have gone before (Star Wars, Babalyon 5, Space Above and Beyond, Starship Troopers, Battlestar Galactica, Deep Space Nine, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)

That's right, lets celebrate the spirit of Star Trek...

Crew members with silly accents, c0cktail dress uniforms and lots of sex!

:eyesroll:

TOS had all those elements in abundance, and is considered arguably the greatest television show of all-time.

"Have a toffee"

TrekFan1701E

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 9:57 am

Quote (grigori @ Nov. 06 2009, 11:12 pm)
and THE Romulan War took place a couple generations earlier, certainly before time was splintered off in the last movie

In my post I did say a new RW in the 23rd Century not the old one in the 22nd.

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 8:48 pm

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:52 pm)
What about a story that talks about who we are and where we're going, that for me is the "spirit" of Trek.

Not some lame story about "destiny".

You may as well said "I like colors that are a combination of yellow and green, not some lame blue."

And yet you managed to bump into another wall kid.

WkdYngMan

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 8:50 pm

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:52 pm)
BTW, quoting my own comment back at me, now that's childish.

Actually, the fact that you think your repeated use of "have a toffee" is even remotely "clever" is plain dumb.

WkdYngMan

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Report this Nov. 07 2009, 9:29 pm

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 8:53 pm)
Wow, you are completely pathetic.

Nope, but thanks for trying.
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Can you do me a small favour, tell me about one post you've made here at ST.com that isn't about this film?

Yes.

Vger23

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Report this Nov. 08 2009, 11:12 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:52 pm)
Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 07 2009, 9:46 am)
Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 2:32 am)
Quote (Vger23 @ Nov. 06 2009, 9:58 pm)
Nope.

No wars. No Khan. No fanwank that nobody cares about except hardcore fans. Let's have another adventure story that celebrates the spirit of Star Trek.

Wars in outerspace have been done TO DEATH. I don't think Star Trek needs to go where many have gone before (Star Wars, Babalyon 5, Space Above and Beyond, Starship Troopers, Battlestar Galactica, Deep Space Nine, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.)

That's right, lets celebrate the spirit of Star Trek...

Crew members with silly accents, c0cktail dress uniforms and lots of sex!

:eyesroll:

TOS had all those elements in abundance, and is considered arguably the greatest television show of all-time.

"Have a toffee"

And this is what you think the "spirit" of Trek is?

What about a story that talks about who we are and where we're going, that for me is the "spirit" of Trek.

Not some lame story about "destiny".

BTW, quoting my own comment back at me, now that's childish.

But, I guess you can't think of anything of your own to say.

The "spirit" of Star Trek is, to me, about the inherent strength that exists within humanity. It is about our ability to overcome the odds and ourselves to still achieve great things. It is about our ability to overcome our weaknesses and ingrained flaws to still become better than the sum of our parts. It is about how our differences are a great strength, and not the weakness many people see it as.

The new Star Trek movie did a great job of reflecting these points. Kirk is, in this instance, a personal representation of humanity's journey. We meet someone who is troubled, arrogant, and under-achieving, and we see how that person is able to channel their great potential by growing and accepting differences. We see a team of very different people (the crew of the Enterprise) come together, despite their personal misgivings about each other, and solve a huge crisis. In essence, we see humanity through the alegory of the Enterprise Crew, which is always what Gene intended.

I'd say, of ALL the preceeding Star Trek movies, this is the one that BEST represents what I have always felt is the "core spirit" of Star Trek for the reasons I've stated above. That doesn't mean it is the best movie...it simply means that it does the best job of taking what I personally believe is the core spirit of Star Trek and channeling that through these great characters.

It's probably the primary reason I put this in my top 3 Trek movies. I don't care about timetravel, black holes, the size of the ships, the lights on the bridge, Uhura's uniform, or Checkov's age. All that stuff, TO ME, is shallow and superficial compared to the HUMAN story and the characters.

Toffee, anyone?

Narada

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Report this Nov. 10 2009, 1:48 am

Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 10 2009, 1:43 am)
Quote (WkdYngMan @ Nov. 07 2009, 8:48 pm)
Quote (ZeroArmour @ Nov. 07 2009, 7:52 pm)
What about a story that talks about who we are and where we're going, that for me is the "spirit" of Trek.

Not some lame story about "destiny".

You may as well said "I like colors that are a combination of yellow and green, not some lame blue."

And yet you managed to bump into another wall kid.

Your metaphor doesn't work.

Try another.

No this was very applicable but he made a simple error. He means to say "I like colors that are a combination of yellow and blue, not some lame green." I did not see these posts until now they are funny! It is applicable because "who we are and where we are going" is defined as "destiny."

:cool: ?:cool:

destiny
?noun, plural -nies.
1. something that is to happen or has happened to a particular person or thing; lot or fortune.
2. the predetermined, usually inevitable or irresistible, course of events.
3. the power or agency that determines the course of events.
4. (initial capital letter) this power personified or represented as a goddess.
5. the Destinies, the Fates.

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