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MrsStarbuck

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm

Nice opening with Janeway enjoying a bit of a holo-adventure. It's good to see that the Captain finds time to let her hair down on the holodeck as much as the rest of the crew.

So, onto the episode. And *sigh* once again, poor, poor Chakotay. He finally gets to be a hero and save the ship...except it's just his spirit and his body is in a coma. Beltran must have loved this one! :laugh:

I liked the story though. It reminded me a lot of The Thing (which is one of my favourite films ever), the way the paranoia grew, and nobody trusted anyone else. I knew it was Tuvok though! Right from when the Doctor described Kes's injuries as damaging nerves in the neck, then in the next scene with Janeway, when she was talking about giving the authorisation codes to the crew, there was just something about the way he was acting that seemed 'off'. I actually found myself shouting at the TV "don't give the codes to Tuvok!" ha ha.

This was another nice episode for the Doctor. It was great to see how much Janeway has grown to trust him, when she was prepared to give him the authorisation codes without a second thought. I loved his little speech when asked how he'd managed to get Chakotay's consciousness back into his body...how he'd write a paper if there was anywhere relevant to post it :laugh:

And I guess it was a good episode for Chakotay too. It showed his loyalty to the ship and the crew, that he would try anything to save them. I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)
But I guess overall, it shows how mentally disciplined Chakotay is, that he could manage to direct his 'spirit' round the ship to help everyone.

Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 7:21 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
Nice opening with Janeway enjoying a bit of a holo-adventure. It's good to see that the Captain finds time to let her hair down on the holodeck as much as the rest of the crew.

So, onto the episode. And *sigh* once again, poor, poor Chakotay. He finally gets to be a hero and save the ship...except it's just his spirit and his body is in a coma. Beltran must have loved this one! :laugh:

I liked the story though. It reminded me a lot of The Thing (which is one of my favourite films ever), the way the paranoia grew, and nobody trusted anyone else. I knew it was Tuvok though! Right from when the Doctor described Kes's injuries as damaging nerves in the neck, then in the next scene with Janeway, when she was talking about giving the authorisation codes to the crew, there was just something about the way he was acting that seemed 'off'. I actually found myself shouting at the TV "don't give the codes to Tuvok!" ha ha.

This was another nice episode for the Doctor. It was great to see how much Janeway has grown to trust him, when she was prepared to give him the authorisation codes without a second thought. I loved his little speech when asked how he'd managed to get Chakotay's consciousness back into his body...how he'd write a paper if there was anywhere relevant to post it :laugh:

And I guess it was a good episode for Chakotay too. It showed his loyalty to the ship and the crew, that he would try anything to save them. I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)
But I guess overall, it shows how mentally disciplined Chakotay is, that he could manage to direct his 'spirit' round the ship to help everyone.

Nice review.

Your really gotten the ep.

She was just fallowing the doc's point.

Yep.  The Vulcan nerve pinch is a dead give away.

Its not only vulcans in there century that know how to perform them I believe.

And there are some medical disorders it could be.

The Doc performed his Second muraculous medical cure in this ep.

Using Voyagers computer memory.  I doubt Bev or Bones could have come up with that one.

The medical finds and situations are endless for Voyager.  More than TNG and OS.

He HE.

Sounds like your getting settled with charachters though.

It was Chalkotay though.

A body is only a tool. and Chalkotay learned to get around without it.

What makes you?

Its not your face.  Your body.  Its you.  The essence.  I know it sounds like folklore.

But its logical.

You leave your body behind on your way to Heaven.

Are you invisible?  Probably not.  What will you look like?

I am not sure.

I suppose you might get your body replaced possibly...My knolledge suggests you get healed or made whole again.  How?  I don't know.

But one thing is for sure...Imortallity.

Angels with wings?

Not likely.  More like Demons pretending with wings.

Sorry I got off in religion.  But this ones pretty close to religion.

Its my belief.  You decide to take on it or not.

I'm sorry I got off on a serman.

Later.

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 7:34 pm

Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Nov. 01 2009, 1:21 am)
It was Chalkotay though.

A body is only a tool. and Chalkotay learned to get around without it.

Oh, I get that. That's why I eventually said that it was a good episode for the character of Chakotay.

I guess I was just thinking of Beltran.

"Hey, this is a Chakotay-centric episode. Great!"

*opens script...starts to flip through...gets to last page*

"Oh. So I'm asleep the whole time and don't speak until the last two minutes. Doh! "

:laugh:

Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 7:55 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:34 pm)
Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Nov. 01 2009, 1:21 am)
It was Chalkotay though.

A body is only a tool. and Chalkotay learned to get around without it.

Oh, I get that. That's why I eventually said that it was a good episode for the character of Chakotay.

I guess I was just thinking of Beltran.

"Hey, this is a Chakotay-centric episode. Great!"

*opens script...starts to flip through...gets to last page*

"Oh. So I'm asleep the whole time and don't speak until the last two minutes. Doh! "

:laugh:

He wasn't asleep.

He wasn't in his body.

LOL.

He was moving without it.

g2g.  later.

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 8:56 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:34 pm)
Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Nov. 01 2009, 1:21 am)
It was Chalkotay though.

A body is only a tool. and Chalkotay learned to get around without it.

Oh, I get that. That's why I eventually said that it was a good episode for the character of Chakotay.

I guess I was just thinking of Beltran.

"Hey, this is a Chakotay-centric episode. Great!"

*opens script...starts to flip through...gets to last page*

"Oh. So I'm asleep the whole time and don't speak until the last two minutes. Doh! "

:laugh:

some on this board said this episode was his best performance of the entire series. ;)

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 9:15 pm

Quote (brcarthey @ Nov. 01 2009, 5:56 pm)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:34 pm)
Quote (Captan_jean_luc_picard_1A @ Nov. 01 2009, 1:21 am)
It was Chalkotay though.

A body is only a tool. and Chalkotay learned to get around without it.

Oh, I get that. That's why I eventually said that it was a good episode for the character of Chakotay.

I guess I was just thinking of Beltran.

"Hey, this is a Chakotay-centric episode. Great!"

*opens script...starts to flip through...gets to last page*

"Oh. So I'm asleep the whole time and don't speak until the last two minutes. Doh! "

:laugh:

some on this board said this episode was his best performance of the entire series. ;)

:eyesroll:  :eyesroll:

brcarthey

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Report this Nov. 01 2009, 10:06 pm

^i'm just having fun. there are plenty here who know i've defended beltran in the past and given him the benefit of the doubt.

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 6:29 am

Quote (brcarthey @ Nov. 01 2009, 4:06 am)
^i'm just having fun. there are plenty here who know i've defended beltran in the past and given him the benefit of the doubt.

ha ha...I'm a Voyager noob and already I'm ragging on poor Beltran! :laugh:

But it is just in fun, I have a lot of respect for him, I think he's got a great sense of humour and he's great to look at :p

Just sometimes the way the episodes have been written leave you no choice but to take the p*ss out of poor Chuckles! :laugh:

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 1:00 pm

Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

MrsStarbuck

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 1:16 pm

:laugh:

Somehow, I thought you'd say that ;)

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 2:15 pm

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Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

the only medicine wheels that i'm aware of are the four mounted on an ambulance....buh dum bum!!!  thank you, thank you *takes a bow*  ;)

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 2:30 pm

Quote (brcarthey @ Nov. 02 2009, 2:15 pm)
Quote (teya1020 @ Nov. 02 2009, 1:00 pm)
Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

the only medicine wheels that i'm aware of are the four mounted on an ambulance....buh dum bum!!! ¿thank you, thank you *takes a bow* ¿;)

:laugh:


Of course, one wonders why a tribe of people from the Western Hemisphere would have a "Valley of the Antelope Women" in their religious iconography, when antelope aren't indigenous to the Western hemisphere....

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 3:21 pm

Quote (teya1020 @ Nov. 02 2009, 2:30 pm)
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Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

the only medicine wheels that i'm aware of are the four mounted on an ambulance....buh dum bum!!! ?thank you, thank you *takes a bow* ?;)

:laugh:


Of course, one wonders why a tribe of people from the Western Hemisphere would have a "Valley of the Antelope Women" in their religious iconography, when antelope aren't indigenous to the Western hemisphere....

You caught that too, huh?  :laugh:

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 3:24 pm

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I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

the only medicine wheels that i'm aware of are the four mounted on an ambulance....buh dum bum!!! ?thank you, thank you *takes a bow* ?;)

:laugh:


Of course, one wonders why a tribe of people from the Western Hemisphere would have a "Valley of the Antelope Women" in their religious iconography, when antelope aren't indigenous to the Western hemisphere....

You caught that too, huh? ¿:laugh:

Eh, Africa, North America--what's the difference?

:laugh:

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Report this Nov. 02 2009, 3:30 pm

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Quote (exodus201 @ Nov. 02 2009, 3:21 pm)
Quote (teya1020 @ Nov. 02 2009, 2:30 pm)
Quote (brcarthey @ Nov. 02 2009, 2:15 pm)
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Quote (MrsStarbuck @ Nov. 01 2009, 7:02 pm)
I won't comment on the medicine wheel, I'm sure Teya will have something to say about that ;)

Pure Tribe Hollywood.

the only medicine wheels that i'm aware of are the four mounted on an ambulance....buh dum bum!!! ?thank you, thank you *takes a bow* ?;)

:laugh:


Of course, one wonders why a tribe of people from the Western Hemisphere would have a "Valley of the Antelope Women" in their religious iconography, when antelope aren't indigenous to the Western hemisphere....

You caught that too, huh? ?:laugh:

Eh, Africa, North America--what's the difference?

:laugh:

The Bronx Zoo?


:laugh:

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