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teya1020

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Report this Nov. 03 2009, 4:00 pm

It's okay. ¿I understand perfectly.

Too bad vgrbabe isn't around anymore. She agreed with me.  :p

Elina

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Report this Nov. 03 2009, 4:44 pm

Quote (teya1020 @ Nov. 03 2009, 3:35 pm)
I can't overlook LaRouche.


If that makes me a terrible person, so be it. However I doubt you'd look too kindly on a Trek star getting up at a con and promoting a white supremacist who believes that Africans were the sole cause of slavery.

Well, Teya.
I can see and understand the problem with LaRouche.
I also dislike the organisation.
It`s one of the things I don`t like about Robert Beltran.
I know he`s working there with young people at acting classes. But why is he working there and not in other organisations?

But to give him justice- he doesn`t promote the organisation at cons.

I`ve read many interviews, articles with him and, you know, I`ve heard him speaking personelly and all I can say is- I`ve never heard HIM personelly (not LaRouche) speaking bad about the Jewish people and  blaming the Holocaust on the Jews.
But on the other side I personelly have heard him speaking (at Fedcon) about the Africans and how importend it is to help them. And I`ve heard him saying how importend it is for us to help to stop the injustice against the Africans.

Are you sure that he really promoted a white supremacist who believes that Africans were the sole cause of slavery?
It does not suit to the Robert Beltran I "know".

teya1020

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Report this Nov. 03 2009, 4:59 pm

Quote (Elina @ Nov. 03 2009, 4:44 pm)
Quote (teya1020 @ Nov. 03 2009, 3:35 pm)
I can't overlook LaRouche.


If that makes me a terrible person, so be it. However I doubt you'd look too kindly on a Trek star getting up at a con and promoting a white supremacist who believes that Africans were the sole cause of slavery.

Well, Teya.
I can see and understand the problem with LaRouche.
I also dislike the organisation.
It`s one of the things I don`t like about Robert Beltran.
I know he`s working there with young people at acting classes. But why is he working there and not in other organisations?

But to give him justice- he doesn`t promote the organisation at cons.

I`ve read many interviews, articles with him and, you know, I`ve heard him speaking personelly and all I can say is- I`ve never heard HIM personelly (not LaRouche) speaking bad about the Jewish people and ¿blaming the Holocaust on the Jews.
But on the other side I personelly have heard him speaking (at Fedcon) about the Africans and how importend it is to help them. And I`ve heard him saying how importend it is for us to help to stop the injustice against the Africans.

Are you sure that he really promoted a white supremacist who believes that Africans were the sole cause of slavery?
It does not suit to the Robert Beltran I "know".

I was using the white supremacist as an example, by asking another member how he'd feel *if* a Trek star promoted the works of a white supremacist.


I did not say that either Beltran or LaRouche are white supremacists.


As for what Beltran believes about the Jews...


Who knows?  He believes that life in East LA today is equivalent to life in Nazi Germany for Jews.  


It isn't, and that can lead to all sorts of conclusions.


My conclusion is that he was using hyperbole to make his case and, frankly, it made him look, well, not very bright.

Elina

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Report this Nov. 05 2009, 10:53 am

Thanks Teya. I missunderstood your post.
I was wondering, if Robert Beltran really said something bad about Jews. He didn`t.

teya1020

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Report this Nov. 05 2009, 11:10 am

Quote (Elina @ Nov. 05 2009, 10:53 am)
Thanks Teya. I missunderstood your post.
I was wondering, if Robert Beltran really said something bad about Jews. He didn`t.

No, he simply supports someone who's said Jews were responsible for the Holocaust.


What I think that proves is that he hasn't really thought out his political support.


And he's said that life in East LA today is as bad as life was for Jews in Nazi Germany.


Which is a patent falsehood, no matter how you spin it.

DRAGON_ROSE

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Report this Nov. 11 2009, 2:24 am

Quote (MirrorRobotVicFontaine @ Oct. 26 2009, 11:07 pm)
Has anyone noticed how much Robert Beltran looks like Bill Clinton? ¿Isn't this a great opportunity for him to do a Clinton one man show or something? ¿ And would the taking advantage of any possible groupies just be part of staying prepared for the role? ¿ He's probably played Clinton before... how could he not? ¿If not, well, do so right away Mr. Beltran. ¿ And let me write it, I'm full of ideas....

that's just insulting.  :grr:  :angry:  he doesn't look anything like him.

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Report this Nov. 24 2010, 1:34 am

If I close my eyes and imagine, then maybe.

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