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Oct. 30 2009, 11:10 am
Brent Spiner (Besides playing data and trying to act as close to being an andoid, he played a number of other characters too, like Lore, his creator, a bunch of holodeck cowboys, etc. etc.)
Patrick Stewart (Picard with so many different layers to his character)
Avery Brooks (Sisko, whom was done very well as a reluctant commander of a star base he didn't really want to have a part in, to a caring and loving father figure who also had to deal with the loss of his wife and his anger towards Picard, having to hold responsibilities for Bajor and the Wormhole, as well as a sorta-religious figure, and then dealing with the war with the changlings.)
Michael Dorn (As Worf, he played the "Perfect" klingon who followed his klingon Honor to a tee even when it was to his disadvantage, his relationship with Troi, Dax.... Dax again, from living on a Starship, to a Starbase, back to another Starship.)
The Doctor
Hell I could list them all really. It'd be more easier to list the actors who wern't so good.
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Oct. 30 2009, 4:48 pm
| Quote (Yanks @ Oct. 30 2009, 1:15 pm) | | I personally think the "perfect Klingon" was Martok. |
1,000 times YES. I am glad someone else noticed this. |
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Oct. 30 2009, 10:43 pm
| Quote (Yanks @ Oct. 25 2009, 12:18 pm) | | Quote (TheDriver @ Oct. 24 2009, 6:39 pm) | | Quote (Yanks @ Oct. 23 2009, 3:51 pm) | | Note: I don't hate any of these actors or characters, just commenting on their acting ability. |
I don't think it matters, bud.
Many of your choices - in both sections - are suspect. |
Details man, details...  |
I like Avery Brooks, just do. Levar Burton, I can agree. But also he played the nice guy very nicely. Everybody seems to hate Anthony Montgomery, well I like him, though his acting could have been better, it was kinda more rookie-ish then Harry. and done better, that and he's got a good manly body. everybody else, I agree, though Terry kind of struts the line. |
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Oct. 31 2009, 2:49 pm
Tim Russ- The most boring actor I have ever seen.
truer words were never spoken
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Oct. 31 2009, 8:16 pm
List best and worst by series along with a honorable mention (I admit it is hard to separate the characters from the actors, but I will try):
TOS
Best: Leonard Nemoy, produced one of the most iconic characters in TV history
Weakest: Nichelle Nichols, She was not bad and she was attractive, but I really was never floored by her performances
TNG (Have to admit I really do not watch TNG anymore)
Best ¿ Brent Spiner, he did a really good job with his character and he showed a lot of range playing other roles
Weakest: Denise Crosby, very weak in my opinion, in fact I list her as an uggh
DS9
Best: Colm Meaney, he came across a totally believable and his portrayal of the one of the few blue collar types in ST was great.
Weakest: Had a couple choices here by have to go with Avery Brooks, he has a great voice, but he just did not come across as believable to me.
Voyager
Best: Roxann Dawson: I think she was awesome, in my opinion she also played the most difficult character on the show
Weakest: Garret Wang, this choice was easy, he was by far a weakest performer
Enterprise
Best: Connor Trinner, he was another actor that successfully carried out the everyman type character and made it easy. It actually ticked me off how they treated him and his character in the final
Anthony Montgomery: He was like Wang, just sort of filling up space
My honorable mention has to be Jeffery Combs, this guys range is unbelievable and he did a great job playing totally different types of characters. It is actually amazing we do not hear more from him as an actor IMO.
Sure some will disagree with my choices, but that is how I see it.
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Oct. 31 2009, 11:42 pm
^ Agreed. What I saw of Chekov was pretty gut-wrenchingly awful.
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Nov. 01 2009, 11:14 am
OtakuJo, you're breaking my heart... From various threads, I gather you really don't much care for TOS. And yet you're a DS9 fan. In my humble opinion, DS9 is more of a spiritual successor to TOS than TNG. In fact, Behr, Wolfe, Moore, and Echevarria have all gone on record saying they were much bigger fans of TOS than TNG. And Behr? Downright hated TNG. And there are just SO many references to TOS on DS9. Take it from a fellow Niner... Get hold of those TOS DVDs, go in with the mindset that "all of this was before the thought of films and TNG," and enjoy. I guarantee you'll find the spirit of the show is what caused it to endure for so very long. And you'll more than likely find yourself disagreeing with earlier posts that included words such as "campy," "hammy," "cheesy," and "gut-wrenchingly awful."  |
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Nov. 01 2009, 8:23 pm
GREAT CALL ON MARTOK!!!
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Nov. 02 2009, 8:44 am
| Quote (TheDriver @ Nov. 01 2009, 11:14 am) | OtakuJo, you're breaking my heart...
From various threads, I gather you really don't much care for TOS. And yet you're a DS9 fan. |
Chigaimasu Translation: You are mistaken. Probably the closest I've come to a judgement call on Original Series as a whole, that I can think of, is to say that I haven't seen enough to make a judgement call on the Original Series as a whole -- and particularly on the first or final episodes, as I don't seem to recall having seen either. I don't dislike the original series at all. It happens to be my "least favourite" only because there are a finite number of series to choose from so something has to be at the bottom! I think I did mention that before on several least fave series polls, and that the only reason it happened to be my lesser favourite was not because I did not like but rather because I like the others better. All I said was that Mr.Koenig's acting at several moments, as Chekov, was pretty bad. Perhaps not all the time -- but there are those moments, sure. Case in point: "But you heard what he called the captain." *micro-cringe* But the Tribbles episode generally... Awesome. Luvvit. Don't recall using the words hammy and cheesy but anyway I kind of like ham and cheese sometimes -- especially on toasted sandwiches. Personally I would look at those as reasons to watch rather than reasons to stay away. I may have expressed a view that there is a potential for Roddenberry's vision of an "evolved humanity" to be problematic -- and I think that Deep Space Nine especially explores the inherent problems with this view quite well. That is something I like. So perhaps if there was earlier confuzzlement, this might hopefully have cleared it up somewhat. "Spock's Brain" is on my To Watch list when I get a chance. One of these days. |
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Nov. 02 2009, 9:04 am
Best Trek series actors (regular and recurring) imo:
TOS - Walter Koenig, Leonard Nimoy
TNG - Patrick Stewart, Wil Wheaton, Brent Spiner, John de Lancie
DS9 - Nana Visitor
VOY - Kate Mulgrew, Robert Picardo, Ethan Phillips
ENT - Connor Trineer, Jolene Blalock, Scott Bakula, Jeffrey Combs
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Nov. 02 2009, 2:08 pm
Everyone seems to be calling Garret Wang a bad actor, but I disagree.
If you read or listen to interviews with him, he comes off as extremely dynamic (and even does impressions of other famous characters, Trek or not), and he usually complains that B & B just never offered him any chances for real acting (and even restricted him when he tried to do something exciting with what they did give him).
"Come on guys, throw me a bone here!" he would say, and Berman or Braga would respond: "We have Neelix and the Doctor for humor, we have Janeway, Seven, and the Doctor for drama, we just don't need Harry Kim for anything else."
That's why Harry Kim was so wooden. It was a decision made by the producers and writers.
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Nov. 02 2009, 5:39 pm
I agree that Kim was written poorly. They made him a lead character but gave him very little distinguishing characteristics - he played music and was bad with women; that's all I can remember as harry-isms...
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Nov. 02 2009, 7:00 pm
| Quote (Yanks @ Oct. 31 2009, 11:25 pm) | The only one I have any issue with is Nichelle Nichols. I don't think she's the worst on TOS. I think I'd put Chekov there with that horrible accent  |
Ok I admit you are correct, I did not think of Chekov on my first go. I stand humbly corrected!  |
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Nov. 03 2009, 12:41 am
| Quote (L0kI @ Nov. 02 2009, 5:39 pm) | | I agree that Kim was written poorly. ¿They made him a lead character but gave him very little distinguishing characteristics - he played music and was bad with women; that's all I can remember as harry-isms... |
He was greener than an Orion slave girl. That was pretty much it. He was the rookie guy. I guess they kind of tried to put together the similar "buddy" relationship between Kim and Paris as they had with O'Brien and Bashir -- but it never seemed to work as well. I never pegged Garret Wang as a bad actor in any way. Oh god that makes it sound like I'm completely ragging on Kim, huh? I'm not. I don't dislike him as a character -- just, it's like people say. He doesn't really stand out for any reason. |
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Nov. 03 2009, 12:03 pm
I am not sure how to judge VOY actors as they had such garbage material and they seem to try and re-write each character on a year-to-year basis to make them attractive. I like Robert Beltran but he probably suffered more than anyone because of poor writing. I think the actors on VOY made the most of a bad situation.
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