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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 6:31 pm

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^i just read an interview where duchovny said he is interested in doing a 3rd x-files movie especially if it's one that deals with some of the earlier ufo themes of the early seasons.

I'd actually like to see something with William, the super soldiers, and the date that Mulder saw in The Truth...a final, epic, battle with the aliens

Fringe is doing something similar to that right now, and it is fast establishing itself as a true successor to the X-Files, another reason why Mulder and Scully should hang up their badges.

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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 6:53 pm

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Is this the episode where Janeway couldn't replicate a cup of coffee because the ship was low on power and then she goes to fire up the holodeck?

Yeah, someone want to explain how Harry and Tom can sip holographic champagne while Janeway can't get any coffee?

It's been explained before that the holodeck system runs off a different power grid, not compatable with the ships other systems, I thought you knew that. ?;)

I know that's the rationale given by the producers and writers, but it's kind of goofy reasoning. Star Trek frequently depicts Starfleet ships as being able to transfer power from one system to another system when needed.

The holodecks use forcefields and replicators (which are based on transporter technology). The producers would have us believe that the crew couldn't run an extension cord from the holodeck because a power supply that feeds power to the replicators in the holodeck cannot power replicators elsewhere in the ship.

Even if we accept that nonsense, how is it that the crew can use an alien cannon or even install Borg technology on the ship and not be able to convert the energy from the holodeck into something that the rest of the ship can use?

I understand what the producers were doing. They wanted to have it both ways - they wanted to depict the ship as being low on power but they didn't want to give up holodecks in their stories. However, in their attempt to have it both ways they had to employ some silly logic.

Hi Founder, doesn't seem like your around much these days, I take it your on other boards?



I never liked the idea that Voyager's systems were not fully compatible, but it is explainable. TNG showed that the holodecks were shut down to conserve power, perhaps a dedicated power system using a different "type" of power allowed the holodecks to work better (for various reasons) or indeed be safer, it would also never be a drain on main power. We could also take into account the Bio Neural Gel Packs, maybe they were affected somehow.

To be fair though, there were a few times that alien technology was not compatible with Voyager, and it cost the crew a faster way home.

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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 7:03 pm

Quote (captbates @ Oct. 25 2009, 7:31 pm)
Quote (voyfan99 @ Oct. 25 2009, 2:25 am)
Quote (brcarthey @ Oct. 24 2009, 9:53 pm)
^i just read an interview where duchovny said he is interested in doing a 3rd x-files movie especially if it's one that deals with some of the earlier ufo themes of the early seasons.

I'd actually like to see something with William, the super soldiers, and the date that Mulder saw in The Truth...a final, epic, battle with the aliens

Fringe is doing something similar to that right now, and it is fast establishing itself as a true successor to the X-Files, another reason why Mulder and Scully should hang up their badges.

Mulder and Scully were why I liked x-files, the paranormal, aliens and monster of the week would be so ho hum with out the interaction and the chemistry of MSR, IMO, I have never seen Fringe

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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 7:09 pm

Quote (voyfan99 @ Oct. 26 2009, 12:03 am)
Quote (captbates @ Oct. 25 2009, 7:31 pm)
Quote (voyfan99 @ Oct. 25 2009, 2:25 am)
Quote (brcarthey @ Oct. 24 2009, 9:53 pm)
^i just read an interview where duchovny said he is interested in doing a 3rd x-files movie especially if it's one that deals with some of the earlier ufo themes of the early seasons.

I'd actually like to see something with William, the super soldiers, and the date that Mulder saw in The Truth...a final, epic, battle with the aliens

Fringe is doing something similar to that right now, and it is fast establishing itself as a true successor to the X-Files, another reason why Mulder and Scully should hang up their badges.

Mulder and Scully were why I liked x-files, the paranormal, aliens and monster of the week would be so ho hum with out the interaction and the chemistry of MSR, IMO, I have never seen Fringe

Fringe is very good, similar to the X-Files in many ways but doesn't copy it. You should check it out from the start, season 2 is showing now, and Nimoy is a guest star.

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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 7:24 pm

Quote (captbates @ Oct. 26 2009, 6:53 pm)
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Quote (TheFounder @ Oct. 15 2009, 9:18 pm)
Is this the episode where Janeway couldn't replicate a cup of coffee because the ship was low on power and then she goes to fire up the holodeck?

Yeah, someone want to explain how Harry and Tom can sip holographic champagne while Janeway can't get any coffee?

It's been explained before that the holodeck system runs off a different power grid, not compatable with the ships other systems, I thought you knew that. ?;)

I know that's the rationale given by the producers and writers, but it's kind of goofy reasoning. Star Trek frequently depicts Starfleet ships as being able to transfer power from one system to another system when needed.

The holodecks use forcefields and replicators (which are based on transporter technology). The producers would have us believe that the crew couldn't run an extension cord from the holodeck because a power supply that feeds power to the replicators in the holodeck cannot power replicators elsewhere in the ship.

Even if we accept that nonsense, how is it that the crew can use an alien cannon or even install Borg technology on the ship and not be able to convert the energy from the holodeck into something that the rest of the ship can use?

I understand what the producers were doing. They wanted to have it both ways - they wanted to depict the ship as being low on power but they didn't want to give up holodecks in their stories. However, in their attempt to have it both ways they had to employ some silly logic.

Hi Founder, doesn't seem like your around much these days, I take it your on other boards?



I never liked the idea that Voyager's systems were not fully compatible, but it is explainable. TNG showed that the holodecks were shut down to conserve power, perhaps a dedicated power system using a different "type" of power allowed the holodecks to work better (for various reasons) or indeed be safer, it would also never be a drain on main power. We could also take into account the Bio Neural Gel Packs, maybe they were affected somehow.

To be fair though, there were a few times that alien technology was not compatible with Voyager, and it cost the crew a faster way home.

Didn't "Basics" show that pulling power from the holodeck affects the Doctor?   So I would assume diverting that power to other parts of the ship would make him go off line.  Even the mobile emitter has to be recharged, right?

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Report this Oct. 26 2009, 11:40 pm

Quote (TheFounder @ Oct. 25 2009, 1:50 am)
Quote (captbates @ Oct. 21 2009, 3:02 pm)
Quote (SLagonia @ Oct. 15 2009, 11:30 pm)
Quote (TheFounder @ Oct. 15 2009, 9:18 pm)
Is this the episode where Janeway couldn't replicate a cup of coffee because the ship was low on power and then she goes to fire up the holodeck?

Yeah, someone want to explain how Harry and Tom can sip holographic champagne while Janeway can't get any coffee?

It's been explained before that the holodeck system runs off a different power grid, not compatable with the ships other systems, I thought you knew that. ?;)

I know that's the rationale given by the producers and writers, but it's kind of goofy reasoning. Star Trek frequently depicts Starfleet ships as being able to transfer power from one system to another system when needed.

The holodecks use forcefields and replicators (which are based on transporter technology). The producers would have us believe that the crew couldn't run an extension cord from the holodeck because a power supply that feeds power to the replicators in the holodeck cannot power replicators elsewhere in the ship.

Even if we accept that nonsense, how is it that the crew can use an alien cannon or even install Borg technology on the ship and not be able to convert the energy from the holodeck into something that the rest of the ship can use?

I understand what the producers were doing. They wanted to have it both ways - they wanted to depict the ship as being low on power but they didn't want to give up holodecks in their stories. However, in their attempt to have it both ways they had to employ some silly logic.

Yeah, alien technology has no problem adapting to the ship, but the ship can't even work with itself?

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